Posted on 09/17/2004 1:20:06 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
Procter would like to think of itself as a good corporate citizen, and it is indeed very generous. But part of good citizenship is having a real ethical basis for your decisions, and taking responsibility for what your largess ultimately supports. Way, way too often P$G hands out money to destructive local groups just to get them to go away from their Ivory Towers.
Procter would like to think of itself as a good corporate citizen, and it is indeed very generous. But part of good citizenship is having a real ethical basis for your decisions, and taking responsibility for what your largess ultimately supports. Way, way too often P$G hands out money to destructive local groups just to get them to go away from their Ivory Towers.
Ditto, Boycott it is. I started noticing that one of the soaps I occassionally watched was getting very inmoral and liberal. At the end when the credits came up they always said a Procter and Gamble production. Since, I have made it a point to avoid purchasing Procter and Gamble products anyway.
Procter and Gamble has been a "progressive", (read leftist),
corporate bully for years.
They've managed to keep a low profile until recently, but they've always been in the shadows, pulling strings for a long time.
Their most noxious act of snobbery was to have a low cost hamburger establishment torn down so the local, indigent "trash" wouldn't be seen close to their new (then)
corporate site.
They bought the hamburger business, tore it down, and built a parking lot, which was next to their multi-story parking lot across the street.......
bttt
FGS
Gave up on them long ago. Arm and Hammer is listed by Consumer Reports to be an excellent laundry soap- and it is.
mmmmmmm hamburgers
The best way to injure P&G is to point out that their products are not significantly better in quality and cost anywhere from 2 to 3 times as much as products that are just as adequate.
This is true of everything from Tide to Crest.
A whispering campaign about how expensive they are would be far more effective in injuring them.
So Dobson should not simply say, "Boycott Tide & Crest." He should say, "Folks, it is easy to boycott Tide & Crest because they COST significantly more than the other products, anyway. Join our boycott and YOU WILL SAVE money."
Incidentally, when in college I worked at one of P&G's tech labs in Cincy. (I have a degree of loyalty to them remaining, but they need to butt out of SOCIAL politics in the city.) But my job at the time put me in the direct position of comparing the performance of their products vs competitive products.
Many don't realize it, but if you could wash your clothing in distilled water, you'd get them just about as clean as with detergent. What you'd miss is the brightening agents.
There simply isn't that much difference between products. Not when 100 oz of one is on the shelf at 2.99 and Tide is on the shelf at 6.99. It's simple brand advertising that gets people to pay that much for a negligible cleaning difference.
"Their most noxious act of snobbery was to have a low cost hamburger establishment torn down so the local, indigent "trash" wouldn't be seen close to their new (then)
corporate site.
They bought the hamburger business, tore it down, and built a parking lot, which was next to their multi-story parking lot across the street......."
Not exactly. Actually, an old church was sitting on the site of the Tower Building, and the Whitecastle made way for the 6th st. Exit off I-471. Procter does not hassle it's Christian population, quite the contrary. I know, because I worked there for 16 years and my husband for 25.
I worked at the corporate headquarters as a Meeting and Event Coordinator (working directly for Mr. Lafley, and Mr. Pepper, and Mr. Dick Cheney (he was on our board). I will say their moral compass is starting to point south. Mr. Lafley is a buddy of Neutron Jack, and their is WAY TOO much euro influence.
It's gonna be tough to boycott them since they make everything on the planet.
Great points, xzins! Thank you for your insight!!!
I've been boycotting them for years for changing the formula for Head & Shoulders. I was a loyal customer for 25 years and felt pretty crapped on when they ruined my product. I can see adding variations, but keep the original for crying out loud.
Let's name names. What is an equivalent or better detergent than Tide?
Since there's so little difference between any of them, I'll just pick out Surf. Tide costs about 3 times more, so you're just not going to get that much difference in cleaning power to make up that difference in price.
Honestly, the difference are measured by highly sensitive optical devices that can see levels of brightness beyond my ability to even detect. On those machines Tide does come out better in most cases.
But at 3 times the price for a difference not detectable by the human eye...gimmeabreak.
I just reread your question -- you asked for equivalent or BETTER.
I saw equivalent and went with one that would give satisfactory performance.
As far as "better" goes, there really isn't any detergent that does better. P&G works pretty hard to keep it at the top. Within P&G the brand competition between different departments is intense. There was a time when Cheer was pushing more phosphates than Tide and was an arguably better product.
My memory says that in general phosphates performed better than silicates. Environmental concerns were pushing phosphates out of detergents...I'm not sure what became of that. I've not checked the side of boxes in a long while to see if any are still using phosphates.
I've been boycotting P&g for years now, ever since they started dissing the Boy Scouts and their stand on morality. Sent P&G an email and they pretty much said, whatever, we are worldwide. So I've switched everything. Instead of Tide I use Wisk. Instead of Downy(?) I use snuggle.
I really try to pay attention to the manufacturer and automatically pick a non-P&g product.
Ping. Tide keeps my whites white and colors colored. Considering my modest domestic abilities, that transcends politics.
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