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1 posted on 09/20/2004 3:42:41 PM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick

Who did Burkett get the documents from??? Gee Dan, now there's a story for ya.


2 posted on 09/20/2004 3:43:49 PM PDT by Endeavor
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I shed a tear, NOT!! Pointing fingers at each, just what I expected .. now where we do go .. Dan is over -- stick it with a fork ...serve to the viewers


3 posted on 09/20/2004 3:44:08 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (Ticked OFF in the heartland.)
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To: Former Military Chick
BREAKING: As I was walking into a Kinko yesterday - Dan Rather was just leaving. This note fell out of his pocket.

Last week, after we got caught lying amid increasing questions about the fake authenticity of documents used to fabricate in support of a 60 MINUTES WEDNESDAY story about President Bush's time in the Texas Air National Guard, CBS News vowed to find someone to blame for re-examine the documents in question—and their source—vigorously. And we promised that we would let the American public know what this examination turned up, whatever the outcome if we can't lie our way out of this .

Now, after extensive attempts to cover this up by acting like we're doing additional interviews, I no longer have the confidence anyone is going to believe these fakes in these documents that would allow us to continue vouching for them journalistically. I find we have got caught been misled on the key question of how our source for the documents came into possession of these papers from the DNC. That, combined with some of the questions that have been raised in public and in the press, leads me to a point where—if I knew then what I know now—I would not have I would have come up with better fakes. gone ahead with the story as it was aired, and I certainly will use professional forgers next time would not have used the documents in question.

But we did use the documents. We made a got caught mistake in judgment, and for that I am sorry. It was an error that was made, however, in good faith and in the spirit of lying trying to carry on a CBS News tradition of presenting clever lies investigative reporting without fear being exposed by the liberal media. or favoritism.

Please know that nothing is more important to us than DNC's people's trust in our ability to fool the masses. and our commitment to trick the public. report fairly and truthfully.

Note: act like a victim!

4 posted on 09/20/2004 3:44:16 PM PDT by ibme
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To: Former Military Chick
Lesson No. 1 in Dan Rather School Of Fraudulent Journalism




6 posted on 09/20/2004 3:45:14 PM PDT by sinclair (If you don't stop and think, then it doesn't matter whether you are a genius or a moron.)
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To: Former Military Chick

They both sat there and LIED through their TEETH tonight. Still NO apology to President Bush for besmirching his character.


8 posted on 09/20/2004 3:46:23 PM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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The network did not say the memoranda — purportedly written by one of Mr. Bush's National Guard commanders — were forgeries.

There's got to be some reason that CBS won't admit these are forgeries. I suspect some dark or sinister motives.

9 posted on 09/20/2004 3:46:33 PM PDT by 68skylark
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It's pretty obvious that SeeBS is doing a legal tap dance here to keep from
admitting that the memos are forgeries, so they don't have to out the source.
They aren't going to get away with it................are they?
10 posted on 09/20/2004 3:47:02 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Near total, complete vindication for what FReepers have been saying all along. Kudos to all those on this fine forum who first called CBS and Mr. Blather on this!


12 posted on 09/20/2004 3:47:57 PM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("I had no shoes and I complained, until I saw a man who had no feet.")
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After a lull of a few days, the DUmmies are back again commenting on Memogate. For your enjoyment, here is another installment of the DUmmie FUnnies in all their HILARIOUS paranoia. My own comments are in the [brackets].

the issue is not CBS. It was who was responsible for trying to screw up this election with nationally broadcast fraudulent documents that ultimately --- undercut --- legitimate arguments against *'s war record. Think who really benefits from this farce. It must have been planned to break open just like it did.

[Ah yes! Poor little Dan Rather became entangled in a devious KARL ROVE plot.]

The truth remains that FratBoy was AWOL at the very least, and most probably a deserter, during a period of time when Americans were still dying in Vietnam. That is IRREFUTABLE. Period.

[YUP! It's IRREFUTABLE and I bet you have the forged documents to prove it.]

As I said in the other thread... It is going to come out that Max Clelan gave the docs to CBS...What are we going to say then?

[Need you ask? Just say what you have been saying....KARL ROVE forged those docs as part of a devious ROVIAN plot to discredit Kerry.]

