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Governor vows no talks if teachers go on strike
The Courier-Journal | 9/20/2004 | Nancy C. Rodriguez

Posted on 09/20/2004 9:49:21 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat

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To: DameAutour

Class size can make a difference because we can catch those falling behind before they get frustrated and give up.

But beyond all of that, parental involvement is more influential than any teacher will ever be.


141 posted on 09/20/2004 1:37:08 PM PDT by benson106
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To: benson106
If I can't cut it, and you don't think I am the best when you are paying me to be the best, then get rid of me and I will have no problem with that.

Unfortunately, your union makes that impossible in most cases.

142 posted on 09/20/2004 1:39:37 PM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden, it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: John D

My niece and nephew go to school in GA. Yes, the school years starts at the beginning of August and goes til June. But they get a week off in September (they just came for a visit) 3 weeks at Christmas, and I believe a 2 week spring break. Take those out and you end up with about a 9 month school year like everyone else.


143 posted on 09/20/2004 1:55:05 PM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden, it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: benson106

Try getting health care without union involvement. Give Blue Cross a call. I'll bet they beat your union deal


144 posted on 09/20/2004 1:57:18 PM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden, it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: benson106
because lower class sizes, especially in the first 3 grades, allows us to catch those who would fall between the cracks. It is proven to work.

Another reason why homeschooling is the best choice for me. And before you freak out at me, we own our own business and because we are very small, must insure as individuals. I know our health care was not nearly as high as what you quoted. We live in one of the top districts in Missouri and still choose not to send our kids there, although I still have to pay for the services of which I do not avail myself. So I find it incredibly hard to have sympathy on you.

145 posted on 09/20/2004 2:00:28 PM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden, it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: benson106
But don't attack me for wanting more for my family.

We all want more for our families. Don't you get that?? The trouble with what you are saying is that you want ME to foot the bill so you can have more.

146 posted on 09/20/2004 2:03:51 PM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden, it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: Dec31,1999
Plus you get all those special "educators' deductions. I see that you are paying the family rate for your medical insurance, so you have those deductions as well. How much federal tax did you pay last year?

My guess is that it's close to zero on 38K. Yet you will participate in an illegal strike for what, $3000? Doesn't make sense.

Rather you should get a summer job, which could easily handle that amount.

I suggest you bring this up at the next union meeting. I'm sure all of the members will see the logic in my proposal and thank you for helping them see the light.

You could explain to them how the working poor, especially women and minorities, will be hit hardest by the tax increases required.

147 posted on 09/20/2004 2:18:01 PM PDT by Dec31,1999 (www.protestwarrior.com)
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To: benson106
Can you afford $920 a month for health insurance when my incredibly high salary is $38,000.

Your Union is ripping you off if they are telling you that is what insurance will cost.

My parents don't even pay that and they have to pay top dollar because their insurance has to be accepted worldwide and the demographic of their group is over 50 and so-so health.

You might want to check out why your union is lying to you.

148 posted on 09/20/2004 4:30:24 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (There is no Chaos. Only very complicated Order. (Presenting Lady Snuggles of the Lethal Yew in PJ's!)
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To: anoldafvet; Apache48; aposiopetic; asformeandformyhouse; Ask_Y_First; auggy; bearsgirl90; ...
KENTUCKY PING

If you want on or off the Kentucky PING list, let me know.

149 posted on 09/20/2004 4:30:50 PM PDT by RonPaulLives
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To: RonPaulLives

bttt


150 posted on 09/20/2004 6:12:52 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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bttt


151 posted on 09/20/2004 6:13:04 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Old Sarge; Republican Wildcat; RonPaulLives; kjfine; USVet6792Retired

I happen to be an employee of the federal government and have the Federal Employees Health Benefit Plan. My current carrier is Mail Hnadlers, high option. My premium in 2004 is $180.61 every two weeks. In 2005 the premium is increasing to $296.79, an increase of $116.18 every two weeks, or $3020.68 a year.

I do have the option of switching and am going to do so. Moving to a plan with a high deductible and a Health Savings Account. I will pay less and have almost $2000 in the HSA every year and still have PPO coverage for major illness. Fortunately we are all healthy and do not have major health problems.

My point is, my SIL is a teacher and all she did this weekend was complain about the cost of her insurance. I guess she thinks she is the only one facing an increase.


