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Miss Debbie© does revisionist history

Filed under: Dr. Debbie Frisch — Sinner at 12:01 pm on Friday, October 13, 2006

It looks like Miss Debbie© is at it again. One thing I have to say about her is that she is at least as moronic as she is persistent. Ever predictable, she is engaging in some revisionist history yet again. When faced with this type of behavior, one must speak the truth or allow the lies to take root.

Has anyone else experienced Deja Moo (The feeling that you’ve heard this bull before) reading this post?

He we go!

On July 4, I posted a comment on a blog called Protein Wisdom. The post mocked the intelligence of the blog manager, Jeffrey Todd Goldstein and his peeps including Dan Collins. It ended with “Got neurons?”

Oh my Miss Debbie©! You sell yourself short. You posted a number of messages at Protein Wisdom in the beginning of July 2006. Here are some samples:

I’d like to hear more about your “tyke” by the way. Girl? Boy? Toddler? Teen? Are you still married to the woman you ephed to give birth to the tyke?
Tell all, bro!

as I said elsewhere, if I woke up tomorrow and learned that someone else had shot you and your “tyke” it wouldn’t slow me down one iota.  You aren’t “human” to me.

So if you could just tell me the AGE and SEX of your “tyke,” I’d be stoked!
Thanx!

Ooh. Two year old boy. Sounds hot.  You live in Colorado, I see. Hope no one Jon-Benets your baby.

Are you still married to the woman you humped to produce the toddler?

I reiterate:  If some nutcase kidnapped your child tomorrow and did to her what was done to your fellow Coloradan, Jon-Benet Ramsey, I wouldn’t give a damn.

Give your pathetic progeny (I sure hope that mofo got good genes from his mama!) a big fat tongue-filled kiss from me!  LOTS AND LOTS OF SALIVA from Auntie MOONBAT, if you don’t mind!

Somehow, Jeffy boy, I think you get off on the possibility of Frenching your pathetic progeny, even if it is a boy. You seem like a VERY, VERY sick mofo to me, bro.

You know, Jeff, I just don’t get it. You say, and I believe you, that a human female chose to procreate with you and you have produced a 2 year old progeny.

But you live in Colorado and I really can’t believe there are women desperate and/or stupid enough to procreate with the likes of you.

What am I missing, dude?

So the poor bitch is dirt poor and that’s why she pretended you were worthy of procreating with?

Just my two cents:  The pathetic jeffy boy goldstein plays the jew card 24/7. Didn’t you notice?

THIS IS A CESSPOOL!!! GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN!!!!

JEFF!!! DRINK THE KOOLAID AND LET YOUR WIFE RAISE THE little Goldstein Junior!

I am SHAKING, I tell you, SHAKING!!! in my boots at the prosect at an FBI and/or state police trooper tromping down my driveway to see if I was a threat to the progeny of the pissant name of Jeff “pissant” Goldstein of the pathetic, neutered, sissified, state of Colorado.  I don’t give a rat’s ass whether the pissant’s progeny live or die, but I have no intention of snuffing the mofo’s chillen myself.
Still waiting for some words of wisdom (NOT!) from you, Jeffy boy!
Your little boot-lickers have had their say. What say you, king dingbat?!
Wanna escalate this game. Fine wit me.
Bring it on, hombre. Bring it on.

This is bad enough and shows serious emotional problems, but there’s plenty more where that came from, sadly. In the three months since you have managed to outdo yourself to the nth degree. Including impersonating other bloggers (myself included) and posting stuff that makes this original outbreak of teh craze™ look like a Sunday walk in the park on a summer day.

Here comes the part where she slanders Jeff and Froggy:

I did not know that I had landed in a vile, disgusting section of the blogosphere where 30 ish year old man/boyth were having a big thyber fight and sockpuppeting each other and causing denial of service accounts and photoshopping people in dehumanizing and insulting ways. I didn’t know there were thugs like former Navy SEAL Matthew Heidt who would post lies and escalate a blog brawl into real life. A former Navy SEAL is the guy who took it upon himself to escalate my fight with Jeff Goldstein and the other men I was arguing with. Matthew Heidt, a former Navy SEAL decided to intervene in a fight on the web where it was 10(?) men against 1 woman and metaphorically kick/punch/rape the woman a little harder. Matthew Heidt is a vile, sexist, sadistic unethical, stupid warrior - he should have been a Marine!

She is forgetting that she started it. She went there on her own and could have left at any time. She could have stuck by her apology and bought Jeff that bottle of hooch, but instead she decided that she should step up the attacks.
Now comes the part where she is the victim:

I thought Protein Wisdom was typical, run of the mill, right wing drivel like Cafe Hayek, Professor Bainbridge, etc.
I didn’t know Mr. Goldstein was known in the wild west of the blogosphere as count c#ckula. If I had just googled him prior to commenting on his blog, I probably would have said YIKES YUCK from the getgo and completely avoided being cyber-gangbanged on July 7-9 and then cyber-stalked and harassed by Mr. Goldstein and his friends in the three months since then.

You are not being cyber-stalked. Jeff has not written about you even once. He never linked any of my sites that are out there soley to amplify your own words. It really is a cryin’ shame that you can’t see the evil inside you.

Next is the part where Jeff lies by filing a TRO and tries to link me to Jeff.

Mr. Goldstein filed a frivolous, toothless and perjurous restraining order against me. It prohibits me from emailing him or posting to his blog but does not prohibit me from mocking him and his pathetic family and friends, including a person named sinner who could be a sockpuppet for (blogue-speak for “one and the same person as”) Mr. Goldstein, for all I know.

Her deep understanding of the law tells her that Jeff would have to prove that monkeys do NOT fly out of his #ss. Her defense would be “Let’s just wait and see. It doesn’t happen that often.”

The TRO may have been toothless, but is was certainly not frivolous. It was certainly not perjury to show the judge your own words. I have not seen the order, but I would be stunned to find out that it does not “prohibit me from mocking him…”

I am not Jeff Goldstein and I don’t play him on TV or the Internet. I am a fan of Jeff and the organizer of a group dedicated to seeing you out of the teaching business.

