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Federal agents surround ranch in Douglas, Arizona(VIDEO!)
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| September 16, 2004 at 5:00PM MST
| KVOA-TV-Tucson/AP
Posted on 09/16/2004 10:16:04 PM PDT by Conservative Firster
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To: Conservative Firster
Depends on what "heavily armed" means. If they're a wacko militia group then I have no sympathy, however if they're merely a group of ranchers out to protect their own private property from illegals then more power to them. When the government opens the borders and gives illegals more rights than citizens, then it's up to the people to protect their own.
To: Hank Rearden
" So why has there been zero pressure on Bush to shape up? "Praying" for him to reform after he's reelected is far too late. He needs to be scared of losing his job now." Thank you. I was beginning to think that I was the only one still saying it.
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posted on
09/16/2004 11:01:51 PM PDT
by
Badray
(Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
To: BnBlFlag; B4Ranch; Hank Rearden
We need to mount an intense campaign to put pressure on Bush to do somthing about the border.The problem with this is that both major political parties WANT illegals streaming into our country.
The FTAA has 27 nations signed up that will create an 'E.U.' of the Western Hemisphere. Most of those countries speak Spanish.
What are the chances that a hemispheric government will speak English?
The big picture says they are consciously 'Hispanicizing' North America to ease harmonizing a future governmental structure.
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posted on
09/16/2004 11:05:10 PM PDT
by
JOAT
To: mtbopfuyn
To: Hop A Long Cassidy
"Ditto, hold your nose and vote for Bush... unless it gets too bad on the immigration front." I remember that we held our noses 4 years ago. The pubbies told us to give him a gop House and Senate and we'd get what we wanted. We held up our end of the deal. This year, I'm not holding my nose.
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posted on
09/16/2004 11:10:44 PM PDT
by
Badray
(Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
To: FITZ
Sometimes I wonder if the DEA undercover guys, posing as runners, aren't working for FBI undercover guys, posing as financiers who work for NSA guys posing as enforcers who work for CIA guys posing as whatever: and nobody knows who anybody else is. Which is why warrants for narco-terrorists aren't going anywhere: at every hearing, there's a call from Washington, "Yer Honor, he's one of ours."
Shoot, mebbe the US is running the cartels, and they don't know it. (compartmentalization n' such.)
Humor...sort of.
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posted on
09/16/2004 11:12:35 PM PDT
by
dasboot
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To: Conservative Firster
Sure looks like a wacko militia to me.
With all the flags and patriotic stuff and whatnot.
"wacko militia" was a concept and a term coined during the Clintoon's administration, no?
Time to undo the programming people...
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posted on
09/16/2004 11:14:04 PM PDT
by
1_Inch_Group
(I've had all I can stands.....and I can't stands no more.)
To: Hank Rearden
For all your reasons I too will hold my nose while voting. Sad that he drifted into the haze fog of the "middle ground." Oh well we can only hope his political roots on the right will pull him back when/if he gets reelected.
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posted on
09/16/2004 11:16:48 PM PDT
by
JSteff
To: dasboot
Nethercott is a convicted felon and was arrested earlier for being in possession of a firearm, I show nothing on Riddle. Without going into detail, there is more to this story than what is in this article.
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posted on
09/16/2004 11:22:04 PM PDT
by
eastforker
(Maybe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure what I said is what I meant_John Kerry)
To: Conservative Firster
According to the warrant, Nethercott refused to pull over for Border Patrol agents on Aug. 31. After a slow-speed chase, the warrant said that Nethercott entered "a compound in Douglas occupied by members of Ranch Rescue." Riddle was identified as one of the people there. What reason and/or authority would the Border Patrol have to pull over an American citizen. Was he illegally crossing the border?
It sounds like the Border Patrol was acting as local cops.
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posted on
09/16/2004 11:22:50 PM PDT
by
niki
To: Jack Black
What's with the Mayor in the video?
"Maybe there will be a positive development and we can move 'these people' out of here. They've confronted the Mexican Army. They are real confrontational."
Well maybe if our @$%$&^#% law enforcement officials did their jobs, American citizens wouldn't have to go out and do the job themselves.
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posted on
09/16/2004 11:23:19 PM PDT
by
Badray
(Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
To: dasboot
Humor...sort of. According to our own State Department, $2.66 billion a year gets spent on bribes to assist human smuggling on the Mexican border.
Source.
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posted on
09/16/2004 11:28:35 PM PDT
by
JackelopeBreeder
(Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
To: Conservative Firster
This isn't agood idea right now... AT ALL!!
To: Conservative Firster
To: Conservative Firster
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To: niki
They may not have known, at the time of the pursuit, who he was. As long as they had a reasonable suspicion that he was involved in activity which it is the BP's duty to investigate, and they were within jurisdiction, they are OK.
I imagine an unknown M/V in a border area, furtively operated, would arouse suspicion....mules and jumpers are not unlikely to be operating stolen M/V's, yes? If he had stopped, he might have been all set; but he prolly had a snootfull, and thought they were the local constables, or he had some firearms in the car and didn't want a hassle...understandable: you never know who's behind the badge.
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posted on
09/16/2004 11:32:38 PM PDT
by
dasboot
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To: Conservative Firster
So typical of the FBI/F Troop, that they:
**won't release information about the patient's condition;
**won't release the name of the shooter;
**will release negative information about the person they shot.
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posted on
09/16/2004 11:34:04 PM PDT
by
Byron_the_Aussie
(http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
To: All
To: Conservative Firster
The problem with cases like this, is that the FBI has so discredited themselves, that it is nearly impossible to believe a word they say.
At Waco they stated, "We never fired a shot after we took over from the BATF." The only way that would be true is if they brought in special forces to fire the automatic weapons that were fired into the rear of the farmhouse as it went up in flames.
Once again they stated that there were no guns on the helicopters. Once they were revealed to be lying about that, they admitted that there were guns, but not mounted guns.
The BATF obtained the use of military helicopters and tanks by lying about there being drugs at the Waco farmhouse.
It was stated that no grenades were used at the farmhouse. It was also stated that the FBI did not start the fire that burned the building down. The problem is, two shock grenades were found in the areas where the fires started. Those grenades are known to cause fires.
The FBI testified that shock grenades are not lethal, before Congress. That was shown to be a lie as well.
I grew up reading stories about the FBI, idolizing their members as much as I did baseball players. I had a natural desire to respect them, because my father 1500 miles away was a law enforcement officer. It took a lot to get me to change my mind. Ruby Ridge, TWA 800 and Waco did it for me. I will never trust them again.
Reagan used to say trust but verify. In the case of the FBI, I now say, don't trust, and verify everything. I rather be alive than dead right.
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posted on
09/16/2004 11:47:33 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
To: dasboot
They may not have known, at the time of the pursuit, who he was. As long as they had a reasonable suspicion that he was involved in activity which it is the BP's duty to investigate, and they were within jurisdiction, they are OK. I think it is a pretty safe bet, the BP knew who the guy was. They aren't his biggest fan.
By the limit account given, it seems they knew who he was.
It will be interesting to hear the details.
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posted on
09/16/2004 11:49:30 PM PDT
by
niki
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