Posted on 09/16/2004 10:16:04 PM PDT by Conservative Firster
TWO VIDEO LINKS ON RIGHT HAND SIDE PLAYLIST!!
An FBI agent shot an acquaintance of a border watch group member while trying to serve an arrest warrant, FBI officials said Thursday.
The shooting happened about 11:15 p.m. Wednesday in a grocery store parking lot in Douglas along the southeastern Arizona border with Mexico.
According to the FBI, the agent was trying to serve an arrest warrant on Casey Nethercott of Douglas. Nethercott is a known member of Ranch Rescue, a group that works to protect private property along the southern U.S. border.
Ranch Rescue and several other unauthorized groups have been patrolling along the border looking for illegal immigrants, raising concerns among migrants rights groups about potential abuses.
At the time, Nethercott was with 22-year-old Kalen Riddle, also of Douglas.
Charlene Thornton, special agent in charge of the Phoenix FBI office, said that "actions taken by Nethercott and Riddle led one of the FBI agents to fire his weapon."
The FBI would not elaborate and said it won't release the name of the agent who fired the shot, in keeping with FBI policy.
Riddle was airlifted to a Tucson hospital, but FBI officials did not know his condition.
Nethercott was arrested Wednesday and is in federal custody. An FBI spokeswoman confirmed agents searched Nethercott's Douglas ranch on Thursday afternoon.
The warrant the FBI was trying to serve alleges that Nethercott threatened Border Patrol agents.
According to the warrant, Nethercott refused to pull over for Border Patrol agents on Aug. 31. After a slow-speed chase, the warrant said that Nethercott entered "a compound in Douglas occupied by members of Ranch Rescue." Riddle was identified as one of the people there.
Agents said the Ranch Rescue members were heavily armed and had night vision equipment.
After Border Patrol agents yelled for Nethercott to show his hands, the affidavit says Nethercott refused, and responded:
"I'm going to take care of this myself, we're going to have a shootout."
The affidavit does not say how the standoff ended.
There was no listing for Riddle in Douglas. A phone message left Thursday at a residence listed for Nethercott was not returned.
Nethercott, 37, has a criminal record. He was convicted of assault with a firearm in California and was on parole when he joined Ranch Rescue.
In June, he was also found guilty by a Texas jury of felony firearm possession. The jury was deadlocked on a second charge that accused Nethercott of pistol-whipping an illegal immigrant near a Texas ranch.
Douglas rancher Roger Barnett, who is not part of Ranch Rescue, supports the measures Nethercott took to stop illegal immigration.
He compared the shooting of Riddle to Branch Davidians, who fought federal agents in Waco, Texas.
"Citizens have to get out and protect themselves," Barnett said. "And this is what it leads to."
Perouka should start a little lower, I suggest dog catcher.
Too high...there might be qualifications standards.
You caught that "compound" thing as well, eh? Tom and Patty, the anchors on the newscast that hosted the video had the good common sense to call Nethercott's place what it was, a ranch.
Of course, Lupita Murillo (video) who got us lots of footage of the pretty trucks and such used by the Border Patrol (?) apparently refused to use the word ranch and would only refer to Nethercott's ranch as "the compound." And what the heck was that weirdness with the photo stuck in the mesquite bush and on the barbed wire fence? Was that supposed to be "cool"?
Silly us. We thought the feds could not possibly be stupid enough to still be trying that propaganda demonization crap after Waco.
I suppose the feds have not changed the hiring psych test either. Doesn't look like it.
Yeah, Chris Cannon - ACU lifetime rating of 96.
Gee, I see your candidate Joe Hoeffel (ACU lifetime 6) is down 21 points to Arlen Specter.
So the Bogolyubski Conservative mantra is ... Hoeffel good - Cannon bad!
You holier than thou "real conservative" guys are beyond awareness of what idiots you've become. This is September 17. We're at war for our survival. You're pimping Hoeffel and subverting Chris Cannon.
You bozos really need to get lost.
It's a shame the Border Patrol can't be "downright scary."
Perhaps the illegal aliens would have stayed in mexico.
- Congress was going to pass a bill with or without the President. It is a matter of 150 billion more that could have been passed, and more gov intrusion.
- The only ones trying to shut people up are the dems.
- GW has denounced "all" 527's instead of just the Swift Vets. He cannot tell BY LAW any single one to act or not.
- The education was the same as the "pills" bill. There was a bill that would have been more costly.
It is the same on the immigration. GW HAS NEVER said he wanted amnesty for illegals. But on that it is like flood waters. You don't bail out water first. YOU SANDBAG to STOP more water coming in, THEN you begin to bail, or let the water that is there just kinda disperse.