Next is where she restates that I have two blogs “dedicated to her”.

Mr. Goldstein’s friend Sinner has created two blogs to harass and incite physical, emotional and financial damages against me. The original, created on July 10 is Don’t Hire Dr. Deborah Frisch, hosted at blogger. The new and improved one is Teh Squeaky Wheel, hosted by somewhere geekier, which sinner and his sicko pseudofriends like.

We dealt with these charges before. Really Debbie, you need some new material.

DHD was dedicated to her and will be there for the use of college administrators for the life of Google. It is nothing but your own words, yet you feel threatened by it… curious.

Teh Squeaky Wheel is most definitely NOT dedicated to you. It is dedicated to the community that your words spawned. If you didn’t keep tinkling on our ankles, we wouldn’t be completely pwning you 5 ways to Sunday. In fact we wouldn’t even be talking about you. You just keep coming back for more. Don’t worry, I have an endless supply of what you need.

Here comes “making profits from her”:

Mr. Goldstein and Sinner (if indeed they are separate people) have both profitted financially from these harassment blogs.

I don’t see how you can claim this about Jeff. He is spending money on lawbaws and has not written about you since the original incident. As for my tip jar, it is currently at $507 (vs. your $15). I paid almost $200 for the hosting service and will pay that again next fall. My consulting time is billed at $120/hour. If you think this is a profitable venture for me, you are very much mistaken. All this and the simple fact that this site was conceived to get away from you as a topic completely destroys that charge.

One of commenters on Sinner’s blog, Hugh V. Slatery emailed the assistant district attorney to slander me. Mr. Slatery wrote:

From: Hugh V Slatery
To: Emem Ibanga
CC: Deborah Frisch
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 23:48:10 -0400
Dear Mr. Ibanga,
I, along with others, am presently being stalked by Dr. Deborah Frisch, a resident of Eugene, Oregon.
She has been charged with stalking in Lane County already under your case number 210616276 and is due for an appearance in Circuit Court on Wednesday, September 27, 2006.
She has called my home phone number late this evening and hung each time she called.
I will call your office tomorrow morning and send you a complete file of screen captures of statements she has made.
Hugh Slatery
Lexington, Kentucky

What part of that letter is false? Oh… wait I see it coming

I did not call Mr. Slatery or anyone else. Mr. Slatery took it upon himself to intervene in my real life by sending an email with false allegations to the district attorney.

Ahhh… I guess someone broke into your shack, er, 5 acorn ranch and made those calls against your will. Well, that explains everything! I guess the part about stalking me, Jeff, Hosedragger, Jay Reimer, some random fireman, and the entire Sacramento Fire Department doesn’t enter into the discussion because you say so…

Of course, in a perfect world, this crazy, inappropriate, repulsive behavior would not cause damages because the assistant district attorney would realize this was inappropriate and irrelevant. But we do not live in a perfect world and the email gave the assistant district attorney an excuse not to back down completely in the face of:
a. a signed letter obtained by the defendent’s lawyer and a female associate from the alleged victim saying her grievances had been resolved
b. the alleged victim’s failure to show up at the July 25 hearing for the stalking petition

In a perfect world, the evidence would be enough to get you off the streets until you got the help you need and showed some remorse. What the DA did was the best he could do in our justice system. He made the period for you to break your probation as long as possible. I hope they throw the book at you hard when they see this.

Of course, in a perfect world, it would not be possible to be hauled out of bed at 2:30 in the morning by three police officers from another jurisdiction (city of Eugene vs. Lane County) because you sent a text message to a woman after one of the three officers had enough free time on his hands playing “rescue the damsel in distress” and called you and advised you not to call her.

“Protect and Serve” Do those words mean anything to you? If you had not broken the law the Police would not arrest you. Seems like a simple concept, which clearly eludes you.

But anyway thanks to Sinner, a financial partner of Jeff Goldstein , Hugh V. Slatery of Lexington Kentucky has caused me damages. He sent an email to Mr. Ibanga and Mr. Ibanga chose to use that as an opportunity to “cut a deal” with Mr. Duvall instead of “dropping the charges.”

I am not a partner of Jeff Goldstein, financially or any other way. I have never met him and we have shared a few emails, generally about your antics. Mr. Ibanga did his job and the residents of Oregon should be proud to have him on their payroll.

The Nigerian earned a couple of macho points, I guess, in the pathetic, sordid world of the guys with the faux-prix on their nex.

What does Mr. Ibanga’s national origin have to do with anything? Nice tolerant liberal…

My shyster earned a couple of brownie points with the DA’s office.

Something tells me that is completely wrong. I am guessing that he has to apologize for doing his job in your case. My bet is that Mr. Ibanga will have a bad taste in his mouth whenever Mr. Duvall is present. Can’t do a lot of good for Mr. Duvall.

The damage to me was minimal.

I agree. It should have been worse, much worse.

What’s one more little kick in the face because a chick lied to a cop after the jail, stress and $$$ thing?

Oh, poor baby! You really believe you are the victim, don’t you? That is so funny! The next time you get in fromt of Mr. Ibanga, he’s gonna toss your head around the courtroom like a beach ball at a Foghat concert.

I still haven’t decided if I’m gonna write to the judge in denver and ask him to dismiss the charges on account of I never met the guy and can’t afford to come to Denver and don’t think it would be good for me and Mr. Goldstein to meet face to face anyway…

Is that a hard decision for you, Miss Decision Scientist? Seems like it might have been the first thing I would do, right after getting a lawbaw. But, that’s just little ‘ol sane me. DO IT NOW!

If the judge wants to let the former employee of Moye/White and the unemployed fiction writer keep a restraint on my behavior vis-a-vis emailing the count and commenting on his shlock, so be it.

Just keep telling yourself that. That is only the first baby-step. Man, you’re gonna have some really bad reality cramps very soon.

Where is Count C#ckula anyway? His dingbat peeps seem to have taken over Lipid Stupidity. Is he in jail?

Yep, really bad reality cramps.

NOTE: I did not provide any trackbacks to Count C#ckula’s toilet bowl, starring Dan Collins! because it might violate the terms of the TRO from CO and I don’t want no mo trubble wit da law!

