[MarMema]

Oh good, JR Nyquist. He's a great Russian hater. He was writing books about Russia years ago. It's like using what Michael Moore says about Bush to make your point. In other words, worthless.

[Luis Gonzalez]

There are reasons why people hate Russian totalitarianism:

62 million people killed

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The Soviet Union exemplifies the dictum that government is a mechanism by which depraved people legitimize their depravity. As an all-powerful state, the Soviet government attracted the most depraved people who then unleashed the worst depravity. Stalin is unique only in surpassing all others in this regard.

The Soviet death toll- those murdered in cold blood by people working for the Soviet government- exceeds, nearly doubles, the combined total of people killed in all of the 20th century's wars.

• Millions were sent to the Gulags, Soviet concentration camps, where perhaps 20% of all prisoners died. Countless others suffered the drug-torture of the so-called "psychiatric hospitals," where resistance was legal proof of the need for more "treatment."

• In 1919, hundreds of thousands of Don Cossacks were slaughtered in wholesale murder.

• In the 1930s, the Soviet secret police issued death quotas to its regional departments. The quotas were filled with indiscriminate killing. Mothers who came to police headquarters to inquire about their arrested sons could be taken outside and shot to help fill the quotas. Children were murdered for the crimes of their parents.

• From 1932-1933, five million Ukrainian peasants died in forced starvation. The Soviet government stationed troops to actively prevent anyone from escaping the famine. Doctors and relief supplies were kept out by force. The famine was a long, deliberate plan to make people dead by creating and maintaining conditions in which they could not obtain food.

• From 1930-1937, Soviets carried out the systematic murder of 6,500,000 "kulaks," lower middle class peasants.

• From 1937-1938, perhaps a million Communists were murdered by Stalin in the Great Terror.

• In 1949, deportation and genocide of some 50,000-60,000 Estonians.

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  Soviet democide from 1917-1991
  Total:	61,911,000
  Terror:	8,298,000
  Deportations:	4,349,000+
  Concentration Camps:	39,464,000
  Forced Famine	7,833,000

  (death totals for concentration camps include transit deaths.)

  Period

  Years

  Total killed

  Civil War

  From 1917

  3,284,000
  

  Terror:	750,000
  Concentration Camps:	34,000
  Forced Famine :	2,500,000

  NEP

  1923

  2,200,000

  Collectivization

  1929

  11,440,000
  

  Terror:	1,733,000
  Deportations:	1,400,000
  Concentration Camps:	3,306,000
  Forced Famine :	5,000,000

  Great Terror

  1936

  4,345,000
  

  Terror:	1,000,000
  Deportations:	65,000
  Concentration Camps:	3,280,000

  Pre-WWII

  1939

  5,104,000
  

  Terror:	1,932,000
  Deportations:	283,000
  Concentration Camps:	2,889,000

  World War II

  1941

  13,053,000
  

  Terror:	1,257,000
  Deportations:	1,036,000
  Concentration Camps:	10,761,000

  Post-War

  1946

  15,613,000
  

  Terror:	1,376,000
  Deportations:	1,557,000
  Concentration Camps:	12,348,000

  Post-Stalin

  1954

  6,872,000
  

  Terror:	250,000
  Deportations:	8,000
  Concentration Camps:	6,613,000