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Chess player Garry Kasparov blames Putin for destroying democracy in Russia
Pravda.ru ^ | 09/16/2004

Posted on 09/16/2004 2:22:02 PM PDT by Lukasz

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To: MarMema

A basic question:
Do you accept even a single thaught, that there might be anything wrong in Russia, except of harsch winters and lack of electricity that occurs sometimes in some small villages in Siberia???


81 posted on 09/16/2004 4:33:03 PM PDT by lizol
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To: MarMema
"The Orthodox church is hardly a cult..."

Putin is hardly a decent man...he is an unrepentant Soviet dragging Russia back into the dark ages.

82 posted on 09/16/2004 4:33:37 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
The story of The Russian Orthodox Church And Its New Convert, President Putin

"Speaking to the press during his visit, Putin delivered something approaching a sermon on the importance of religion in public life."

83 posted on 09/16/2004 4:34:05 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: CWOJackson
Putin is hardly a decent man...he is an unrepentant Soviet dragging Russia back into the dark ages.

Says you and your liberal whiner friends.

84 posted on 09/16/2004 4:36:50 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

"Anna Politkovskaya. A sad woman badly in need of medication."

Yeah. And I've heard that she's being given some medicines even when she has no idea about it - like on a plane when flying to Beslan.


85 posted on 09/16/2004 4:36:55 PM PDT by lizol
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To: MarMema
If you elected to read what he's saying everywhere else you will find that the only thing he considered important in his life was the Soviet Union. Which is why he is moving to take over the government and restore it to it's old status.

It will be interesting just how tolerant he will be of the church when he restores the Soviet.

86 posted on 09/16/2004 4:37:03 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: lizol
Do you accept even a single thaught, that there might be anything wrong in Russia, except of harsch winters and lack of electricity that occurs sometimes in some small villages in Siberia???

Absolutely. They treat orphans terribly, many of the Russians, more than most, and their medical care is very poor quality.

They still have a long way to go in terms of getting rid of the old mafia Yeltsin supported and allowed to flourish.

87 posted on 09/16/2004 4:38:34 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

My post was sarcasm, I hope your was too.


88 posted on 09/16/2004 4:41:27 PM PDT by lizol
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To: CWOJackson
If you elected to read what he's saying everywhere else

But this is untrue and you neglect to support this with links showing the sources.

Russia has always had a strong central state, even before the USSR. I have posted quote after quote here showing this was part of Putin's beliefs and agenda way before Beslan, even. The Russians know and accept this.

The Soviet Union produced some of the greatest literature and music, ballet, opera, in the world. To completely dismiss it as a huge mistake is to tell Russians that everything they love, from the Bolshoi Ballet, the world-celebrated and incredible-beyond-words Moscow Circus, Rimsky-Korsakov, and the state Balalaika orchestra, is not important. Yet it is a part of them at every level.

You have no understanding of the Russian culture whatsoever. You view everything from your eyes without the ability to see their view.

I at least have traveled there many times, took two semesters of their language, worship weekly or more often in their ancient language, and spend time with many friends from Russia. I am not Russian but I believe I understand Putin far better than you do.

89 posted on 09/16/2004 4:45:17 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: lizol
I hope your was too.

It was not. We have personally helped several families from southern Russia move here, by putting up our entire retirement savings to the US immigration dept for about 3 years.

My oldest daughter came here because she was horribly cared for in Russia, with a serious spinal cord disease and terribly deformed feet.

90 posted on 09/16/2004 4:47:23 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema
The ABC of Soviet resurrections and the militarizing of society under Putin

Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003

The ABC of Soviet resurrections and the militarizing of society under Putin Elisabeth Sieca-Kozlowski, Editor Post-Soviet Armies Newsletter, www.psan.org/

With the start of a new year, a quick review of the start of the Putin era is in order.

The Russian military institution per se and the population as a whole are witnessing a return to functions and practices of the not so distant Soviet past. Not surprising, considering that Vladimir Putin's fondness for Soviet values was evidenced from the start with his choice of the Soviet national anthem over a sweeter air by a 19th century composer.

