Posted on 09/16/2004 11:47:16 AM PDT by STFrancis
Kommentar
"Die Terroristen sind unsere Söhne"
© Al-Jazeera/AP Im Fernsehen ausgestrahlt: Irakische Geiselnehmer präsentieren einen Filipino und drohen mit seiner Hinrichtung
Abdel Rahman al-Rashid, Direktor des Fernsehsenders Al Arabiya, rechnet ab: mit islamistischem Terror und dem Schweigen der arabischen Welt.
Fest steht: Nicht alle Muslime sind Terroristen. Fest steht aber auch: Fast alle Terroristen sind Muslime. Das einzugestehen ist sehr betrüblich. Die Geiselnehmer von Beslan: Muslime. Die Entführer und Mörder der nepalesischen Köche und Arbeiter im Irak: Muslime. Die Reiterbanden, die in Darfur vergewaltigen und morden: Muslime wie ihre Opfer. Die beiden Frauen, die in Russland zwei Flugzeuge zum Absturz brachten: Muslime.
Bin Laden ist ein Muslim. Die Mehrheit derer, die in den letzten zehn Jahren Selbstmordattentate auf Busse, Schulen, Wohnhäuser und andere Gebäude überall auf der Welt verübten - sie bestand aus Anhängern des Islam. Was für eine schreckliche Bilanz! Sagt sie uns nicht etwas über uns selbst, unsere Gesellschaft und unsere Kultur?
Beschämend und entwürdigend Ob man sie in ihrer Gesamtheit betrachtet oder jedes für sich: Diese Bilder sind grausam, beschämend und entwürdigend für uns Muslime. Was sie zeigen, ist wirklich geschehen. Dieser Realität sollten wir uns stellen, statt uns vor diesen Bildern zu verstecken oder sie gar zu rechtfertigen und wie so oft in wohlklingenden Texten und Predigten unsere großen historischen Leistungen zu beschwören. .
Abdel Rahman al-Rashid, Direktor des TV-Senders Al Arabiya Es wäre ein Leichtes, uns selbst zu kurieren, wenn wir nur anerkennen würden, dass wir in einer kranken Gesellschaft leben. Diese Selbsterkenntnis wäre der erste Schritt zur Besserung. Die Terroristen sind unsere Söhne. Unsere verstümmelte Kultur hat sie zu dem gemacht, was sie sind. Es liegt an uns, sie aufzuhalten. Hört euch genau an, was Jusuf al-Qaradawi zu sagen hat, der Fernsehscheich des Senders Al Jazeera. In aller Öffentlichkeit erklärt er, das islamische Recht erlaube es, US-Zivilisten im Irak umzubringen. Ein Religionsgelehrter ruft zum Mord an Zivilisten auf! Am Ende seines Lebens stachelt dieser Scheich Kinder zum Mord an Zivilisten an - während gleichzeitig zwei seiner Töchter im sicheren Großbritannien ihren Studien nachgehen, im Vereinigten Königreich der Ungläubigen.
Wie könnte ein Vater wie er jemals der Mutter des jungen Nick Berg gegenübertreten, deren Sohn wie einem Tier die Kehle durchgeschnitten wurde, weil er in den Irak kam, um Funkmasten zu reparieren? Wie können wir solch einem Scheich glauben, wenn er uns verkündet, der Islam sei eine Religion der Gnade und Vergebung, und ihn doch selbst in eine Religion des Blutvergießens verkehrt?
Früher, vor diesem Zeitalter der Extremisten, betrachteten wir die Radikalen unter uns, ob Linke oder Nationalisten, immer als Wurzel gesellschaftlicher Korruption, weil ihre Ideologien die Basis der Gewalt bildeten und sie das Morden auf die leichte Schulter nahmen. Damals war die Moschee noch ein Ort des Schutzes und der Zuflucht. Die Religionsgelehrten kündeten vom Frieden, und in ihren Predigten ging es um edle moralische Werte.