152 posted on 09/20/2004 6:38:25 PM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: Republican Wildcat; RonPaulLives

thanks... :)) bttt


153 posted on 09/20/2004 7:09:12 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: skinkinthegrass; RonPaulLives; SLB; Old Sarge

Here are two press releases from Fletcher's office. The first is released before the vote for a strike, the second released after the KEA voted to strike. Notice the difference in tone. Fletcher was already working with them and was negotiating a better scenario, but they voted to strike anyway. Our common sense already told us this, but it is now beyond obvious the KEA is coordinating with the Kentucky Dem party to try to influence the election -- the Oct. 27 date for the strike makes it obvious.


Press release 1:

STATEMENT FROM GOVERNOR ERNIE FLETCHER REGARDING A POSSIBLE KEA STRIKE

Over the last several days, I have met with many state employees, public school teachers and union leaders. I met with Frances Steenbergen and want to keep the lines of communications open.

As Governor however, it would be inappropriate to negotiate if they choose to promote an illegal strike.

No illegal strike or other organized job action can be justified. I am concerned and compassionate about the impact of health insurance costs on all state employees and teachers. An illegal strike or work stoppage would be harmful to our children.

What makes this situation even more frustrating is that the problem of escalating health care costs has been neglected for so long by previous administrations.

I want teachers and teacher unions to work with my administration toward the goal of parity of teacher compensation with the surrounding states-a goal which I share with the members of the teaching profession.
_____________


Press release #2

STATEMENT FROM GOVERNOR ERNIE FLETCHER REGARDING THE KEA UNION'S CALL FOR A STRIKE

I am very disappointed that the KEA union has called for an illegal strike. Certainly, they have gone too far. No person, group or union is above the law. This action is illegal, inappropriate, and sets a dangerous precedent.

The disregard of law always has serious consequences and is highly inappropriate for those who serve as role models for our children in public schools. I urge the union to reconsider.

This action was taken well after midnight following hours upon hours of contentious and chaotic meetings. JCTA's president apparently bullied his colleagues into making a rash and ill-advised decision. An illegal strike harms our children, parents, communities and endangers public respect for the teaching profession.

I have always been open to discuss the KEA union's concerns and any reasonable adjustments they have. However, it is inappropriate for me to negotiate in response to an illegal threat. No illegal strike or other organized job action can be justified. I am concerned and compassionate about the impact of health insurance costs on all state employees and teachers, but an illegal strike or work stoppage would be harmful to our children and our Commonwealth.


154 posted on 09/20/2004 8:05:40 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: RonPaulLives
It's great that we have Home Schooling and Private Schools for an opt out of Gov't run Public (brainwasher's) Schools!
If Only we could get the same wonderful tax benefits. Since the Governments going to break the rules, against the Constitution, by intervening in "Church & State","state"=Public Schooling, then why don't they give those same wonderful tax/health benefits to all teacher!?
{smirk}
155 posted on 09/20/2004 8:22:03 PM PDT by CourtneyLeigh (Why can't all of America be Commonwealth?)
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To: Republican Wildcat
..Our common sense already told us this, but it is now beyond obvious the KEA is coordinating with the Kentucky Dem party to try to influence the election

...the dice have been thrown...

156 posted on 09/20/2004 8:29:19 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: skinkinthegrass

You know, the last time they tried a statewide strike was in 1970. Quiz: What factor do today and that time have in common?


157 posted on 09/20/2004 8:35:38 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
Hmm...*pop*/traveling back in time to HS/*pop*...Nunn, was the last GOP gov...so is the present occupant...Do I win a prize? :)) ..as to your FReepmail, it does seem to have wandered away.
158 posted on 09/20/2004 8:48:15 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: Republican Wildcat
..btw, his liberal (also from the GOP) son challenged Fletcher last fall. :^)
159 posted on 09/20/2004 8:52:35 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: benson106
I am just curious. I just did the math, and $38,000/182=$208. You make $208 a day. Now, turn that into a 5 day a week job year round, and that equals about $54,000. I work 60 hours a week and make $28,800 a year. I don't think I can work up too many tears. I am going back to school to finish my bachelor's degree, because I want to make 50-60K a year.

I live in KY, and I hope the teachers strike. I think that will help kill the Dems here. I cheered out loud when I read Gov. Fletcher's comments.

160 posted on 09/20/2004 9:52:58 PM PDT by ibheath (Born again and grateful to God.)
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