These resurrections of the Soviet regime, some already under way in Yeltsin's day, have been endorsed and put in place by V. Putin and indicate a clear determination to return to the old order. They are part of a social militarization project whose ideological framework was nailed down in the patriotic campaign launched in February 2001.

Thus, little known to the West, Putin is rapidly re-militarizing Russian society. In less than four months after his election (between December 1999 and March 2000), Putin issued 12 presidential decrees, six of them dealing with the army. The first legislative measure taken by his government re-established military training in secondary schools. As for alternative service, the first young man who claimed his right before a Putin court was sent to prison. Now finally adopted, civil service in fact resembles a prison term more than anything else. The return of military training for deputies and civil servants is Putin's work, as are the frequent military training periods for reserve officers. Under Yeltsin, there had been practically no training for reserve officers.

Along with the large-scale implantation mainly under Putin of military-oriented vacation camps, the Putin era has also featured an effort on the part of the Education ministry to promote a reform (enthusiastically supported by the military leadership) that would have lengthened the 10-year school curriculum to twelve, with the result that boys would finish school at 18 without having had the time to try to integrate universities which could exempt them from military service.

The resurrection of political officers in the army and of an code of honor for officers are the latest in a long list of measures brought back to life from the panoply of Soviet practices.

A,B,C...

ADOPTION OF ORPHANS BY THE MILITARY In November 1997, the army embarked on a plan to take under its wing the thousands of orphans and children from single parent families left more or less to their own devices. This initiative on the part of the army was in answer to an appeal by the minister of Defense to the officers of the Russian armed forces. Aimed at the armed forces' humanitarian tradition faced with the number of abandoned children, it called for the creation of sports clubs, music clubs, and the sponsoring of children by military units [Krasnaja Zvezda, 25 November 1997]. This measure was inspired by the project of Felix Dzerzinskij (head of the secret police), who in the 1920s and on the order of Lenin, created an Emergency Commission responsible for taking charge of orphans, who later came to form the majority of NKVD officers. This tradition became law by presidential decree in February 2000, and the units of the Minister of Defense, known as "force" units, can now adopt orphans or fatherless children aged 14 or over and keep them until they are of adult age by enrolling them as trainees in military units.[AP, February 19 2000, via JRL#4146, "Russia's Putin decries rise in orphan numbers].

BASIC MILITARY TRAINING RESTORED IN SCHOOLS (NVP)

In September 1999, the reintroduction of Basic Military Training courses (NVP) in secondary schools was officially ratified. First set up in 1968, basic military training courses in the secondary schools had two functions: socialization (the reinforcement of lessons in Soviet patriotism and respect for the armed forces) and military training. They were suppressed in 1991 and replaced by First Aid courses. Today, although in actual fact the reintroduction of NVP has been only partially implemented, it nonetheless constitutes a significant stage in the Yeltsin-inspired social project.

COSSACK TRAINING CAMPS FOR CHILDREN

It is quite remarkable that no sooner were the Cossacks rehabilitated than along with their integration into the army and force structures they took part in the military training of youth. In fact, decree number 341 of 13 March 1993, "On the reform of military structures, frontier and interior forces in the northern Caucasus region of the Russian Federation and state support of the Cossacks", not only authorized Cossacks to participate in the maintenance of order, but gave them the right to organize youth training programs for the military service. Training camps, in other words summer camps with a military orientation, were quick to flourish in traditionally Cossack regions. At the end of 1999, Russia had more than 30 cadet corps (outside those of the force ministries) [Nezavissimoe Voennoe Obozrenie, n°48, 10-16 December 1999, p.3].

CREATION OF MILITARY MEDIA TO PROMOTE MILITARY-PATRIOTIC EDUCATION

In November 2002, The Defense Ministry has developed a plan to create its own military media outlets to promote "the military-patriotic education and preparation of the citizens of the Russian Federation," strana.ru and other Russian news agencies reported on 20 November. The Defense Ministry has asked the Media Ministry to "consider the possibility of allowing the use of the 57th television-radio channel for the interests of all the security agencies." [RFE/RL 21 November 2002].

