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CBS News on defensive as fresh revelations emerge on Bush report
Yahoo News ^ | 9/21/04 | AFP

Posted on 09/21/2004 5:37:42 PM PDT by kattracks

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To: IrishGOP

If any one with one ounce of brains believes lockhart, I've got some ocean front property in Death Valley to sell them.


41 posted on 09/21/2004 7:13:41 PM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: kattracks
My Version

I was reported in another thread here that some Kerry campaign literature from April 2004 had some verbatum quotes from one of the forged memos. Given this...

The Kerry had the documents in April.
The Kerry campaign decided to use them in an after-the-RNC hit piece.
The Kerry campaign did not want the documents to come from the Kerry campaign.
Someone in the Kerry campaign saw Burkett on Hardball and decided he could be duped into delivering the documents to the media.
At this point things proceed exactly as Burkett describes: Phone call from Lucy, mystery man delivers documents with instruction to copy and destroy.
Burkett tries to contact the Kerry campaign but is rebuffed. The campaign is trying to keep him out of contact so that no one will tie him to them.
Rather says that CBS got a tip that Burkett has the documents. He claims CBS went to Burkett for the documents.
Burkett sees this as his opportunity to contact the Kerry Campaign. He makes a deal with CBS. He gives them the documents and CBS puts him in contact with someone higher up in the campaign.
The campaign contact calls Burkett for a very short conversation - not about the documents.

42 posted on 09/21/2004 7:15:14 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Remember: Benedict Arnold was a "war hero," too.)
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To: Jeff Gordon

There was a news story on TV or newspaper about a Colonel in the National Guard who said that George Bush did not get special treatment to get into the guards. I need a link.


43 posted on 09/21/2004 7:17:23 PM PDT by vanburen
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To: All
Here's a question I'd love an answer to. Anyone out there feel free to take a stab.

I believe the DNC released the "Fortunate Son" video the day after the 60 Minutes memo story. In the video, they use footage from the 60 Minutes interview. I've used Flash many times so I know it would not be difficult to add the 60 Minutes footage at the last minute, but even then the DNC would need to get permission from CBS to use the footage.

On the day that the web video was released, Tom Harkin ran to a camera and used the fake docs as proof that the President was AWOL from the National Guard.

Apologies in advance if this has already been brought up, but does the timing of the web video and the use of the 60 Minutes material in the video not make it difficult to believe that the Kerry campaign did not know about the fake docs before the airing of the 60 Minutes story? I know the DNC referenced similar charges in April.

I just think that the timing of the "Fortunate Son" video, and its content, is the smoking gun. They keep claiming that they didn't know anything about the docs.
44 posted on 09/21/2004 7:17:43 PM PDT by True_wesT
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To: rustbucket
CBS news segment on radio said the Bush appeared before the UN today and that there was NO applause during his speech.

Same story on ABC radio news following Rush today.

45 posted on 09/21/2004 7:19:36 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: kattracks
"There's nothing to this story," Lockhart said.'

As the story goes Joey, your ass sucks buttermilk.

46 posted on 09/21/2004 7:19:48 PM PDT by fuzzthatwuz (To question John Kerry is to question his patriotism)
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To: kattracks

Rush has the tight track on this. Neither Blather nor CBS have indicated any anger toward Bill Burkett, a proven liar who has admitted that he deliberately lied to them on Memogate. That suggests (and I believe it) that Blather and CBS know the actual source of the forged memos and are desperately trying to conceal the actual perpetrator of this scandal.

This leaves one to two conclusions:

1) The perpetrator was Rather daughter, Robin (which I doubt), or
2) The perpetrator is someone in the Kerry campaign. My suspicion is James Carville; it is his type of stunt.


47 posted on 09/21/2004 7:20:31 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: kattracks
Why would Lockhart talk to Burkett about the Swiftboat Vets? Burkett is not a Swiftboat vet. I thought only Swiftboat vets who served on Kerry's boat while Kerry was in command were allowed to express an opinion on that subject.
48 posted on 09/21/2004 7:26:42 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: DustyMoment

Even if no one in the Kerry campaign was involved in creating the documents, they're still culpable. Follow me on this one.

Forging the signature of an officer on a fake document is a Federal crime. Using the document to influence an election, which both CBS and the DNC (with their Fortunate Son video) did, is a Federal crime.

Make no mistake that if the tables were turned and the RNC or the Swift Vets used such a doc, the press would be making exactly this connection. This story is much more serious than the MSM seems to indicate. They keep talking about whether or not Rather is discredited. That is not the issue.


49 posted on 09/21/2004 7:31:14 PM PDT by True_wesT
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To: DustyMoment
BINGO! That is precisely what is happening. Put another way, why in the world isn't SeeBS suing Burkett, who has supposedly, single-handedly trashed SeeBS's reputation for the foreseeable future? If this were genuine, if I were SeeBS, I'd sure want MY pound of flesh!

And what lawyer in his right mind thinks that Burkett has a snowball's chance in hell of prevailing in his law suit? Hmmm...Could it possibly be that this law suit is just cover, to try and put a lid on the whole affair - at least until November? "I'm sorry, we can't talk about that while the matter is in litigation..."

50 posted on 09/21/2004 7:46:04 PM PDT by Nevermore (Mad as Zell)
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To: True_wesT

I have no doubt that the Kerry campaign is up to their elitist, snobby butts in this. That's why I named Carville. It reeks of his thought processes and hatred of Bush. I believe that he is Mr. Big who came up with the plan because this scandal could have broken anytime BEFORE Carville, Begala and Lockhart joined the Kerry campaign.

But it didn't. And who was the Kerry insider who spoke with Bill Burkett? Why none other than Joe Lockhart!!

A coincidence? I think not.


51 posted on 09/21/2004 7:48:33 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: Colofornian
LOL

I was going to suggest that you change the work "verbal" with the synonym "oral"... But it does not need to be said.

52 posted on 09/21/2004 7:50:20 PM PDT by DrDavid (I'd Rather Not)
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To: conshack
I've got a feeling that even the MSM is going to persue this.

If the MSM feels that Kerry is beyond rescue, they will certainly keep going.

53 posted on 09/21/2004 7:52:58 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: rustbucket
I recall a recent comment to the effect that CBS is really a 527. Maybe this is not so far-fetched.
How hard would it be to have CBS news classified as a 527, at least as of the TANG memo story?
Someone would have to warn all those corporations that made "contributions" to CBS news since that they might be subject to fines, and they should ask for their money back.
How many signatures would it take on a petition to the FEC?
54 posted on 09/21/2004 8:01:31 PM PDT by Ragnar54
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To: kattracks
Viacom owner of CBS: MTV Running Ad Saying Kids Will Be Drafted!!"








55 posted on 09/21/2004 8:05:34 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (What did Dan Rather know, and when did he know it?)
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To: kattracks

Typical liberal Bush hater who will so anything to smear him.

56 posted on 09/21/2004 8:08:36 PM PDT by The Bandit
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To: kattracks

Why is CBS still using the public airways?


57 posted on 09/21/2004 8:10:15 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: McGavin999

I asked the FCC about that and received the following reply:

"Although the FCC licenses broadcast stations, we have virtually no
control over the content of what they broadcast. "


58 posted on 09/21/2004 8:16:08 PM PDT by ladyjane
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