Max Cleland is the triple amputee former Senator from Georgia who is working for the DNC now. It is being reported that Bill Burkett told a group of Texas Democrats in a mailing list that he had given Max documents to counter-attack the Swift Liars. It is implied that he is the "unimpeachable" source from CBS. CBS then simply got the documents from Burkett for sure, but it was Cleland who gave it credibility for CBS to run with it...so the story goes

[I detect a hint of rationality from this DUmmie. For that he MUST be banned from the DUmmie board!]

CBS has been working on this story for five years... ...are you trying to tell me or anyone else that CBS didn't already have these documents and more "unimpeachable sources" than just Max Cleland? Give me a break. I seem to also recall that Rather stated that the CBS lawyers were all over the documentation before they would allow it to go on the air.

[And yet that whole effort was destroyed in just a few minutes by a few pajama clad bloggers.]

No...I'm just wondering what the response will be if Cleland is at least one "unimpeachable source." It seems like this could be devastating if it starts getting coverage...or worse if it is provable.

[Hee! Hee!]

Rather screwed the pooch on this one. And he hurt Kerry. This took up WAY too much time and drowned out way too much of Kerry's message. The sooner Rather admits he was conned, the sooner we can get back to Kerry getting his message (jobs, health care, end of the war) out there.

[And the pooch Dan Rather screwed was a French Poodle.]

Your man Rather is an idiot who got duped. I hope CBS fires his sorry ass. Thanks to his incomptence, it will now look to some that the media can't be trusted to report anything negative about Bush; that if they do say something negative, it's because they have a vendetta. If this was a Rove trap, that moron Rather walked RIGHT into it. He totally ruined CBS' credibility in reporting on Bush's (non)service record.

[So somehow it is Karl Rove's fault that Rather is a biased jerk?]

Excuse me, but CBS backed Rather's report and employed four.... ...different lawyers to ensure that the facts checked out. They're not going to fire Rather because Rather will break their balls in court. You can bet your bottom dollar that Rather understands the phrase "CYA documentation"...and you can also bet that Rather knows where a lot of bodies are buried.

[The just don't come any better in the art of blackmail than Dan Rather.]

The massive stupidity of CBS. And Repugs are already floating around that the DNC had a hand in this, if so.......I'm almost afraid to imagine.

[Close your eyes and IMAGINE you are in a faraway place.]

This will help Kerry in a big way, I think. A real issue here is censorship and intimidation of American media. THAT is extremely important. This thing has not finished playing out yet.

[Correct. It hasn't played out yet. And dream on about it helping Kerry my naive little DUmmie.]

EVERYTHING going on, except this one issue, makes Frat Boy look bad. But NOOOO, CBS had to drag this out, and focus on the ONE thing that makes Bush look better?!?!?! You know all the Repugs were all, "Whew, close one, Thank God It's Fraudulent!" I wouldn't be surprised if TGIF was now a WH mantra. This is going to be an even steeper uphill battle now. And it's all thanks to CBS and those of you who encouraged CBS to "stand their ground." I hope it was worth it, I hope the feeding frenzy over the TANG documents was worth possibly costing us the election.

[Poor little frustrated DUmmie. Better take your Meds little frustrated DUmmie. Control your anger little frustrated DUmmie. But don't stop doing your Little Frustrated DUmmie act. It's funnier than a puppet show!]

Burkett is trying to pass blame and apparently is a coward for not owning up to his actions.

[SNIFF! And to think that just a week ago Burkett was a hero to all you DUmmies. Oh how the (not so) might have fallen!]

Thanks a lot, Burkett you f*cking idiot..... I imagine Rove is sending him a "Thank you" card as we speak.

["Dear Bill Burkett---Thank you for falling prey to my intricate ROVIAN plot and sucking in CBS News, Dan Rather, and almost all DUmmies. Your stupidity has been enormously helpful and will ensure the defeat of John Kerry. As an expression of our gratitude permit me to send you an invitation to President Bush's Inaugural Ball this January. Sincerely yours---Karl (Rovian Plotter) Rove."]

Damn CBS! How could they cave in like that? They should have stayed strong! I feel betrayed!

[Now we know why you are called DUmmies.]

