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MY MEETING WITH DAN RATHER (A story of Objectivity in the Face of Pure Evil AND Shoddy Reporting)
Jewish World ^ | April 21, 2002 | Elliot Mathias

Posted on 09/20/2004 5:13:13 PM PDT by Enduring Freedom

MY MEETING WITH DAN RATHER

My recent encounter with CBS News anchor Dan Rather and his producer made me realize that much of the anti-Israel coverage in the media -- which treats Israel with a double-standard unparalleled anywhere else in the world -- is attributable to factors other than anti-Semitism.

I met his CBS producer (Mary Mapes?) at a building in Jerusalem's Jewish Quarter that overlooks the Temple Mount where she wished to film from. We proceeded up to the roof which afforded a masterful view of the centerpiece of the Old City. Sprawled out in front of us was the Temple Mount, the place where the two ancient Jewish Temples stood, and currently the shared location of the Western Wall and the Al-Aqsa Mosque. Behind the Temple Mount is the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives, with the rugged hills of the Judean Desert in the background.

This is the focal point of the entire Arab-Israeli conflict. In fact, Palestinians call the current conflict the "Al-Aqsa Intifada."

As we stood side-by-side taking in the extraordinary view, the producer turned to me and said in a sort of apologetic tone, "You'll have to excuse my ignorance, but what exactly are we looking at?"

My stomach instantly dropped. Maybe she was unsure of a specific building?

"No, what is this entire area we are looking at?"

"The Temple Mount!!" I wanted to scream. "It's the most important spot in the entire region!"

I controlled myself and began my first history lesson to a national news producer.

I controlled myself and began my first history lesson to a national news producer. I explained how the Jewish people built a Temple in this spot 3,000 years ago, and how, after its destruction, a second Temple was built in the exact same location.

I explained how Jesus visited this second Jewish Temple, which stood until the Romans ultimately destroyed it in the first century. I explained how the Muslims came to Jerusalem in the mid-seventh century, soon after the creation of their religion, building the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Golden Dome. I explained to her that the Western Wall is the remaining retaining wall of the second Jewish Temple.

As I went through these historic points, the producer was taking furious notes on her yellow writing pad, trying to record the details of this place so integral to the Arab-Israeli conflict.

A few minutes later, Dan Rather arrived. He climbed the stairs to join us on the roof. As he reached the top stair, he looked out at the view that was spread before him. "Oh, I've been here before," he said. Then, looking at his producer, he quietly asked, "What is this that we're looking at?"

My stomach plummeted again. Not Dan Rather, too?! The expert on world events who is watched by 30 million nightly viewers can't identify the Temple Mount? I knew American viewers were in big trouble.

The producer read the notes on her yellow pad, filling Mr. Rather in on all the details of the place in front of them. During the film shoot, Rather held this same yellow pad of paper in his hand, reading from it on air. So much for in-depth research and media accuracy.

A DEBATE ABOUT TRUTH

After Dan Rather left, I spent some time with his producer, discussing her viewpoints of what was currently happening in Israel. After seeing the tone of her news segment, I was concerned. I began to question her about accuracy in reporting.

Her answer was even more shocking than what I had already observed. "The thing is," she told me, "it is impossible to be objective in this situation. The fact is that there is no objective truth -- neither side is right or wrong."

It's impossible to be objective in this situation. There is no objective truth -- neither side is right or wrong.

"Wait a minute," I asked her. "When a Palestinian straps on a belt of dynamite lined with nails and walks into a pizza shop, blowing up innocent people, that wouldn't be objectively wrong?"

"Of course I would think that is wrong," she answered me. "But the Palestinians believe this is a legitimate form of warfare. And they would say the Israelis are doing the same to them by killing innocent civilians when they retaliate militarily. Who am I to say what is right or wrong? Who am I to say that the Palestinians are wrong in their beliefs?"

"But don't you think there's a difference between a person blowing himself up in a restaurant, and a military that responds by searching for and killing terrorists. Granted that innocent civilians are killed in both circumstances -- but in one situation the innocents are targeted, and in the other situation they are regrettably caught in the line of fire?"

"Well, that's a very Western way of looking at things. You see I'm Christian and American. I see things the way you do as an Israeli -- we have the same moral framework. But the Arabs view things differently, and who's to say that we're right and they're wrong?"

At this point we both realized we weren't going to get any further in the conversation, and we politely thanked each other and parted ways.

CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS

This experience gave me new insight into why so much of the media seems biased against Israel. Not only, as I saw with my own eyes, was even the top echelon some of the media unprepared and lacking knowledge of the basic history and make-up of the conflict, but they also possess an extremely dangerous philosophy -- a belief that there is no objective right and wrong.

The world today is being shaped into two conflicting civilizations. This has been happening minimally for decades, but more probably for centuries, and has now become most evident since September 11. One civilization, led by Judeo-Christian ethics, values life with the utmost sanctity. Individual rights and freedoms, equality of the sexes, and peace amongst nations are pillars upon which this half of the world stands.

One civilization sees the other as a direct threat and is willing to sacrifice its own children to destroy the other.

The other civilization holds very different ideals: the glorification of death and war, totalitarian control of the masses, and oppression of women. The latter civilization sees the former as a direct threat to its way of life and is willing to sacrifice its own children to destroy the other.

This clash of civilizations is being fought on many fronts, including the battlefield. But for most of us non-soldier-types, the war is being fought in the recesses of our own conscience.

Many world leaders, like President Bush and Prime Minister Sharon, have identified this clearly as a fight against evil. But there are others, many of whom are influential in the media, who don't believe that the values of the Western world are "objectively good." Reuters news service refused to call the September 11 attacks "terrorism," finding that even too much of a moral stretch.