GENERAL MUSTER

Revived in Autumn 2002, the first annual muster took place in the Ulianovsk region. It consitutes the first exercise of such a scale in contemporary Russia. It was revived to keep the population in constant mobilization readiness and enhance Russia's defense potential. Governor Vladimir Shamanov (former commanding officer of the Russian troops in Chechnya), along with heads of municipal entities, large enterprises and organizations, and military commissars were involved in the muster. The muster was planned to help to draw new legislation to create a new mobilization system of the new Russia.

Quotation:

Governor Vladimir Shamanov: "I want to remind you once again that each enterprise, regardless of the form of ownership, should have mobilization plans, suiting an enterprise's own opportunities and demands of the Armed Forces. The plans should obligatorily account for one of the main tasks - production facilities for prosecution of war (...)". [Source : V. Silantyev, "If war comes tomorrow", in Narodnaya Gazeta (Ulianovsk), November 15, 2002, pp. 1,6, Via WPS Defence and Security, No.136, November 25, 2002]

MILITARY CAMPS FOR CHILDREN UNDER THE PATRONAGE OF THE MILITARY AND THE CHURCH

The army, which is now in need of an ideological basis , has created ties with the church, which offers an alternative to Soviet ideology due to its patriotic stance. Although the Ministry of Defense and the Church signed cooperation agreements in the early 1990s, there are no (to our knowledge) official agreements concerning specific joint action towards youth; nevertheless the church has been organizing, for already several years, hand in hand with the ministry of Defense, summer military training camps for children.

Quotation: Metropolitan Pitirim, a senior figure in the Moscow Orthodox Patriarche was quoted in 2000 as saying that "children should be taught to love the smell of barracks and soldiers' boots " [The Electric Telegraph, 13 February 2000, Guy Chazan, « Putin restart military training for Schoolboys », selected by Johnson Russia List, # 4104].

MILITARY TRAINING FOR CIVIL SERVANTS

Since 2001, a new fashion has been emerging among regional officers : doing active duty training stints. Nizhniy Novgorod, Bryansk and Maritime civil servants have begun (étreiner) their military training. They have not been called from reserve. A tradition has been revived that every year heads of local administrations, of districts and cities get together to do some firing practice, to talk to the military, to reminisce about their own service in the army...

The trend for high ranked civil servants to undergo military training was introduced in Automn 2000 by the commander of the Northern Caucasus Military District Gennady Troshin. Troshin ordered that all officials from Southern Russia attend training near Rostov-on-Don. " The turn out was not impressive : only Aleksandr Chernogorov turned up. Chernogorov was preparing himself for the gubernatorial elections in the Stavropol Region and wanted to emphasize his ties with Vladimir Putin, perhaps the most devoted advocate of military training among Russian politicians". [Source : Gazeta.ru 9 February 2001].

MILITARY TRAINING FOR JOURNALISTS IN CONFLICT ZONES

In April 2002, the military has offered the possibility for journalists covering conflicts zones to undergo military training to learn how to fire all types of weapons. The program of this training is, according to Anatoli Kvashnin, being worked out together with the Union of Journalists ans the Association of Military Press.

MILITARY TRAINING FOR RESERVE OFFICERS

The practice of frequent military training of reserve officers was restored after Putin was elected president. There were almost no training exercises for reserve officers during Yeltsins presidency.

MILITARY TRAINING FOR STATE DUMA DEPUTIES

Since 2001, deputies are summoned once or twice a year. According to their number, they are trained separately, or sent to regular units. They are obliged to undergo training exercises, to practice shooting, throwing grenades and crawling under barbed wire, like the rest Russias male population. Only after training will they are promoted to higher military ranks. Nevertheless, the success of this measure is rather low. Only very few show up.

