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‘Flip-flop’ faces new attacks as former wife beats cancer (KERRY UPDATE)
The Sunday Times ^ | September 19, 2004 | Sarah Baxter

Posted on 09/19/2004 1:21:23 AM PDT by MadIvan

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Hmmmmm.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 09/19/2004 1:21:23 AM PDT by MadIvan
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Ping!


2 posted on 09/19/2004 1:21:39 AM PDT by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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To: MadIvan
I've heard the commercial and it's for real! It's a playing card firm and has NOTHING whatsoever to do with Rush.The git who wrote this overtly biased article,is no better than Dandy Dan Rather,who purports lies are facts and forgeries better than the truth.

It's awfully cavalier of the girls to be off campaigning for their father (who is also a Catholic,even though the article stresses that it was Terry who demanded the annulment),while their mother was battling cancer.

3 posted on 09/19/2004 1:32:25 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: MadIvan
Long after his divorce, Kerry went on to annul his marriage to Thorne in deference to his second wife, a Catholic.

Which means that his marriage to his first wife never happened and, for all intents and purposes, his children from that union are illegitimate.

Wonder how that makes the Kerry kids feel? Hell, wonder how it makes his first wife feel?

4 posted on 09/19/2004 1:34:06 AM PDT by Prime Choice (The Religion of Peace ISN'T.)
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To: MadIvan

How the hell can you annul a marriage that produced two kids? I'm confused. Kerry's an even bigger asshole than I previously thought!


5 posted on 09/19/2004 1:37:24 AM PDT by Capricam
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To: Prime Choice
Hell, wonder how it makes his first wife feel?
“It was disrespectful to me, it was aloof to any emotional issues and devoid of any sense of the humanity of what this means to me and the children,” said Thorne.

6 posted on 09/19/2004 1:37:52 AM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Capricam
How the hell can you annul a marriage that produced two kids?

By paying a priest enough money...

7 posted on 09/19/2004 1:38:25 AM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Capricam
How the hell can you annul a marriage that produced two kids?

Ask Teddy Kennedy.

8 posted on 09/19/2004 1:41:05 AM PDT by Salvey
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To: Ichneumon
“It was disrespectful to me, it was aloof to any emotional issues and devoid of any sense of the humanity of what this means to me and the children,” said Thorne.

Thanks for passing that along. It confirms what I thought of Kerry all along. The man has not a care for anyone's feelings save his own.

I don't know whether to feel sorry for him or kick him in the 'nads. (Okay, I do know...but I don't want a visit from the Secret Service, okay?)

9 posted on 09/19/2004 1:44:32 AM PDT by Prime Choice (The Religion of Peace ISN'T.)
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How the hell can you annul a marriage that produced two kids?

Money and political influence work wonders. Sad, but true.

Every time it happens, I lose that much more respect for the church.

10 posted on 09/19/2004 1:45:48 AM PDT by Prime Choice (The Religion of Peace ISN'T.)
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Some right-wing commentators have made hay with Kerry’s relationships, however. One of the most biting, Ann Coulter, has blasted the candidate as “just a gigolo”, “living off other men’s money by marrying their wives and daughters”.

This would be a cheap shot if such comments weren't often made in response to the constant portrayal of the Bush family as evil because of its fortune or not being deemed deserving of its wealth.

11 posted on 09/19/2004 1:54:29 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (The Final Score: Buckhead 1, Talking Head 0)
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How the hell can you annul a marriage that produced two kids?

Just say the four magic words: "A Kennedy Sent Me."

12 posted on 09/19/2004 1:56:54 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (The Final Score: Buckhead 1, Talking Head 0)
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In another book, on depression, she described how she had contemplated suicide. “Five months after my 36th birthday, my mind ravaged by corroding voices, my body defeated by bone-rattling panics, I sat on the edge of my bed minutes from taking my own life.”

If I was married to that pompous blowhard, self-agrandizing Kerry, I'd consider killing myself too.

13 posted on 09/19/2004 1:59:58 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Ichneumon

This makes you able to marry in the Catholic church,according to the rules you must never have had sex with your partner to get an annulment,or as others have statement give a large sum to the Catholic church


14 posted on 09/19/2004 2:12:38 AM PDT by patriciamary
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Sorry stated,so in the eyes of the church you were never married.


15 posted on 09/19/2004 2:13:44 AM PDT by patriciamary
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To: MadIvan
"Republican dirty tricks may intensify now..."

"Republican dirty tricks" is another Democrat catchphrase spread throughout the partisan "Newsmedia"--like "gravitas" or "Ken Starr is out of control". Obviously this writer for the Times has picked it up. It implies a wide range of unspeakable doings without saying anything specific. It's designed to be parrotted by unthinking robots, useful idiots, and the malevolent, and the Democrats find many of these ready and willing.

16 posted on 09/19/2004 2:20:08 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The internet is the newspaper of record.)
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"...very grateful that people have respected her privacy."

I intend to respect her privacy by completely ignoring her. Can't get more respectful than that.

17 posted on 09/19/2004 2:20:51 AM PDT by Bonaparte (and guess who sighs his lullabies, to nights that never end...)
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To: patriciamary; Prime Choice; Capricam
Just to clear up a common misconception: there is a difference between a civil annulment and a church annulment. I believe that for a civil annulment, non-consummation may be an important consideration (haven't heard of an actual civil annulment in years). A church annulment says that the marriage did not meet the standard for the sacrament of matrimony. While non-consummation may be an argument in some cases, it's far from the only -- or even leading -- argument.

I agree that the church annulment process has been widely abused, outrageously in the U.S. But it has no effect on civil categories: e.g., legitimacy of children, which is strictly in the civil category. This is why a person who gets a church annulment must also divorce to marry again legally.

18 posted on 09/19/2004 2:28:31 AM PDT by maryz
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To: MadIvan

The woman was a fool to marry Kerry, and it's clear he made a dead set at her the minute he found out how much money her family had. He hasn't changed in all these years, and neither has she. We hope and pray she's beaten cancer. It sounds as if she's had a tough time of it.


19 posted on 09/19/2004 2:37:45 AM PDT by hershey
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She's had some rotten luck, certainly - marrying John Kerry, going through having children with him, then being dumped and annulled, then getting cancer.

This isn't a pleasant turn of events at all. I hope she does recover.

Regards, Ivan


20 posted on 09/19/2004 2:39:31 AM PDT by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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