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September showdown in the Bronx : Red Sox vs. Yankees (Live Thread)
NY Daily News ^ | September 17, 2004 | Mike Lupica

Posted on 09/17/2004 8:27:59 AM PDT by presidio9

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To: Chad Fairbanks

I will never denigrate a guy who uses whatever advantage they can get in a fight.

61 posted on 09/17/2004 10:17:06 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9

That wasn't a fight. That was a guy who couldn't handle being heckled.


62 posted on 09/17/2004 10:19:24 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (John Kerry is still facing pajama-clad warriors, and receiving self-inflicted wounds...)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Right. And Veritek didn't like being heckled either. The point is that guys show start fights with a helmet and face mask on are not tough. That's what this is about. Stay on topic.


63 posted on 09/17/2004 10:20:53 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9

So, why couldn't A-Rod just walk to first wihtout making threats? More than likely the only reason A-Rod didn't charge the mound (he was working himself up pretty good, it looked to me) was because Varitek came out... But that's just personal opinion.

Bottom line is both guys were out of line.


64 posted on 09/17/2004 10:21:30 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (John Kerry is still facing pajama-clad warriors, and receiving self-inflicted wounds...)
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To: presidio9

There's a difference between being heckled and someone saying "Let's go". If I'm in an argument with someone and they say "Let's go" (which A-Rod admitted saying) that is a pretty good indication they want to fight. If someone is just talking shit to me, then that is different.


65 posted on 09/17/2004 10:22:42 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (John Kerry is still facing pajama-clad warriors, and receiving self-inflicted wounds...)
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To: presidio9

Thanks for the Ping, that reminds me: I have to check the HBO schedule to see when they are airing "The Curse of the Bambino" again.

If you haven't seen it, as a Yankee fan, it's a MUST SEE!

1918, 1918, 1918, 1918, 1918, 1918, 1918, 1918, 1918


66 posted on 09/17/2004 10:24:04 AM PDT by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

That's not the point. I was responding to a comment that Veritek was a tough guy because he kicked Rodriguez's ass. The opposite is true. The disconnect of Red Sox fans is startling.


67 posted on 09/17/2004 10:24:17 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9

And I responded by saying that neither one are tough guys - both are just Big Kids acting stupid. And for really no reason either.


68 posted on 09/17/2004 10:26:19 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (John Kerry is still facing pajama-clad warriors, and receiving self-inflicted wounds...)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Nice straw man, but Veritek is a punk.


69 posted on 09/17/2004 10:29:38 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Nice straw man, but Veritek is a punk.


70 posted on 09/17/2004 10:29:41 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9

As a life long Red Sox fan who never misses a pitch, I can't argue with NY history. However, all great teams must fall and the Red Sox are about to stick a fork into NY. I predicted after the Yankees lost to Arizona that they will not see another World Series Title for at least 25 years. I still strongly believe that, but we will soon see a Red Sox championship in the near future.


71 posted on 09/17/2004 10:31:38 AM PDT by dougiefresh
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To: presidio9

And Pedro _ucks as a human being.

Johnny Damon looks like he needs to be de-loused, actually, the whole team needs some grooming.

The Curse of the Bambino LIVES!!!!!!


72 posted on 09/17/2004 10:32:53 AM PDT by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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To: presidio9

Both are. One just happens to be a higher paid punk.


73 posted on 09/17/2004 10:33:54 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (John Kerry is still facing pajama-clad warriors, and receiving self-inflicted wounds...)
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To: eastsider

This just in...Yankees lose the wild card series to Texas on a 9th inning home run by Alfonso Soriano.


74 posted on 09/17/2004 10:34:14 AM PDT by dougiefresh
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To: dougiefresh

Bwaaaa ha ha ha ha: NOPE! But that was funny :)


75 posted on 09/17/2004 10:35:50 AM PDT by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

But that's not what this is about. You are creating an argument where none exists.


76 posted on 09/17/2004 10:38:30 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: dougiefresh

"It's only a dream ... it's only a dream ... it's only a dream ..."


77 posted on 09/17/2004 10:40:25 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: clyde260

Pedro does suck as a human being, but you guys will all support him when he's in pin stripes next year.


78 posted on 09/17/2004 10:40:41 AM PDT by dougiefresh
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To: presidio9

What? That both men were in the wrong? That's right. This argument is about YOU claiming A-Rod is just the poor, downtrodden misunderstood innocent victim, and Varitek is a no good dirty punk.

I can admit my guy was wrong, but you can't bring yourself to say anything bad about A-Rod. That's what this is about.


79 posted on 09/17/2004 10:43:48 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (John Kerry is still facing pajama-clad warriors, and receiving self-inflicted wounds...)
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To: dougiefresh

NEVER! We actually have discussed this, and (at least in my circle of intense Yankee fans) unanamously agree that he would never be welcome by us.

He's getting close to the end anyway, him arm is turning into jello.


80 posted on 09/17/2004 10:44:43 AM PDT by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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