Quotation:

[Sergey Darkin, Maritime Territory governor] "I want our heads of administrations to be real men and to carry out a function that they have had from birth - that of being defenders of their motherland (...)". [Source: TVS, Moscow, in Russian 1100 gmt 2 Oct 02, via BBC monitoring service]

MILITARY SUMMER CAMPS FOR KIDS

In 1982, facing mounting casualties among inexperienced conscripts in Afghanistan, an experimental military unit (Kaskad) was set up where 10 years old troops were learning survival skills, shootings, and-to-hand combat. The war in Afghanistan is over but Kaskad still exists and many other camps have mushroomed. Since 1982, 8 000 children have passed through Kaskad alone.

POLITICAL OFFICER (THE RETURN OF)

Though it went unnoticed in December 1999, the re-establishment of the rank of "general-polkovnik" in the Educational Directorate heralded the return of the Zampolits to Russian military life. Victor Azarov thus became the first Head of Political Officers Head of the Educational Directorate) of the post-Soviet period. [V. Ermoline, "Armiou Povychaiout v zvanii", Izvestia, 22 February 2000, p.3].

In August 2001, Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov issued a directive calling for the re-establishment of the posts of Deputy Commander of Political Work (in charge of political work and human resources) in the various army corps. The Military University (formerly the military-political Lenin Academy, renamed The Humanitarian Academy of the Armed Forces), past experts in the field, would once again take charge of training these specialists.

The appointment on June 28, 2002 of General Reznik to the Directorate of Political Work (officially the Directorate of Educational Work) confirmed the return of an institution created during the civil war and abolished just after the attempted coup d'État in November 1991. Some 320 generals out of 345 had then quit their posts, and the post-Soviet army brought in a few "vospitateli" (educators)  officers in charge of dealing directly with problems of morale, socialization and motivation. At the time, the careers of these officers went no further than the rank of colonel (a function existing only at the divisions level and lower). Now they can become generals: 55 new posts at the rank of general are to be opened up in the army.

Quotation:

A senior officer told the INTERFAX news agency that "Reinforcement of the whole system of educational work is under way. This is an attempt to restore its former influence (!!! Author) in all spheres of life of the troops" [Source : Vadim Solovyev, "Politorgany Vozvrashtshaiutsia (Political bodies return), Nezavissimoe Voennoe Obozrenie, 6-12 September 2002, p. 1.]

PROGRAM FOR PATRIOTIC INDOCTRINATION OF THE POPULATION FOR THE YEARS 2001-2005

The patriotic campaign launched by the government in February 2001 lay down the ideological framework drawn up in the preceding years. The six million dollar campaign aimed at promoting patriotic feelings thanks to a program (Program for patriotic indoctrination of the population for the years 2001-2005, [Izvestia, 23 February 2001]) spread over a five-year period and mobilizing the army, the schools, and the media for the purpose of helping Russians regain confidence in themselves and contribute to the "essential spiritual values of the Russian people" ["Russia's school for patriots", AFP, 15 March 2001]. According to Rossiiskaia Gazeta, the official government newspaper, the program will contribute to "the consolidation of society and the renewal of patriotism", and at the same time "stimulate the interest of young people in military service" [Rossiiskaia Gazeta, 15 March 2001].

Quotation:

Interview of Duma Deputy Defense Committee Chairman on Need for Patriotic Indoctrination and Military Courses in Schools:

-Correspondent: "By the way, how do matters stand regarding military-patriotic indoctrination in Kurgan Oblast ? You are a deputy from that oblast."

-Bezborodov: "In the oblast, the regional Program for Patriotic Indoctrination of the Population for the Years 2001-2005 is actively working. It is being realized by organs of executive authority, military commissariats, educational institutions, and social organizations. School museums, combat fame rooms, and classes with a military-patriotic orientation are all working for [the military-patriotic] indoctrination of the young people of Kurgan. (...) Moreover, classes with a military-professional orientation are in session in all rayons of the oblast and each rayon has a training center for military service training for young people who are unemployed and who are not students". [Source : Krasnaya Zvezda, 16 December 2002].