14 posted on 09/20/2004 3:48:14 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (What's the Forgery, Dan!!!???)
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To: Former Military Chick

The fallguy has been found.

The coverup is almost complete.

Who in the media will pursue the list of 20 questions to CBS posted on ratherbiased.com?


19 posted on 09/20/2004 3:49:14 PM PDT by The Real Eddie01 (John Kerry is Flakier than a Crisco Pie)
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Dan's seems to throw the allegations out yet once again, only this time with the disclaimer to only disregard the documents, not the accusations!


20 posted on 09/20/2004 3:49:25 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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In an email revealed last week, Burkett said he had contacted the Kerry campaign but received no response.

(C)BS spins for Kerry again. Burkett didn't initially get a response, but after plowing through the "flunkies", he finally got in touch with Max Cleland.

It's obvious the Kerry campaign knew about this. Even to the point of generating its "Fortunate Son" message around it.

What did Kerry know? And when did he know it?

21 posted on 09/20/2004 3:49:41 PM PDT by narby (Kerry - The great whiner)
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The CBS documents suggested that Mr. Bush had disobeyed a direct order to attend the physical, and that there were other lapses in his performance. One memo also indicated that powerful allies of the Bush family were pressuring the guard to "sugar coat" any investigation of Lt. Bush's service.

Even though the admit the documents are wrong, they're still repeating the allegations from the memos!

I gotta give credit to these people -- they never give up!

22 posted on 09/20/2004 3:49:48 PM PDT by 68skylark
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Threat of Boycott to CBS' advertisers is working.
Dan says he's sorry, everybody forgives him?
Dan keeps job.
Now Bill O'Reilly might even get a little tougher.
No job opening for O'Reilly.

To forgive is to tolerate!!!
Dan must go.


23 posted on 09/20/2004 3:50:08 PM PDT by lyingisbetter ("Let's wait Kerry" or Let's go Bush")
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Question.......Why did CBS and DAN goto to HIM?!?!?!?!?!?


24 posted on 09/20/2004 3:50:19 PM PDT by mr lawson
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Did anyone else notice this?

"Mr. Bush maintains that..."

On Saturday, a White House official said Mr. Bush has reviewed ...

Isn't the correct form "President Bush?" Have I been missing this all along?

Now that is just petty, petty, petty.
26 posted on 09/20/2004 3:51:06 PM PDT by ubu (puncturer of balloons!)
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We made a mistake in judgment, and for that I am sorry," Rather added

What about the part where Rather claimed "Right Wing zealots" were discrediting the memo??? That was no mistake. That was partisan politics.

30 posted on 09/20/2004 3:53:14 PM PDT by pfflier
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Additional reporting on the documents will air on Monday's CBS Evening News...

To an audience of none?

33 posted on 09/20/2004 3:54:14 PM PDT by rickmichaels (God Bless America, Land That I Love)
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Rather and Burkett were almost as good as Clinton, "I did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinskey." They colluded to defray the potential damage and I don't believe a darn word they said. There are bigger fish to fry and these two bumbling idiots tried to deflect the obvious. Both needs to be in jail. I will not listen to his next apology because there's a whole line of them coming up. I'm done with anything to do with CBS.


34 posted on 09/20/2004 3:55:23 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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What utter BS! So the story is they got them from Burkett who claimed it got them from someone else. So the source of the document is who? Taking it at face value, assuming that everyone is telling the truth, CBS has shamed itself because it relied on a document without talking to the actual source of the document. Burkett was no more relevant (if CBS is to be believed) than the postman who might deliver a document in the mail. Once again, since he is not the document's source (if CBS and Burkett are to be believed) then all he can do is vouch for the character of the person who GAVE him the document. But how can CBS rely the document without interviewing the person who delivered it to Burkett?

And what's all this BS about "unimpeachable sources" that Rather was spewing last week? Even if that epithet would apply to Burkett (which it DOESN'T) he is at best an unimpeachable source for the source, but not for the story itself.

Of course now that Burkett is a proven liar, why should one trust what he says about ANYTHING? And now that Rather is a proven liar for what he reported about his sources, what he should he be trusted either?

37 posted on 09/20/2004 3:57:39 PM PDT by PMCarey
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