Heh… Why didn’t that thought stop you from pressing “Publish” on this post? Oh, that’s right! Because you’re a dumb#ss!

This is tiresome but necessary. I would much rather watch a bus crash, well, one of those funny sort of bus crashes, like where a bus is filled with clowns and it crashes into a truck transporting confetti and cream pies. But, alas, you play with the cards you are dealt.


601 posted on 10/13/2006 1:03:15 PM PDT by backhoe
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Leftists pursuing internet control --The internet and talk radio are toxic environments for liberals because they incorporate public interactivity. Television pushes information at people so the message can be controlled, talk radio and the internet are dynamic two way streets that defy interference.
 The Sounds of Silencing

602 posted on 10/14/2006 3:47:35 AM PDT by backhoe
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Fact-Free Reporting

Michael Rubin thinks it's time for a "passive voice watch";  Also at the Corner, military historian Victor Davis Hanson notes another curious development in journalism; Posted by Kate at 10:09 AM | Comments (24) "Yes, the passive voice is a neat tactic, as is the 'anonymous source' and the unverified poll of 'a majority of Canadians say that'...The tactics are used to present a purely fictional opinion; they present a conclusions AS IF it was based on hard data, on expert sources, on a random majority, when in fact, the opinion is unsubstantiated and invalid."--quite brilliant -- I'd never spotted the connection between the passive voice and incomplete journalism, and I work in the media.

There's a really excellent article entitled "Identifying Biased News Coverage" at the blog Honest Reporting Canada.

http://www.honestreporting.ca/English/Identifying-Biased-News-Coverage.html

TRYING TO INTIMIDATE A BLOGGER: This generally backfires. "These comments remind me of Deb Frisch, and her meltdown over at Protein Wisdom Blog."
 
How a Blogger Put Himself in the Middle of Mark Foley Story

603 posted on 10/16/2006 1:16:58 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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More from "My Vast Rightwing Conspiracy"--

Nutroots “gay terrorist” Mike Rogers and “Screw ‘em” Kos want you to stay home on November 7
 

Fuck you, Mike Rogers--you BITCH I think it’s time to revive the “Gay  Terrorist" banner.

Mike Rogers, PROVE IT, you f#ckstain. And then try to find a way to (honestly!) justify making the man’s personal life a campaign issue. What ever happened to people’s sex lives being private? What ever happened to the idea that one’s sexual orientation shouldn’t matter? BECAUSE OF THE HYPOCRISY!!! Pot, meet kettle. PROVE IT, bitch. And then try to DEFEND it.

This is the kind of filth that’s pouring money into Democratic campaigns. Burn the witch! No fags (unless they are in lockstep with the hate-filled left) in Congress!

Don’t forget the heinous Jane Hamsher & Co., they, of the “blackface” Joe Lieberman and telling a black woman to “mind her betters.” No insult is off-limits to them, because they think that as “progressives,” they’re automatically given a pass.

And then you have the infamous Daily Kostards, the animals that celebrate “milestones” of dead Americans in Iraq, that say “screw ‘em” when their fellow Americans are slaughtered and mutilated by terrorists…well, you know the litany of disgrace there.

Dan Riehl:

DNC Chair Howard Dean, Senators Barbara Boxer and Harry Reid, among others, traveled to Nevada to solicit support and lavish praise on the same individual whose blog is now featuring the clearest example of homophobic-laced hate in politics I’ve ever seen. Even today, they are raising money for a so-called expanded field.

The Democrat Party built this network and that blog. They funded it with advertising, many, including John Kerry, have written copy for it and fueled its rage. And they reaped the fruit of that rage in dollars and in hype.

Now it’s election time and they all deserve to be held accountable for encouraging such hate and paving the way for its hate-filled tactics designed for one reason - to benefit them, yet, again.

Ace:

The thuggishness is getting out of hand. It may be well past time to get as dirty and nasty as these jagoffs are.

Pissed off yet?

Allah:

Patterico expects a backlash. So do I. In fact, I haven’t felt this motivated to vote in weeks.

Slublog:

Thanks, Mike. A few weeks ago, I was going to hold my nose and vote. Now, I can’t wait.

Yep, thanks, Mike. I had been distressed at the apathy I’d been seeing, but you seem to have cured it. I guess when you can’t get your issues through on their own merits, you have to resort to the worst of dirty politics. Or I guess you “have to” when you’re a soulless, hate-filled nihilist. I don’t know how these vermin can sleep at night.

(Priceless!) Misha:

I don’t care if Larry Craig or anybody else is as gay as a tree full of monkeys on nitrous oxide. What they do with consenting adults of legal age behind closed doors is nobody’s business but theirs and, furthermore, it does not in the least bit affect my personal opinion of them. They have a problem with G-d, but that’s not for me to sort out, nor do I want any part of it.

What I do care about a great deal is mindless thugs like you and your execrable friend, John Trichinosis, who, faced with the harsh reality that your intellects are too minute to impress an oyster on the half shell, resort to extortion, threats and assorted other hallmarks of Idiotarians seriously under-endowed in the ethical, intellectual and moral departments.

BRAVO! Consider that “megadittoed.” With a clenched fist.

For the record:

Senator Craig’s office flatly rejected the claims. “The Senator says this story is absolutely ridiculous – almost laughable,” said press secretary Sid Smith. “It has no basis in fact.”

Almost laughable, but it’s not. Rogers had better produce some proof, or he might be looking at a lawsuit (I doubt a US Senator would dignify this trash with a lawsuit, but you never know). And do you think Senator Craig is the only one in his sights right now? No. In his shameless bleg for money that immediately follows the outing (making the whole stunt even that much more nauseating!), he boasts:

There’s more research to do… There is at least one more member of Congress to report on within the next few weeks — and with some very intertesting [sic] documents, no less… And let there be no doubt, I already have some of the documents I will be using to report on this member of Congress.

Mike Rogers, you make me sick. Rarely does a person so proudly show such a complete lack of humanity, ethics, or simple intelligence. You are beneath scum. Yuk it up now, you diseased cow, ’cause karma’s a bitch.


