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CBS backs off Guard story (Burkett now maintains source was Lucy Ramirez. LOL)

Posted on 09/20/2004 10:25:03 PM PDT by Bushruffneck

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To: wildwood

freakin' hilarious!


241 posted on 09/21/2004 8:56:19 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: handy

I posted on this FR thread (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1222128/posts?q=1&&page=224#224):

"Burkett's own doubts about the authenticity of the memos and his inability to supply evidence to show that Ramirez exists also raise questions about his credibility.

Lucy Ramirez = Robin Rather???



Is the name "Rather" a nom de guerre for Ramirez?

Martin Sheen, Charlie Sheen, and Emilio Estavez are all from the same family. Martin Sheen changed his hispanic surname to an Americanized stagename. His son changed his real name to the same stagename of Sheen. Emilio retained his original hispanic surname for stage.

What does Rather's bio say?

*OR*

If Rather is Dan's true last name, is there a Ramirez in the family tree? There are Texans that come from old tejano families that changed the name in the 19th or 20th century because of bias. BTW, tejanos are very proud and very different from recent immigrants."


242 posted on 09/21/2004 8:56:32 AM PDT by sully777 (Our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
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To: DC Bound
She's A BABE!!!!!!

Close...

She starred in the movie Babe...
243 posted on 09/21/2004 9:24:42 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: FairOpinion

""Conn, the Texas Guard friend Burkett initially identified as the source of the documents, denied any connection in an e-mail exchange with USA TODAY. He wrote: "Know absolutely nothing about the Killian memos."




I haven't read this whole thread yet, but if I'm not mistaken, Conn was also the name Burkett gave back in 1997 when he used this guy to verify the "cleansing of Bush's Guard records." This is a surprise if he used this same man again since he denied ever hearing a conversation about cleansing Bush's records.


244 posted on 09/21/2004 9:31:30 AM PDT by cwb (John Kerry: Still attacking Vietnam Vets after 35 years.)
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To: WashingtonSource

From the Boston Globe:

"...Retired Lieutenant Colonel Bill Burkett, who has been pressing his charges in the national news media this week, says he even heard one high-ranking officer issue a 1997 order to sanitize the Bush file, and later saw another officer poring over the records and discovered that some had been discarded.

But a key witness to some of the events described by Burkett has told the Globe that the central elements of his story are false.

George O. Conn, a former chief warrant officer with the Guard and a friend of Burkett's, is the person whom Burkett says led him to the room where the Bush records were being vetted. But Conn says he never saw anyone combing through the Bush file or discarding records.

"I have no recall of that," Conn said. "I have no recall of that whatsoever. None. Zip. Nada." Conn's recollection also undercuts another of Burkett's central allegations: that he overheard Bush's onetime chief of staff, Joe M. Allbaugh, telling a Texas Guard general to make sure there were no embarrassments in the Bush record."


245 posted on 09/21/2004 9:36:39 AM PDT by cwb (John Kerry: Still attacking Vietnam Vets after 35 years.)
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To: WashingtonSource

PS. The Boston Globe story above is from July of this year. Burkett has been using George Conn as his reference for these events since 2002...which he denies. What I don't understand is if these allegations are true, why has Burkett only brought them up in the last couple years, since even according to him, he supposedly heard these things back in 1997?


246 posted on 09/21/2004 9:46:20 AM PDT by cwb (John Kerry: Still attacking Vietnam Vets after 35 years.)
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To: counterpunch

Here are some Lucies. I hope she's the one in the lower right corner :)

http://images.google.com/images?q=%22Lucy%20Ramirez%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&sa=N&tab=wi


247 posted on 09/21/2004 9:54:09 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (Take the first step in the war on terror - defeat John Kerry)
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To: counterpunch
recognized military process expert.

What is MOS number for that?

248 posted on 09/21/2004 10:01:18 AM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: Bushruffneck
Lucy Rameriz


249 posted on 09/21/2004 10:06:56 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: ClintonBeGone
Ace of Spades has found one Lucy Ramirez.

May not be the right one, but she gets praised in the above article by Dem. Congressman Hinojosa Texas-15.

At a time when medical facilities throughout the nation are closing their doors or at least cutting services, Nuestra Clinica continues to grow and touch more lives. The reason for this progress is that Lucy Ramirez knows how to facilitate local and federal partnerships. This groundbreaking for the new San Juan facility is the result of the coordination of funding from two federal agencies, land donated from the city, and assistance from my congressional office...all brought together by Ms. Ramirez. With her unique brand of diplomacy skills and fundraising ability, she could have a great career in politics! But, as you know, we really need her here at the helm of Nuestra Clinica. The address is Pharr Texas which is far from Houston. It's about as far south as you can go in Texas. Probably not the "right" Lucy.

250 posted on 09/21/2004 10:14:54 AM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: ClintonBeGone

Me too. I'd love to see her on the Sunday shows. ;-)


251 posted on 09/21/2004 10:17:12 AM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: NCjim

Mark for later...


252 posted on 09/21/2004 10:22:37 AM PDT by NCjim
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To: biblewonk
Ping. You gotta read this!

This guy Burkett's hatred of Dubya is so intense that it doesn't just make him stupid, it actually sends him into convulsions.

253 posted on 09/21/2004 10:24:38 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: cwb

Who exactly is George Conn?


254 posted on 09/21/2004 10:33:05 AM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free.)
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To: newgeezer

MAN, if this guy knew how to make a bomb, he'd never have bothered with faking the documents. What a nut job. But he has a lot of company. I saw some of em protesting the W ralley the other day.


255 posted on 09/21/2004 10:34:01 AM PDT by biblewonk (Neither was the man created for woman but the woman for the man.)
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To: Bushruffneck

Ok this has G. Gordon Liddy's hands all over it....Lucy is a Cuban...the plan was to dupe Burkett in to giving the Dems the docs and to a news orgainization. Old Dan took the bait....
Wow those crafty Republicans did it again.....


256 posted on 09/21/2004 10:56:50 AM PDT by FlatLandBeer
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To: handy

Yep, I found that one too.


257 posted on 09/21/2004 10:56:54 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (Take the first step in the war on terror - defeat John Kerry)
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To: WashingtonSource

From that article, George O. Conn is a former chief warrant officer with the Guard and a friend of Burkett's..."

Later in the article it states that he is currently a civilian government employee working with the Army in Germany. Other than that, all I know is that he is the same source that Burkett likes to use as a witness to his claims...which Conn keeps denying.


258 posted on 09/21/2004 11:02:56 AM PDT by cwb (John Kerry: Still attacking Vietnam Vets after 35 years.)
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To: cwb

Many thanks. Could George O. Conn be Lucy Ramirez?


259 posted on 09/21/2004 11:09:21 AM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Martin Tell
So "Lucy" is the DNC mole from 2000 who gave the tape of W practicing to the Gore campaign? Wasn't there a criminal investigation out of that?

That would be Yvette Lozano...

260 posted on 09/21/2004 11:10:21 AM PDT by umbagi (When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.)
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