[ProudVet77]

Off topic but it's late. W's gun is an over/under. The 20 Ga sounds like it's for birds? Am I wrong?
Also, somewhere in the dark recess of my mind, I remember reading my uncles gun catalogs from back in the 50s. I seem to recall that an over/under could refer to a shotgun and a rifle combined. Anyone ever see one of those? Like a 12 ga under a 30-06. Or has a once great mind gone to waste.

[bobo1]

Savage made a nice camp gun which was O/U. Most popular I believe was a .22 rimfire over a 20 guage. They may have made a few in centerfire calibers, but not in the 30.06 class. Think that would be a little too hot for the action.

blessings, Bobo

[2Fro]

When I was in high school in the late Forties/early Fifties in Nevada, I knew a man whose fondest possession was his .410 shotgun/.22 rifle over/under. He used it to hunt dove and jack rabbits in the high sage. I remember complaining that both were single shot--his answer was that he had learned to hit the target with a single shot. And he usually did.

[Free Trapper]

Savage made some popular over-under,rifle-shotgun combos in different calibers and gauges.

[ALinArleta]

I own a Savage over and under shotgun I bought in 1957 before I got out of the Army. I was stationed at Camp Roberts Calif and would go hunting on the base almost every day. I owned a 20ga single shot and a 22 single shot. If i took the shot gun I saw bobcats and coyotes. If I took the 22 I saw dove and quail. I bought the Savage in a 20ga under and a 22Mag over. It is still my favorite upland gun.

[MistrX]

I remember them, too.
They came in various configurations; 410/.22, 20ga./.38, etc.
I don't rmember who manufactured them, though.
The good old days.

[claudiustg]

---Off topic but it's late. W's gun is an over/under. The 20 Ga sounds like it's for birds? Am I wrong? ---

Bush being from Texas, it's probably for doves, although down there the Remington 1100 in 20ga is by far the most popular dove gun.

[mec1]

The Weatherby Athena is made by either Ithaca or SKB and is a double barrel barrel gun with one barrel above the other. There are double guns (and triple) with combination shot and rifle barrels in various arrangements, but a 20 guage is the rave thing for trendy quail and dove hunters.

Very likely, Kerry was just babbling about his Chinese Assault Rifle but if he brought it home as a war trophy, it is probably a fully automatic arm registerable under the national firearms act of 1934-36 et al: If he bought it stateside just out of nostalgia, it is almost certainly a civilian look-alike semi-automatic. In either case it would be an AK 47 (Automavit Kalashnikov)possibly made in the PRC. These were supposedly banned under the recently expired Clinton Gun Ban but in fact, they continued to be imported and sold after being sanitized with a few cosmetic changes and lower capacity magazines.

In the case of President Bush and John Kerry, it is not unusual for wealthy people to have guns and or to go hunting regardless of nationalities or political affiliation. Even Leonid Breznev liked to go pig hunting even though he was the Eurasian equivalent of a Leftist Democrat.