So, do the Democrats on this list disavow the hateful creatures that are working so hard on their behalf? Silence signifies approval, and I hear nothing.


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And FWIW? I agree with bamapacyderm ( and other bloggers ) comments- this sort of smearing and sleaze is despicable.

But wait!

There's More!

Honest to God, if the Donks really want to turn the pivot-point of the Novemeber 7 elections into "all gay sex, all outing, all gay bashing, all the time, 24-7?"

Feel free... this is going to backfire worse than Lil Kim's Nukular Fizzle...

Liberal Gaybashing Continues (UPDATED)

If they keep this up, they’re going to make the Westboro Baptist “Church” look like pikers.

Mike Rogers, noted best buddy of AmericaBlog’s John Trichinosis, has decided, after having threatened for a long time to out allegedly homosexual Republicans unless they vote as he wants them to vote, to make good on his extortionist threats by alleging that Idaho’s Larry Craig is gay (go to the link for more, it’s being continuously updated).

The Daily Kossacks are, of course, elated and wholly supportive of this violation of privacy. Larry Craig isn’t a terrorist, after all, so he has no right to privacy, even when it comes to perfectly legal acts.

The Dhimmiwits at Democrap Underwear are equally thrilled and supportive.

Larry Craig, on the other hand, denies it and claims that the allegations are ridiculous. If indeed they are false, then Nazi Rogers is guilty of libel as well as extortion.

Personally, His Majesty couldn’t care less whether Craig is gay or not. I’ve always found it mildly amusing that goons and thugs like Rogers and Trichinosis are constantly carrying on like that, yet it is us conservatives who are the “homophobes.” ***UPDATE:*** LC & IB Dan Riehl has a list of some of the Democrat candidates that have been profiting handsomely from the Daily “Screw ‘Em” Kossacks and their merry band of homophobes.

[…] Yep, thanks, Mike. I had been distressed at the apathy I’d been seeing, but you seem to have cured it. And you’re the ones who claim that you’ll bring ethics and morals back to Washington when your friends take over the House and Senate?

 
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Pingback by SLEAZY ASSAULT ON SEN. CRAIG « Texas Hold ‘Em Blogger  Patterico has the details here, with a link to the scumbag’s site.
 

Slublog states:

I’m going to vote Republican to keep people that Mike Rogers and the Daily Kos support out of office. This sort of dirty politics should not be encouraged - if the Kossacks win with tactics like these, expect to see this sort of thing over and over again in the future. If you’re a conservative thinking of sitting this election out, please don’t.

From CQ:

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/008309.php

The Left Hates Gays?

Apparently, the Left hates gays and believes that private sexual preferences belong on the front page. BlogActive, a site known for outing closeted gays in politics, now claims that Senator Larry Craig (R-ID) has engaged in homosexual activity in the bathrooms of Union Station. He'd better hope they're correct, or he will have one hell of a lawsuit on his hands. Patterico has been following this story and he notes that Craig has denied the entire BlogActive allegation:...this ghastly mudslinging really marks a new low.

Once again, the Left shows its obsession with sexuality, but it's really more than that. The Left obsesses over identity politics in all forms, and that obsession comes out in pathological terms... the obloquy and castigation seems to only come from Rogers and his ilk. I couldn't care less whether Craig is attracted to men or women; it's really none of my business, and none of Rogers' either. As long as he's not importuning minors, then it makes no difference to anyone except Craig and his family, and that's if the allegations have any basis in fact. The only bigot who should be ashamed of himself is Rogers. And if he's a libeler, he better get himself a damned good lawyer. (via Hot Air)  Posted by Captain Ed at 12:47 AM | Comments (16) | TrackBack (2)  "The army of david's on the web have been connecting the dots. They have been working on the gay outers, the page members of the 2001 class and some amazing stuff now being researched about gay porn website owners who also have a parallel life of hosting websites for congressional members outside their official goverment websites. Stay tuned, it ain't over yet."

604 posted on 10/18/2006 6:03:39 AM PDT by backhoe
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LC & IB Dan Riehl has a great post about the alleged GOPblog/DNCblog divide and the assumption that every single blog out there falls into either category.

You’re shilling for one or the other but, no matter what, you’re a bought and paid for hack and can be counted upon to defend “your side” no matter what, or so the theory goes.

Dan finds that hilarious (in the sense that abject stupidity and failure to grasp even the simplest of concepts are hilarious), and I wholeheartedly agree.

Oh, there are exceptions out there, but, by and large, blogging is a very simple idea to grok: It’s all about the blogger and his community. If we wanted to become mindless, blindly loyal party drones, we’d get a job with either one of them. Pretty much anything they’d be willing to offer would be better than the big fat nothing we get paid to blog.

What some people still don’t seem to get is that we’re doing this because we want to, because we have opinions that we want to publish and because we have decided that the time and money we invest in it is worth it. We couldn’t care less about the fat idiots in Washington and the letters next to their names.

It’s as if they’ve utterly forgotten the concept of doing something simply because you want to.

That’s why we call them “Idiotarians” and that’s why I’m an Anti-Idiotarian above all else. I don’t like idiots. I despise them. They’re a waste of perfectly good skin, and I’d be ever so pleased if they’d just saunter off quietly to a remote corner of the planet and kill themselves off, saving the rest of us a lot of trouble in the process. And party loyalty is completely irrelevant. To be sure, idiots tend to congregate on the left side of the political divide, but that doesn’t mean that there aren’t any to be found on the right, and I will happily tear into either kind, as I have done in the past on too many occasions to count.

Yet still we have the occasional Idiotarian showing up, claiming that this site is blindly supportive of the Republican party, which invariably leads to the reply “go read the fucking archives before you choke on your foot, you imbecile.” Sometimes I’m even lucky enough to beat you, dear readers, to the punch and say so before you have the chance, but you’re a truly hard act to keep up with, for which I’m grateful.

I suppose that I could become a mindless party shill if they paid me enough, but I don’t imagine that anybody, no matter what their affiliation, would be rich or stupid enough to come up with the asking price. Here’s a hint: You probably can’t afford it and, even if you could, it wouldn’t be worth it.