RED BANNER

In December 2000, Putin signed a decree restoring the red banner as the Russian Army's official flag.

RED STAR

At the request of the Defense ministry, the restoration of the Red Star as the symbol on the military's red banner is being currently examined by the Douma.

SHEFSTVO (PATRONAGE)

"Shevstvo" is a form of voluntary aid which consists in the donation of warm clothes, provisions, books and money. It was part of a campaign meant to promote "the unity of the army and the people". It was "voluntary", but refusal to participate led to unpleasant consequences which could go as far as losing one's job. Beginning with the 1930s, these donations were made only to local sections of the DOSAAF (Society of Volunteers to Aid the Army and the Fleet), which also received a "symbolic sum of money" from all employees and students. In actual fact, this practice never stopped, though it did take on looser forms later on. However, when the Soviet Union broke up and regional units began having financial difficulties, the practice became intensified. Strongly encouraged today by the government and the military leadership, it is presented as a way of rekindling the patriotic flame, of enhancing the image of the army, and of strengthening the links between civilians and the military.

SOYUZMOL (REINCARNATION OF SOVIET YOUTH LEAGUE)

The failed attempt to revive the Komsomol in April 2000, with the creation of a youth league baptised Soyuzmol, constitutes the first attempt to create a mass organisation in 10 years, after the breakup of the Soviet Union. One of the slogans of the organization was : "Civic, patriotic and personal responsibility of each member of the union". The date of the first congress was set for 29 October, the birthday of Komsomol. Supported by V. Putin, the idea of the organization was ment to unite the youth forces behind the new president whose policy it supported.

VOLUNTARY PEOPLE'S MILITIA (DOBROVOLNYYE DRUZHINY) AND PUBLIC SUPPORT TO POLICE

In some regions of Russia, attempts to restore "Dobrovlnye narodnye druzhiny" have been made since 2001. That body of auxiliary volunteers existed from 1958 until the collapse of the Soviet Union. "Given the absence of legal basis and the lack of material incentive, these variant of "neighbourhood watch" initiatives seem to remain very localised and not very popular, despite widespread claims of the need for more security and control. The development of neighbourhood committees has been giving the way to other form of grassroots policing, such as prevention committees (soviet profilaktiki) among local active people of one neighbourhood up to community centres aimed at ensuring public security in a broader sense than the sole law enforcement aspect" [Insight Vol. 2, Issue 3, Anne Le Huérou, "Questioning "ordinary policing" and local law enforcement in contemporary Russia"].

ZARNITSA (SUMMER LIGHTNING)

The Zarnitsa game was revived last year in Moscow (Zarnitsa-Orlenok 2002). During this military-patriotic game, (that lasted two weeks in the Soviet Union) kids are turned (voluntarily) into defenders of the Motherland, they live in the barracks, are blessed by the church. The 19th Regiment of the Internal Troops near Moscow hosted and trained the participants and organized the first post-Soviet Zarnitsa.

CONCLUSION

To judge by the minimal amount of protest, such resurgences of the Soviet past seem have made little impression on civil society. Putin does not face significant opposition to its program to militarize Russia's educationnal system and public sphere. One is forced to admit that Soviet era practices remain deeply entrenched in the mentality of civil and military players alike, and that what we are seeing in Russia today -- above and beyond strategies for "consolidating society and restoring patriotism" or "stimulating young people's interest in military service" (in other words : save the draft system through indoctrination), -- is a project for an armed society ready to be mobilized as a whole and defend itself against half the world.

Foreign to the idea of a professional army, as to the western idea of modernity, Russia still clings to mobilization principles as they existed in the USSR. And to practices, among which that of keeping count of the number of horses on Russian Federation's soil.

However, it must also be said that the return of political workers in the army and the resurrection of an officer's code of honor (strongly reminiscent of the Communist code of honor) are more than just the sign of a Soviet comeback: both are an indication that the military leadership is powerless faced with an army that is falling apart.