This clash calls upon us all to must make a clear choice. Are we confident in our own values and morals? Do we know that they are objectively good and thus worth defending and fighting for?

Unless we can answer these questions with full determination and conviction, we will remain deeply threatened by those who seek to destroy us. Because one thing is certain: The other side has the determination and conviction to carry on their crusade.


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bias; cbs; cbsnews; danrather; evil; marymapes
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To: Socratic

That's BS. This "no objective reality" line is a lot of crap.

I'm sure Mapes et al. have a particular objective view of the KKK, or Hitler, or Big Tobacco execs, or veal ranchers. Or George Bush, for that matter.


21 posted on 09/20/2004 6:05:12 PM PDT by stands2reason (Limousine Liberal--a man who has his cake, eats his cake, and complains that other people have cake.)
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To: Enduring Freedom

Just remember, my fellow Americans who happen to be Jewish, that these are the people who vote Democratic. A vote for Kerry is a vote for the demise of Israel.


22 posted on 09/20/2004 6:22:20 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: AlaskaErik

In the past, it was a misguided shame that any Jewish person would vote for 'Rats.

Now, it is a question of simple rationality.


23 posted on 09/20/2004 6:26:10 PM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Socialism Is the Enemy of Mankind, Democrats Its Traveling Salesmen)
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To: stands2reason

Rather is not only delusional, his desire for revenge is PALPABLE.

If he is not removed, he will only raise the ante later.

DESTROY HIM NOW.


24 posted on 09/20/2004 7:23:02 PM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Socialism Is the Enemy of Mankind, Democrats Its Traveling Salesmen)
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To: wisconsinconservative

save for later


25 posted on 09/20/2004 8:06:57 PM PDT by wisconsinconservative ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: Enduring Freedom

You can't win a war if you don't believe you are right, and that your truth is worth dying for.

The liberals should never be trusted with the defense of the nation.


26 posted on 09/20/2004 8:12:27 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: Enduring Freedom
Mary Mapes: "You see I'm Christian and American."

Cicero: Permit me to doubt it.

27 posted on 09/20/2004 8:16:30 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Enduring Freedom

I have been to Israel. The description of the Temple Mount very vividly resonates in my mind as everything described I know about. I visited the mosques, walked the ramparts of the wall surrounding the old city of Jerusalem. I visited the wailing wall. I know exactly where the cemetary is on the Mount of Olives. I know more about basic facts on this than Dan or Mary and in socioeconomic terms I am just an average joe. And they accuse President Bush of being dumb and incurious?! No wonder these idiots got scooped by Freepers.


28 posted on 09/20/2004 8:32:40 PM PDT by xp38
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To: patriciaruth

Mary appears to have a legacy of undermining the Free World.


29 posted on 09/22/2004 4:47:26 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Socialism Is the Enemy of Mankind, Democrats Its Traveling Salesmen)
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To: Enduring Freedom
There is a clash of civilizations, and Western Civilization is also bent on a suicidal course (as a civilization).

A decent summary of this, and how liberalism represents the suicidal aspect of Western civ, is James Burnham's "Suicide of the West." It is an easy read. I don't agree with everything in the book, but it's general premise is striking. The book was published in the 1970's and is now out of print. I obtained a used one via Amazon.

30 posted on 09/22/2004 4:52:59 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

You know, the only hope in America rests with the Bush administration.

Check out the UN speech video.

Bush delivers the speech of the millennium to the weasels of the international community:

Go to http://www.cspan.org

Or click right here (you'll need Real Player)

http://switchboard.real.com/player/email.html?PV=6.0.12&&title=President%20Bush%20Speaks%20at%20the%20United%20Nations&link=rtsp%3A%2F%2Fcspanrm.fplive.net%2Fcspan%2Fproject%2Firaq%2Firaq092104%5Fbush.rm%3Fmode%3Dcompact


31 posted on 09/22/2004 5:07:56 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Socialism Is the Enemy of Mankind, Democrats Its Traveling Salesmen)
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To: patriciaruth

The Muslims have adopted the most corrosive tactics of the other Socialist "victims" of America.

The strategies of radicalized Black America, Women's groups, Gays & Lesbians, and Communists have combined in the most fundamental assault on Western values in the history of the world.

The Muslims concentrate enormous effort on:

Intimidating and manipulating the Liberal world press;
Claiming victim status and discrimination;
Blaming others for their problems;
Exploiting the double standard that permits them to insult and attack with impugnity while accusing their Western enemy of same;
Aligning themselves with the penetrating propaganda mills of Hollywood;
Pirating wealth from scared nation states, corporations and guilt-ridden Liberal benefactors;
Influencing political elections with strategic attacks.

There is but one hope.

President George W. Bush.


32 posted on 09/22/2004 5:18:42 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Socialism Is the Enemy of Mankind, Democrats Its Traveling Salesmen)
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To: Enduring Freedom

If the issue were homosexuality or affirmative action, these idiots would suddenly become "objective" and no one has to guess on what side they would land.


33 posted on 09/22/2004 5:34:46 AM PDT by monocle
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To: Enduring Freedom

We still have a few Southerners who think history and God cared more about their desire for independence from the moral dictates of the North than for the slaves here and around the world that an entact America was necessary to free.

Besides, we had to keep the South. Without the Southerners we wouldn't have been able to win WWII, or the current war on terror. I have deep respect for the patriotism and fighting ability of Southerners.


34 posted on 09/22/2004 5:41:58 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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