Yes, I’m currently stumping heavily for the Republicans on November 7th, but if they or anybody else are daft enough to think that it’s because I have the slightest respect for them, they really need to seek professional help before they kill themselves with a Q-tip while getting up in the morning. I’m doing so for the very simple reason that the alternative is worse. If there was a viable third option, I’d be abandoning the RINO ninkompoops so fast I’d redshift.

I’m not supporting the Republican ticket in ‘06 because they’re worth a shit, because they aren’t, I’m supporting them because the alternative is worth even less. In other words, I’m being entirely pragmatic in my approach. No party loyalty there whatsoever. Why the fuck would I be loyal to somebody who wouldn’t know the meaning of the word “loyalty” if it jumped in their lap and ate their shriveled, poppyseed testicles off?

There’ll be a reckoning, alright, but it’ll be in ‘08, in the primaries. The primary train of ‘06 has left the station and we are, sadly, left with the choice between cholera and the Plague. So I’ll go for cholera, knowing that it is, at the very least, potentially survivable until the next go-round.

That’s my party loyalty for you. That’s the extent of my mindless shilling for the Republican party for you.

I’m left with no good choices, so I choose the one that is less repugnant to me, keeping in mind that there’ll be another round in the future and that I can’t wait to drive the knife into the backs of the opportunistic, lying swine that forced me to vote for them this time.

Oh, I would dearly love to shove the blade in between the ribs of the Party of Stoopid right now, revenge is a powerful urge, but it’s also a dish best served cold. Driving a bayonet into the empty, soulless hearts of the RINOs in November would feel so very, very good, but the following two years of liberal malfeasance would not. I’d rather save up my wrath for the right moment so that I can enjoy the kill as well as the aftermath.

And I will have my revenge, you can count on it, unless I happen to die first.

Until then, I cannot justify condemning our brave fighting men and women who have sacrificed so much for us for the last six years to another Viet Nam, another defeat caused, not by the prowess of the enemy, but by the fecklessness of the home front, just because I want to “teach the RINOs a lesson”. I cannot subject all of the good, hardworking citizens of our great nation to at least two years of increasing taxes and loss of liberties, all because it’ll feel good temporarily to stick it to the useless swine RINOs in Washington.

Think about it.

When the newly elected Democrat majority in Congress defunds the war and condemns our troops to an ignominious retreat and defeat in the face of an enemy no worthy of licking their most shit-encrusted pair of boots, when yet another “defeat” is entered into the history books, just how good will it feel to you that you showed your “principles” on November 7th by staying at home?

How will you ever, EVER again be able to look a soldier in the eyes and say “thank you for your service”, much less “I support what you did” if you were complicit in stealing the laurels of victory from his head?

How much will your cherished principles be worth to you then? How sweet will the transient glory of kicking the RINOs in the ass on some obscure date, soon to be forgotten, back in 2006 feel to you then?

Think about it, because that’s what you’ll be facing if you stay at home in November.

Those of you who have been around this site for a while know just how bright my hatred for the RINOs on the ballot burns. You know how deep my disgust for them runs, and you know that I will never forgive and never forget. There WILL be a payback, but the time isn’t now.

Right now, we’re cursed with leaders whose only virtue is that they’ll hold the line. So we’ll hold the line, hanging on to the gains we’ve made, planning for the long view, planning to swap them for people worthy of being called leaders at some point in the future. Or we can punch them in the face and let bastards who will throw it all away take over.

Instant gratification versus planning for the long run.

Choose wisely.

But, then again, I’m just a partisan shill according to the “bright” minds of our nation, so what do I know?

What I DO know is that, whatever we choose on November 7th, we’ll have to deal with the consequences.

We will OWN the consequences.

You’d better be willing to live with that, because in less than three weeks, it’ll be what we’ll all have to deal with, and the ones refusing to vote will be as culpable as the ones who voted for the winning side.

Are YOU up to that?

You’d better be, because time is running out.


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605 posted on 10/20/2006 4:20:33 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Anti-CCP blogburst gets a nod from the MSM -- they are admitting the power of blogbursts! Did they realize they were acknowledging the power of bloggers? Or do they think this makes us look bad?
Well, take it as a compliment Suzanne, GOOD GOING!
 The blogburst was Kathy Shaidle's idea.
FDers, Please post your blog links here! [ 1, 2, 3 ]
 
Media Whores and their Creators
I’m just captivated by the phrase “sad she-clown.”
 
"Breeders" infected with "Feeders"--I’m at war with people who take their vaginas this seriously, whether male or female--Maxed Out Mama can always be counted on to find the post you would be sorry to miss and this time...Pedro The Quietist stumbled onto the latest meme in LaLa Leftist Land - any pregnancy is an opportunistic parasitical infection!
 
Rush Limbaugh, Honorary Lizardoid

Larry Elder’s not the only talk show host giving a shout out to the lizardoid army; Rush Limbaugh gave us a very nice plug yesterday: I’m Not at War with Conservative Bloggerslink: 129 comments  " Rush was alternative media before there was alternative media. We all owe him."

Larry Elder, Honorary Lizardoid

John Hawkins has an interesting interview with talk show host Larry Elder, and I’m not just sayin’ that because Larry reads LGF: An Interview With Larry Elderlink: 25 comments

"Larry's take and Rush's take on why Air American failed are similar, I'm going to take it as true since they definitely know what they are doing in Radio.
If the left would listen, maybe they would get somewhere. "


606 posted on 10/21/2006 5:51:10 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Reporter(Pincus): Media should help set national agenda --This brilliant observation was made in the WSJ's review of My Name is Rachel Corrie "a scrappy, one-sided monologue consisting of nothing but the fugitive observations of a young woman who, like so many idealists, treated her emotions as facts."


607 posted on 10/21/2006 12:57:14 PM PDT by backhoe
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If anyone was following the 655,000 thread today, you might have noticed a couple of comments with a dunce cap that looks like this:

This is a troll

I decided to modify and install a plugin that would let the admins here identify those comments they deemed to be trollish in nature. There is now a button in the admin area ironically labeled “troll” for that purpose.