At the same time, despite the limited effect of certain measures (financial problems hinder the setting up of NVPs in schools and the holding of "Zarnitsas" ; few deputies in the end having answered the call), the spirit of general mobilization is a cause for concern, as is, with the war in Chechnya still on, the militarizing of young people.

Quotation: "President Putin has spoken out publicly about the need to improve civilian attitudes toward - and participation in - the Russian military. In comments relayed by RIA Novosti, Putin affirmed his support for the introduction of "military preparation" into school curricula, calling such a move both "necessary and useful." He added, however, that in order to make people less fearful of joining the army, it would be necessary to carry out military reform and to use volunteers for service in dangerous spots. The Russian president also revealed that, following the August 1999 incursion into Dagestan by Islamist rebels from Chechnya, the Russian government was "one step" away from ordering a total mobilization of troops for a large-scale war (Editor ESK)" [Russian Reform Monitor, 5 October 2002, "Putin presses for support of military].

Elisabeth Sieca-Kozlowski Editor Post-Soviet Armies Newsletter

91 posted on 09/16/2004 4:47:52 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: lizol
This woman is pro-chechen and a traitor to her own country.

The equivalent of Kerry, in fact. She puts down her own military at every chance and supports the islamic radicals in chechnya who brutally kidnap and kill children.

Be careful who you find sympathy for.

92 posted on 09/16/2004 4:51:09 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema
Putin lays blame with corruption, breakup of Soviet Union for ``full-scale'' terrorist war on Russia

Saturday September 04, 2004

By ALEX NICHOLSON

MOSCOW (AP) Russian newspapers carried harrowing photos Saturday of the bloody climax of the school hostage-taking by militants demanding independence for Chechnya, but carefully avoided assigning blame.

Russian state television, heavily controlled by Putin's Kremlin, shied away from in-depth coverage, prompting a newspaper commentator to chide the electronic media for seemingly trying to avoid broadcasting the horrendous scenes being playing out in North Ossetia.

Yet, President Vladimir Putin who stayed out of view during the crisis broke silence Saturday with a somber 10-minute address to the nation in which he blamed police corruption and the collapse of the Soviet Union for an inadequate response to what he called a ``full-scale'' terrorist war against Russia.

The former KGB spy, whose get-tough policy in the war against Chechen rebels vaulted him to the presidency five years ago, took no personal responsibility for the bloodbath that left more than 340 dead more than half of them children.

Many of the casualties came as Russian forces stormed the school after, according to most accounts, rebels inside set off massive explosions and opened fire. Russian and North Ossetian authorities said there were 10 Arabs among the rebel force that numbered about 30.

The absence of television coverage of the hostage tragedy prompted Izvestia newspaper commentator Irina Petrovskaya to slam state-controlled Channel One and Rossiya television for continuing to broadcast as normal for the first hour during the storming of the school with more than 1,000 frantic hostages inside children and adults. Channel One finally broke the silence by reporting on the situation for just 10 minutes.

``After which, as if nothing had happened, it started showing the latest episode of 'Women in Love,''' Petrovskaya wrote.

Even as the death toll climbed, analysts doubted that the huge loss of life would force Putin to rethink his policy of refusing to enter into negotiations with rebel representatives to end the 10-year war in the breakaway Russian republic of Chechnya. Instead, Putin pledged to wipe the insurgents out. "p> ``Terrorists believe that they are stronger than us, that they may scare us with their cruelty, paralyze our will and demoralize our society,'' Putin said in his speech. ``To surrender would be to allow Russia to be destroyed and broken up in the hope that then finally they would leave us in peace.''

Putin said the collapse of the Soviet Union weakened the nation and left it unable to respond effectively to terrorism while corruption had pervaded the law enforcement agencies.

``Our country which used to have the strongest defense system of its external borders instantly became unprotected from either the West or the East,'' he said.

As for negative public opinion swaying the Russian boss, observers expressed a Russian cynicism born of living for hundreds of years under the Czars and seven decades under Communist commissars who never consulted their people.