The Border Patrol agents are not the problem. They can't help it if there are not enough agents to cover every square inch of the border.
The agents are doing the best they can. Remember, they are EMPLOYEES not policy makers.
Their job is made much harder by these "Law Abiding Citizens".
Please. The guy was a thug and he was nothing but trouble.
You all want to give these creeps a pass, because they are willing to pistol whip illegals. They are doing what you want to do.
Yet you make them out to be some sort of hero.
Screw that. This guy was trouble. He deserved to be shot it sounds like. There was nothing in that article to make me think he was anything but an opportunistic creep, probably beating up and intimidating illegals for money.
The ranchers probably paid this guy and his friend to "take care of things". It happens all the time.
I am so completely sick and tired of you people with immigration on your mind every single minute.
You bring that crap onto just about every thread. It doesn't have to be about immigration. You people make it about immigration.
Get a grip and stop making the law enforcement agents out to be the bad guys.
This makes me sick. Some of you are radicals and extremists and I believe you couldn't care less about the agents that are out there every day with scum like this.
Their job is amazingly difficult but do you care? You probably have no idea what they go through.
You people make me sick.
Change your diaper.
You won't get off your butt and do jack squat. You third party hominids had your chance after your Buchanan embarassment in 2000 to build an alternative and you DID NOTHING.
That's exactly what you'll do before 2008. Nothing.
You're incapable of support and investment. It's easier to be a freeloader carping on the sideline while the well intentioned, hard working and productive people get things done. Hauling your dismal ass around behind us.
Let's get this fleshed out.
Both the education bill, and the prescription drug benefit, spent money to effect STRUCTURAL change in how the money was spent. The education bill mandated a myriad of local controls and accountabilities previously nonexistant. That "Kennedy sellout" was a bait-and-switch ... on Kennedy! We have more local control, accountability and power locally than we had before that bill. That's a DEFEAT for the lefties.
The prescription drug benefit? Is there any wonder why the opposition to this bill was among DEMOCRATS and "true conservatives"? No, as we've seen here on FR, the "real conservatives" walk in lockstep with the Socialist lefties. This Drug benefit is the camels nose under the tent of privitization of Medicare. It has a "personalized" component. Why do you think Bernie Frank and FR paleos hated it? Bush watched the "Gingrich Revolution" fizzle. Watch Joe Scarborough today, that boy just don't get it. Seizing the supply of government from the American people, with no carrot, is a political loser. See the elections of 1996 and 1998. Bush understand that the way to shrink government is to shrind DEMAND for government. And he'll spend money to do it. And he does. He's undergoing a very unpopular transformation of the Pentagon. Army assholes hate it! They sure have access to the media, too, don't they. Iraq is a quagmire. We know that, because Army officers are telling ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/NYT/LAT/AP/WPost and every foreign journalist that. But, we're winning there too. F*** the Paleo nitwits around this joint. Bush is the best thing that ever happened for Conservatism.
According to the warrant, Nethercott refused to pull over for Border Patrol agents on Aug. 31. After a slow-speed chase, the warrant said that Nethercott entered "a compound in Douglas occupied by members of Ranch Rescue." Riddle was identified as one of the people there.Guys, I wonder if the Judge who signed the warrant asked why the "Border Patrol" was harrassing this guy??? Why should he pull over for these guys? Because they carry the guns? For this, a 22 year old woman is shot. All because of an obvious setup. Peace and love, George.
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Still using your childish ambush tactics I see!
And you'd consider yourself objective?!
Hell no I'm not objective. I never claimed to be.
I'm far from objective. You people are among the worst that FR has to offer.
I am personally sick of it. My ex husband risks his life every single day and you jerks do nothing but bash them.
You make me sick to my stomach.
These "facts" are going to come from where? The government? (just like they told the truth about Waco I'm sure) The media? (Like CBS's "factual" documents). Given the government's history of lying about almost everything I'd tend to believe the individual's version.
I know and I usually don't get this worked up with strangers.
Just hit me wrong tonight I suppose. I just spent a couple of hours talking to my ex the other night and he was telling me about how his house was right in the path of Ivan, but he couldn't evacuate because as a federal agent he had to work.
So, he was there doing his duty even though it was dangerous, so this stuff tonight bashing the BP didn't sit well with me.
Whew. I feel better now. (sorry about that rant)
Then I suggest you go hide under your bed.
I wish that was the case, but it isn’t.
You obviously have not clue as to the history of Ranch Rescue and Mr. Nethercott.
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