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608 posted on 10/22/2006 1:26:50 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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spaceship blog is written by an 80 yr.old former test pilot, Apollo test pilot. It’s great reading!

http://spaceshipdewaj.blogspot.com

609 posted on 10/23/2006 11:19:27 AM PDT by backhoe
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The new political clock - Mainstream Media Time vs Blog Time--If the bloggers get it right this time, this really will be yet another crisis point for Mainstream Media Time - a point at which their most loyal consumers will be compelled to wonder why they're bothering to pay attention to writers and editors whose sense of America is so completely out of whack. Especially if there is another force out there that ate the mainstream media's lunch. If, however, the bloggers are getting it wrong, this will be the first major blow in their wildly successful rush this decade to dominate the way political news is made, reported and consumed.
610 posted on 10/24/2006 1:32:50 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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TV is dead-- "YouTube, Digg, and MySpace took out TV a few months back, and now the corpse is sitting up and taking notice."--TV is dead because of the Internet. TV is dead because we don't have time for it. TV is dead because the computer lives. TV is dead because of the stupid blogosphere, the so-called "new" medium of podcasting, TiVo, RSS, and HDTV. TV is dead because TV now sucks more than all of the previous. Goodbye cable. Goodbye broadcast. Goodbye blockbusters. Goodbye Studio 60. That's what this is about, tricking time, teleporting yourself across the country.


 
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611 posted on 10/25/2006 4:08:59 AM PDT by backhoe (VOTE LIKE YOUR LIFE ( and your children's lives )DEPENDS ON IT...)
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Dixie Chicks Just Now Blamed Free Republic For Their Downfall On "Hardball"...glad to know you're reading our posts. Your statements about being sick of all the pictures of the American soldiers and the flag crossed the line. My son is one of them and you spoiled brats should be grateful. You are rich and famous because of the freedoms they ensure. You make me sick that you even call yourselves Americans. Reep the benefits and trash those who do your dirty work.

612 posted on 10/26/2006 4:25:13 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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AIM In Textbooks & Reality

Information Warfare: Calling Out the New York Times :

613 posted on 10/27/2006 1:06:26 PM PDT by backhoe
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Dr. Deb Frisch returns, spewing Debborrhea™
 
http://tehsqueakywheel.com/2006/10/28/swmnbn-stirs/
 

SWMNBN stirs

Filed under: Admin, Dr. Debbie Frisch — Sulla-C at 11:02 am on Saturday, October 28, 2006

We view so you don’t have to.

Deb’s got a new post up. It’s the same old stuff, and it’s clear she’s stuck in teh cycle, and not processing new data with any degree of accuracy.

More after the fold. (content warning)

Did Colorado Child Protective services finally take the tyke away from count cockula? He sure seems to have a lot of time on his hands. I picture Jeffrey Todd Goldstein, or maybe his lawyer Paul Lewis (formerly of Moye/White and temporarily with Sherman/Howard) posting the stallking, threatening messages on eugene craigslist with one hand and jerking off with the other.

No comment needed.

Yes, this has been forwarded to the necessary parties. Could even be “actionable” [*ding*]. Deb’s degree now officially stands for “Piled Higher and Deeper.”

I don’t understand why Jeff Goldstein and his counsel Paul Lewis are posting (or at least condoning) [*ding*] the posting of messages on craigslist to harass me and the ongoing blog by sinner to harass me and raise funds for Mr. Goldstein.

This accusation is so July. This well-trod canard is an ongoing case of Tipjar Envy. If Denny is correct, we’ve probably cost Mr. Goldstein more than we could possibly raise for him by our efforts to feed her scre2eds directly to the cordial but on the clock Mr. White. (Denny’s suggestion - forward incriminating evidence to Jeff and let him handle the info sharing with his lawyer.)

The cash we donated to Jeff on DHD will not even cover the shipping costs on Deb’s laptop/monkey/seal after the CO judgment turns Camp Kasczinski into Casa Goldstein West.
Even so, for sheer psy-ops value, every dollar over the fifteen sympathy bucks her famished tipjar holds is worth its weight in gold.

Jeff Goldstein and/or his associates recently posted my home address on the web.

[*ding*]

If something happens to me, Mr. Goldstein, sinner, Mike Davis of the sacramento fire department, Hugh V. Slatery of Lexington Kentucky, John Henry of Puerto Rico and the other cyber-lesbian-rapists who get off on attcking me on the web will be investigated. How willl being the target of a murder investigation enrich Mr. Goldstein’s life, Mr. Lewis?

On Saturday Night Live, Chevy Chase once had this news bulletin: “A man has barricaded himself into his home. However, he is unarmed, and nobody seems to care.”

I’ll say for the record: it is the official policy of Teh Squeaky Wheel that we condemn in the strongest terms any attempt to go to or near the home of Dr. Deborah Frisch, except by duly ordained officers of the court. We condemn any attempt to harm or intimidate Dr. Frisch.

Mocking her is another matter. She feels that any slight, real or imagined, gives her a blank check to speak obscenely about the wives and children of her alleged tormentors. We get plenty of mileage simply quoting her, and examining the implications of her words.

And the more Jeff Goldstein and his even sicker sidekick sinner stalk and harass me, the more I repeat my jokes about Mr. Goldstein, his wife and two year old son (satchel) and Mr. Sinner, his wife and four year old daughter (snatchel).

See above. Sinner’s only interaction with the Deb in recent weeks has been to publicly rebut her [*ding*] comments against him. Prior to that, he modified this blog’s software to recognize and AutoMock her comments when she arrived on this site to stir up trouble.

Meanwhile, Deb has modified comments on HER site from people other than Goldstein and Sinner, to attribute those commnents to them and their children. [*Ding*]

I’m just the offspring of a lawyer/judge, and never made it past the LSAT myself. But I’m fairly certain that “they make fun of me, so I get to make references to them and their families that would be too obscene for The Aristocrats” is an argument that won’t carry the day in court.