``Domestic public opinion is not a significant factor. After all, it's Ossetian children who were killed and xenophobia is very high in our country,'' said Leonid Sedov, a political analyst. ``Perhaps if they had blown up the State Duma (parliament) then they might think about changing policy.''

Even the lack of official censorship, observers feel, won't force a change in policy in the Caucasus despite the horrific end to the school takeover.

``There will be some angry words in the press, but that's all,'' said Pavel Felgenhauer, an independent defense analyst based in Moscow.

While Russian officers said they had not planned to storm the building and only acted after explosions were heard inside, there were skeptics.

Felgenhauer said the presence of an attack helicopter immediately after the first explosions demonstrated that the attack had been calculated long in advance.

The analyst Sedov said the wave of supportive statements by foreign leaders showed Putin had secured the sympathy of the West, guaranteeing the Kremlin leader would not soften.

``The policy in Chechnya will be continued. Putin isn't showing flexibility. His words about needing to save the children were aimed at getting sympathy from the West, which he has done,'' Sedov said.

As authorities were counting the dead, and relatives of hostages frantically searched through lists of the names of survivors, Putin told the nation: ``We showed weakness, and weak people are beaten.''

The Russian leader also told them Russia must mobilize to face the threat of terrorism and Russians could not continue living in a ``carefree'' way a curious admonition in a nation with Russia's tragic history of foreign invasions and Communist dictatorship that has cost millions of lives.

Earlier Saturday Putin flew to Beslan, in the southern republic of North Ossetia, before dawn, visiting hospitalized victims, stopping at one point to stroke the head of one injured child and the arm of the school principal. He also ordered the borders of North Ossetia sealed while security forces searched for the militants' accomplices.

North Ossetians complained that his visit was too little, too late.

``Putin arrived and left in the middle of the night while everyone is sleeping, probably because he was afraid to talk with the people, to look them in the eyes,'' said Zalina Gutiyeva, 37, a pediatrician in Vladikavkaz, capital of North Ossetia.

Irina Volgokova, 33, whose close friend and the friend's daughter were missing, also scoffed at the visit.

``Why didn't he come earlier? .... Why did he come in the middle of the night?'' Volgokova said. ``He is the head of our country. He should answer for this before the people.''

(Copyright 2004 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

93 posted on 09/16/2004 4:51:20 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

And your point is? What? Did you know their national anthem has God in it?


94 posted on 09/16/2004 4:52:40 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: CWOJackson
"Yet, President Vladimir Putin who stayed out of view during the crisis broke silence Saturday with a somber 10-minute address to the nation in which he blamed police corruption and the collapse of the Soviet Union for an inadequate response to what he called a ``full-scale'' terrorist war against Russia."

There you have it.

95 posted on 09/16/2004 4:53:10 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: MarMema
Putin puts 'Soviet' bar on poll coverage

Nick Paton Walsh in Moscow Tuesday September 9, 2003 The Guardian

The Kremlin has introduced a draconian election law which threatens the media with closure if they give details of candidates' personal lives or analyse their policies.

The new law aims to stem the "black PR" and slurs which marred past elections. But it has infuriated opposition MPs and journalists. Some said it represented a return to the Soviet era control of political debate.

The decree, signed by President Vladimir Putin, places a blanket ban during campaigning on forecasting results and requires candidates to be given equal coverage - a practical impossibility because there are 44 parties.

A media outlet can be shut during the electoral campaign after two warnings.

"The law substantially limits press freedoms," said Alexander Shishlov, a senior member of Yabloko, Russia's leading liberal party.

He said the law was even more draconian when the Kremlin presented it to parliament, and MPs removed some of its harsher clauses.

"Yet the law retains its repressive character," he said. "Its adoption is a very alarming sign [for Russia's future]."

The existence of the decree came to light after Mr Putin began the electoral campaign last week when he announced parliamentary elections on December 7.

