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To: MarMema
There are striking similarities among the stroller-suiciders, the killers of the children at Beslan, and those lovely "religious" scum who pray as they cut off the heads of someone completely innocent because some state has not met their demands.

Evil is as evil does.

Yes ... and you should think long and hard about this.

Suicide -- on its face -- is an irrational act. This is something into which a person is conditioned. You can argue that Islam has long been militant, bloody and even the source of our word for "assassin" (a practice which we now regard as lawful, by the way, thanks to just one of the Executive Branchs new post-9/11 powers). But I don't think you can argue that Muslims -- particularly today -- are uniformly "evil" or even "violent".

That's one reason I need to be posting some Claire Sterling and more Christopher Story (not to mention any of a slew of excerpts from my communism shelves) to school you rather than allow you and Dennis to continue in the utterly deluded belief that (1) I do not find ABSOLUTELY UNTENABLE ANY ACT OF TERROR COMMITTED BY ANY PARTY ON ANY ACCOUNT or (2) have any sympathy for Illumined Islam despite a very real respect for the singlehanded way the Muslims have refused to capitulate (except by force) to the strongarming, bribing and extorting by the US and UN where certain population control policies are concerned.

That's a very real thing, MarMema. I'd like to be able to jump up and down over the fact that I found a little wooden card table of pro-life literature in a dark corner of the VAST Cathedral of Christ our Savior in Moscow but the fact is that I saw more propaganda in that respect courtesy of the State on Metro cars which appeared to be a part of the push to try in vain to get women to breed with or without husbands.

I get in trouble all the time on the libertarian board for harping on abortion but I take a very dim view, sorry, of any faith or nation who pretends an interest in "the children" while offing over a million a year by dismemberment, scalding or a pair of scissors to the skull in the name of "women's health".

Things simply are NOT always what they seem and -- hope I don't step on your toes here, but -- it's those former Soviets still in power who are truly masters of the art of deception.

We agree on the important things. And know that I too probably would have no patience whatsoever for a CrimethINc sort like Rachel. Even so, I don't think she deserved to be bulldozed and whether or not she was at the service of those whose intentions were truly somehow malevolent, I don't think flag-burning is a capital offense.

I cannot tell you how sickening it is to see the bulldozer used over and over and over around here as some kind of humor graphic. There will be hell to pay for such egregious encouragement of brutal inhumanity ... however rightly condemned the unarmed innocent killed is judged to be by those a world away in the comfort of their homes hooked to 24-hour Feeds.

Surely -- as Christians who share in that same tradition wherein Abraham haggled with God himself over the good men he feared would be killed as part of obliterating the abomination that was Sodom -- we need keep our essential moral perspective regardless our political leanings or pet conspiracy theories.

621 posted on 09/23/2004 7:08:39 PM PDT by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: Askel5
I think Rachel made her bed. I recall that her "friends" seemed to be more eager to take a thousand pictures of her than to offer her comfort.

Those people were no different than the ones making videos today while they behead people.

Don't ask me to have compassion for those who support and collect for terrorists.

Instead I recall the woman who was near the suicide bomber and missing an arm and lay there listening to her infant in a stroller scream from being burned. But she could not get up and go comfort her own child.

624 posted on 09/23/2004 7:32:04 PM PDT by MarMema (Sharon is my hero)
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