Is the fun [*Ding*] being had by the not homophobic/not Christian/pervo dad [*Ding*] of two year Satchel and the Christian/homophobic/cyber-rapist dad [*Ding*] of four year old Snatchel [*Ding*] really cost effective, Mr. Lewis? Do the po hos [*Ding*] who married these a-holes [*Ding*] REALLY understand the cyber-consequences of the sick [*Ding*] fucks’ [*Ding*] fun [*Ding*]?

Hmmm. My Actionable Ringer is dulling from overuse.

Snatchel’s [*Ding*] daddy Sinner is a very sick mofo, continuing to provide the infrastructure via 2 different blogs for psychotic christians (I know, I know, that’s redundant!) to cyber-rape [*Ding*] me months after the ramsey joke. Get over it you kreepy, kristian perverts.

This has been repeated so often it’s almost tradition. Ramsey happened on Day One of this whole sorry mess. It matters, but it is insignificant when weighed against the next three months of ongoing abuse, child-porn explicit “fiction,” obscenely sockpuppeting the wives and toddlers of goldstein and sinner, sockpuppetting Matthew Heidt and others with suicide notes and “did you hear ___ killed himself?” comments to other peoples’ boards, telephone harassment of firemen she considers MIGHT BE the “hosedragger” who has so effectively held the mirror to this Medusa of Malice…

I get carpal tunnel just summarizing her online (and offline) abuses of innocent people, just to get to her alleged tormentors.

If I denton myself [*Ding ding ding ding*] but it looks suspicious [*Ding*], Snatchel and Satchel might not see their daddies for a VERY long time.

This cannot be taken lightly. In the past she’s always refuted the idea that she would. Here she is suggesting the possibility, and also of making it look like a murder. Doctor-assisted suicide is legal in Oregon, but this premeditation and malice (planning a suicide with the intent to harm another; stating it publicly with the intent to threaten) is a crime.

I believe that would actually be in the best interests of the tykes [*Ding*], given what I’ve seen of the the s*acthels’ sperm providers.

But alas, I am not altruistic enough to denton myself to spare satchel and snatchel from more exposure to their sicko daddy-os.

Too little, too late.  Some things simply have to be said aloud to be sufficient for action.  The authorities have been notified.
This woman makes me tired. That much rage and irrationality is draining even to those who must simply endure it second-hand.  Her stores of bile and outrage are epic in their vastness.  If Hercules were around today, she would be his thirteenth task.

Lacking him, we have only an army of Davids to combat this short-bus Goliath of internet terrorism.  Comments (19)


614 posted on 10/28/2006 12:48:18 PM PDT by backhoe
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Your People, Sir, Is a Great Beast

That's the title of this provocative post on the Power Line Forum

--An article in the American Thinker states: “The New Media have not yet beaten the Old. They are making a difference, but the Old Liberal Media have protected their power, at the cost of major alienation from millions of America. Over time, the Old Media will continue to move to the Net, but the political debate will continue. The New Media have a voice, but not as powerful as ABCCBSNBCPBSNPR.” ***

Not only is the old media still more powerful, but they are – in my opinion – doing an effective job at marginalizing the new media. Conventional wisdoms created by the old media include: Fox News is a right wing news service, Talk radio consist of a bunch of mean spirited right wing nut-jobs, and the blogosphere is comprised of a bunch of pajama wearing wannabes that don’t have any more credibility than any other source on the internet. I had once found hope in the belief that the new media would be able to make a breakthrough in reaching the masses. These days however, I fear that the new media is being relegated to preaching to the choir (as Rush has been doing for many years in my opinion – his audience hasn’t seen change in composition or size for some time). Permalink  

 
Newt Reacts to the Election Results--"We need to understand that the threats we're faced with are so frightening and so real; the danger that we'll lose 2 or 3 American cities is so great that we cannot play games with each other; we cannot manipulate each other; we have to have an open, honest dialogue." -- Newt Gingrich, reacting to what he sees as the President's lack of sufficient candor with the American people in that clip.--http://www.newt.org/multimedia/default.asp?mi=324

615 posted on 11/12/2006 6:53:14 AM PST by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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Here 's this sunday's Media Nuggets

###### Hearings, Pelosi? NBC Robs New York taxpayers to eliminate 700 jobs. And worse, NBC got a whopping $133 million in tax subsidies.

###### News Corp. might acquire Newsday.

###### Major Shareholder Steps Up Fight With NY Times. Morgan Stanley investment fund urges the NYTimes Co. board to "reform" its corporate governance practices. At the same time, warns shareholders to Dump their shares of the NYTimes.

###### Philadelphia Inquirer May Lose 150 Jobs.

###### Chicago Sun-Times reports big losses!

###### LA Times editor FIRED!

###### While Pelosi talks about minimum wage rise, Big Wage Cuts at her own backyard.

###### While all media ad.sales shrink, WSJ October Ad Sales Rise!

###### For Brit Hume, the clock's ticking. Fox's veteran politics anchor sees retirement down the road.

###### Rupert Murdoch says he has no regrets about supporting the US-led invasion of Iraq and argues the US death toll in the conflict is "minute" from a historical perspective.(If only Fox people followed their boss.....)

###### You too, Brian Kilmeade?

###### While David Gregory was arguing about death penalty for Saddam Hussain, his NBC cmera crew delivers death to a person while shooting for dateline.

56 posted on 11/12/2006 8:49:42 AM EST by anita

616 posted on 11/12/2006 6:55:43 AM PST by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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Join the Forum!

A week ago today, we launched our brand new, thoroughly updated Power Line News site. It has all the functionality of our old news site, plus much more, in a beautifully designed (by the Blog Studio), fast loading package. Power Line News is the easiest, and we hope most fun, way to keep up with news and conservative commentary on the web.

The biggest new feature of the revamped news site, by far, is the Power Line Forum. We've never enabled comments on this site, for a number of reasons, but we know that we have many readers who have a lot to say. The Forum allows our readers (and anyone else) to comment not only on our posts, but on those of all ten of the other blogs we feature on Power Line News (Michelle Malkin, InstaPundit, Captain's Quarters, Red State, et al.), as well as the Blog of the Week and just about any news story. Or just start their own threads, which is mostly what has happened so far.

