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To: CWOJackson; kosta50; Destro
The double headed eagle is a very old symbol and has much spiritual meaning for the Russian Orthodox.
Again you post in ignorance. It comes from Constantinople, not the Soviet Union.

eagle

"The orgin of the double-headed eagle 'motif' which appeared in Byzantium after the 12th century and was adopted by a number of the principal noble families at that time; later being assumed by several imperial houses, such as in Russia, and states such as Serbia."

See the cross and Saint George on it? Not of the USSR, sorry to once again burst your bubble.

118 posted on 09/16/2004 5:21:03 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

A Putin is an ex-KGB agent who comes from the Soviet Union and wants to restore it to power.


119 posted on 09/16/2004 5:22:25 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: MarMema; CWOJackson; Destro
Hah! Warrant Officer Jackson -- reading up on some history before making statements is highly recommended. The Russian tricolor has been around a lot longer than the drunk called Yeltsin who would have sold Russian to the lowest bidder had he not been deposed. And all that for a few bottles of Stolichnaya.

Doubled headed eagle is the symbol of Orthodoxy, and comes from Constantinople, the seat of the Orthodox Church. It has been around much longer than the Soviet Union.

The Glinka music (have you ever listed to is until now? I doubt it!) is like a lullaby -- it puts you to sleep. Would you ever want your country to have music like that one for the national anthem? Oh, excuse me, you wouldn't know because you obviously never heard it before.

Marmema, Destro -- have you noticed the sentence "Garry Kasparov believes that Russia should unite with Europe. "This union [with Europe] would be important to the Russian nation for social and economic reasons. The traditions of the European democracy and the relative economic stability will help Russia become a modern state?"

This sounds like those idiots in Belgrade who think that if you dress like a German you must be German! Kind of scares you that this is coming from a champion chess player. That's why computer chess is so successful. No soul.

Physically joining European Union will not change Russian way of life any more than creating a North Atlantic alliance dominated by America made Europeans anything resembling Americans.

Traditions of the European democracy? What is a "tradition" nowadays? Anything older than you can remember I suppose? Kaspar must not remember that barely 50 years ago, democracy was all but alive in Europe and that even demcoracies were not as democratic as we think they ought to be. Why England of the 1930's and 1940's would be considered racist and prejudiced, sexist and colonialist to the degree that it would warrant sanctions to force it to change its evil ways! Spain, Italy, Germany, east European kingdoms and so on could hardly be considered democracies even if they had nominal parliaments. The Kingdom of Yugoslavia was officially a royal dictatorship since 1929, yet many a Serb will tell you about the Serbian democratic 'tradition.'

It amazes me how many people just simply spew meaningless words and wrong information into the Internet and even have no shame to put their name behind it.

242 posted on 09/16/2004 8:51:35 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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