The presidential election, which analysts consider a foregone conclusion for Mr Putin, is in March.

But Mr Putin seems to have fallen foul of the law himself. He appeared on national television last week endorsing Valentina Matvienko for election as governor of St Petersburg, although the law prohibits officials using their posts to promote their parties or re-election.

A court began hearing a against the appearance, but some high-ranking officials are, under the constitution, immune from prosecution.

The leader of the opposition Union of Right Forces, Boris Nemtsov, said: "We live in a country where everyone from the president to the pauper does not follow the laws. While this continues, we will have big problems."

Journalists in St Petersburg have been the first to face the new restrictions.

One newspaper left its front page blank in protest while filling its inside pages with articles about a fictional election in a faraway land - in reality the St Petersburg vote, but with candidates' names changed.

96 posted on 09/16/2004 4:53:18 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Putin lays blame with corruption, breakup of Soviet Union for ``full-scale'' terrorist war on Russia

And you disagree with this? He is absolutely correct.

97 posted on 09/16/2004 4:53:45 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

Everything that you point out as being good in Russia, came about as a result of the democracy that the ex-KGB boss is taking away from the people.


98 posted on 09/16/2004 4:54:37 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: CWOJackson

You're preaching to the choir. I have been there many times and I know what it took to make things happen. Corruption is everywhere and Putin has been trying to stop it. It will take a long time for this old way of making deals to go away.


99 posted on 09/16/2004 4:55:10 PM PDT by MarMema
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Pro-Putin cult urges return to Soviet 'glory' By Clem Cecil in Moscow (Filed: 27/01/2002, News.telegraph)

A SINISTER new organisation, backed by the Kremlin, is urging the Russian people to reject pro-Western views and go back to the "glory" of Soviet Russia.

The 50,000-strong group which calls itself "Walking Together" has strict rules and indoctrination methods, but unlike the Chinese group it has the support of the authorities.

"We want to create a new generation to help the president bring Russia out of crisis," said its founder, Vasily Yakimenko.

The Kremlin's clear involvement can be traced back to the group's beginnings. Mr Yakimenko left a job in the Kremlin administration, where he was overseer of state-run charities, in May 2000 to create Walking Together.

The senior patron of the movement is Vladislav Surkov, the deputy head of the presidential administration.

The group is vehemently pro-Putin and its first public action was a huge rally in November 2000 to celebrate his presidency.

Wearing T-shirts emblazoned with Putin's face, thousands gathered near the Kremlin and spoke of their love for the president. Mr Putin later received the organisers of the rally in the Kremlin.

Russian liberals fear that the group is the embodiment of persistent attempts by senior Kremlin officials to set up a new Soviet-style cult of personality around the president: nationalism thinly veiled as patriotism is a hallmark of Walking Together.

The group demands strict loyalty and discipline from its members, who are handed a long checklist on joining which includes commands to "read at least six Russian classics a year, whether you enjoy them or not, and visit the site of a battle where the Russians were victorious".

Mr Yakimenko's latest attempt to indoctrinate members, aged mainly between 14 and 30, is a proposal to "purify Russian literature". Modern "liberal" books, which depict the difficulties of modern Russian life, have been damned by Walking Together.

The group has in turn published thousands of copies of a book of stories recounting the Red Army's "glorious victories" during the Second World War. These books were offered free in exchange for "corrupting" works.

Walking Together is secretly sponsored by two companies with close Kremlin ties as well as Moscow city council.

Its outgoings are high: members are divided into groups of five called "red stars", each led by a "foreman" who receives a free pager and £30 for his services. Each of his five "soldiers" receives £1 as well as free T-Shirts.

Members are encouraged to recruit others with promises of rank and glory reminiscent of Communist indoctrination methods. "Once you have a red star, try to persuade another 50 to join.

"Give them a party if they show interest in the group. You must be able to encourage and to punish, then you will become a commander of a division. If you persuade another thousand to put their fate in your hands, you will be a coordinator."

100 posted on 09/16/2004 4:55:47 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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