In the first week of its existence, the Forum has taken off to an extent that we did not fully anticipate. A thousand people have registered to post on the site. A number of threads have attracted great interest. The Guess Who's Pleased with Election 2006? thread explores the enthusiasm with which the terrorists have greeted the Democrats' midterm victories. So far, it includes 67 posts and has been viewed by more than 3,800 people. The most popular thread to date is Your People, Sir, Is A Great Beast, with 157 posts and more than 4,600 views in just over 24 hours. And there are a number of others that have received more than 1,000 views over the past few days. New threads are started every few minutes, and the quality of the commentary has been remarkably high.

Our intention is to keep it that way; vigorous debate is great, but anyone responsible for profane or abusive posts will be banned from the site.

So if you want to join the conversation, we think the Power Line Forum is the best place on the web for conservatives (and others, of course) to congregate, commiserate, and debate the issues of the day. Check it out by going here; if you want to participate, all you have to do is go to the main news site and click on the "Join the Power Line Forum" graphic on the right sidebar to register, which requires only seconds. Just be sure to register a working email address, as you have to receive and click on an email to activate your account. From there on, it's up to you.

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A LOOK AT THE PSYCHOLOGY OF big-screen TVs.
 
We Got Mail!

Someone in Chicago sent this well-reasoned message last night. I’m going to take a wild guess and suggest that it may have come from a member of the Religion of Peace.

Little Green F-ckballs,

America has woken up. They have pulled back the curtain and turned a spotlight on the wretched creatures who are engineering the hate. They see the real provocateurs who are intentionally inciting more Middle Easterners and Muslims to hate America. They know Israel is not a blameless victim and see what the neocon journalist F-ckballs and politicians are doing. They know that the invasion of Iraq was not for altruistic reasons, and they see the billions being extracted from their Treasury and lining the pockets of corrupt Halliburton and Bechtel profiteers. They see how the “war on terror” has been corrupted by the Executive branch to seize unconstitutional powers and to justify torture. Torture? Are you kidding me? Did you really believe good, Christian Americans would agree to use their tax money to torture people—some of whom were innocent of any crime? They’re finding out their tax dollars paid for the extradition and torture of an innocent Canadian citizen for several months, and very likely others. How twisted and vile do you think this country is, that they would allow this horrific act to be justified in the name of their national security?

They also see they need to repair the damage their government and the Little Green F-ckball cheerleaders have wrought. They have booted the Party of Fearmongers from both houses of Congress and elected the first Muslim-American in history. Your obsessed F-ckball rants and baseless accusations about Ellison are backfiring, just as they backfired for his opponent Fine. They know this small gesture is a step in the right direction to repair the shattered relations with the world’s 1.2 billion Muslims. They know these relations are critical to fighting the REAL war on terror.

A good percentage of Republicans see these things as well. They see how their party of small government and conservative values has been twisted into an ideological ghoul. A possessed specter of fear more terrifying than the terrorists they claim to be fighting given the immense power they wield. They want their party back. The one hijacked by the Little Green F-ckball deviants who have defiled it with their depraved, ideological schemes.

God bless this great Republic,

J. Bailey


617 posted on 11/13/2006 6:34:40 AM PST by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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http://ocracokechick.blogspot.com/

Syzygy the Gerbil: On Censorship

Seems I don't have much to say these days. Odd, ain't it?

But the Gerbils are always chatting, and Syz, that smart funny rodent (wait. are Gerbils rodents? or are they more like Rabbits?) had this to say last night about whiney celebrities and their whining whines about "censorship" and their "rights" to say whatever they want and behave however they want with no consequences.

Enjoy. I know I did.
Someone needs to hold a celebrity conference on what is, and is not, censorship.

“Welcome ladies and gentlemen. If you’ll look to your left, you will see that we’ve provided large plastic bins for your egos.

First, let me inform you that the only censorship addressed in the Constitution is government censorship. It is not censorship for a potential employer to refuse to hire you because you make statements that may damage his business.

You are celebrities. Your ‘product’ is the public’s perception of you and desire to see you in an entertainment venue. If you do something, or say something that makes the public’s perception of you less positive, or reduces the public’s desire to pay money to see you, then don’t be surprised if producers don’t want you in their movies. Don’t be surprised if people tell you to “shut up and sing.”

Once again, that is not censorship. It’s the right of the public to determine what they will spend their disposable income on and the right of a company or employer to reduce their business risks. Who wants to make a movie staring someone who advocates a position that automatically alienates 50% of the potential paying audience?

As an aside, you might want to do some studying before you open your mouths. After all, most of you never graduated from college. Quite a few of you never graduated from high school. You are paid exhorbitant amounts of money because you’re superficially attractive and have the ability to fake emotions. Some of you are paid a great deal of money because you have the kind of voice that’s easily digitized into something worth listening to, and you’re blonde and look good in a tube top.

Please note that none of the above “skills and talents” make you qualified to comment on foreign policy, political platforms, economic and ecological issues or even the price of a gallon of milk. Also, please note that when you berate the average American for driving an eight cylinder car, while you jet back and forth to a movie set in Alberta every week in a Gulfstream V, the average American is going to roll his eyes and think you’re an idiot.

So, you might want to discuss an issue with someone who is A: an expert, B: doesn’t have their own personal ax to grind, before making idiotic public statements. And finally, since your ‘product’ is your popularity, don’t you think you might take steps to maintain that popularity? Like keeping your mouth shut.

Thank you for your attention and your eight cylinder, gas guzzling, booze filled, professionally driven limos are idling for you outside.


618 posted on 11/26/2006 11:52:40 AM PST by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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TROUBLE NOT THE BLOGGER IN HER LAIR: A lesson that Alcee Hastings hasn't learned. Yet.

619 posted on 11/27/2006 1:48:48 PM PST by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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Daily Kos Diarist Calls BS on America

A virtual history of self-hating leftist thought, brought to you by the Kos Kidz, of kourse. Daily Kos: Calling Bullshit on America. (Hat tip: LGF readers.)  link: 177 comments  "Their whole raison d'etre is to complain ad nauseum. They complain without solutions. Well, now they are in the driver's seat. This will be interesting."

620 posted on 11/29/2006 3:40:34 AM PST by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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