Verunstaltung einer unbescholtenen Religion Es ist eine neue Art von Muslimen, die unsere Religion verunstaltete. Eine unbescholtene Religion - das sieht man schon daran, dass unsere Schriften sogar das unnötige Fällen von Bäumen verbieten; den Mord als schlimmstes aller Verbrechen beschreiben; den verurteilen, der ein kleines Insekt unachtsam zertritt, und dem Belohnung verheißen, der einer durstigen Katze zu trinken gibt.
Das ist der Islam, wie wir ihn kannten - bevor die Islamisten mit ihren Gebetsgruppen und Programmen und Lehrern daherkamen, die politischen Gruppierungen unter ihren Einfluss brachten, die Religion entstellten und den Leuten den Verstand durcheinander brachten.
Es gereicht uns nicht zur Ehre, dass wir Muslime jetzt mit Leuten in Verbindung gebracht werden, die Schüler und Journalisten als Geiseln nehmen, die Zivilisten umbringen und Busse in die Luft jagen - ganz gleich, was für Leid diesen Rächern mit Sprengstoffgürteln selbst angetan worden sein mag. Diese Leute entstellen und beleidigen den Islam.
Wir werden unseren ramponierten Ruf nicht reparieren können, bis wir die ebenso klare wie schändliche Tatsache anerkennen, dass heute die Mehrheit der Terrorakte auf der Welt das Werk von Muslimen ist. Wir werden es nicht schaffen, unsere Kinder, die diese abscheulichen Verbrechen begehen, von ihrem unheilvollen Weg abzubringen, ohne zu kritisieren, wie unsere Scheichs den Verstand der Leute manipulieren. Diese Scheichs, die sich auf ihren Kanzeln als Revolutionäre aufspielen und die Kinder anderer Leute in Kriege schicken - ihre eigenen aber auf Schulen in Europa und Amerika.
Copyright: Al-Scharq Al-Awsat, 2004 Übersetzung: Steffen Gassel
Nicht alle Muslime sind Terroristen. Fest steht aber auch: Fast alle Terroristen sind Muslime. Das einzugestehen ist sehr betrüblich. Die Geiselnehmer von Beslan: Muslime. Die Entführer und Mörder der nepalesischen Köche und Arbeiter im Irak: Muslime. Die Reiterbanden, die in Darfur vergewaltigen und morden: Muslime wie ihre Opfer. Die beiden Frauen, die in Russland zwei Flugzeuge zum Absturz brachten: Muslime.
It should be stated strongly - not all Muslims are terrorists. But this also should be stated strongly: almost all terrorists are Muslims. This is assuredly very sad. The hostagetakers of Beslan: Muslims. The kidnappers and murders of Nepalese cooks and workers in Iraq: Muslims. The bandits which engage in violence and murder in Darfur: Muslims like their victims. Both the women who brought down two planes in Russia: Muslims.
Bin Laden is a Muslim. {A laundry list of events - presumably atrocities all over the world} that stand at the hands of Islam. Was a disgusting "Bilanz" (balance?). You can't say this was for ourselves, our Religion and our culture! "
all I know is "Bist Du Schvul?"
I was in A&P school (aircraft mechanic) with a German who used to say "SCHIESS!" (SP?) a lot.
Thank you. Your German is much, much better than mine.
Scheisse!
ein, zwei, gezuffa.
"Die terrorists are our Soehne" On the television radiated: Iraqi geiselnehmer present a Filipino and threaten with its execution Abdel Rahman aluminium-Rashid, director of the television station aluminium Arabiya, accounts for: with Islamic terror and the silence of the Arab world. Stands firmly: Not all Muslims are terrorists. Stands in addition, firmly: Nearly all terrorists are Muslims. To admit is very betrueblich. The geiselnehmer of Beslan: Muslims. The kidnappers and murderers of the Nepalese cooks and workers in the Iraq: Muslims. The rider gangs, those in Darfur rape and murders: Muslims like their victims. The two women, who brought two airplanes in Russia to the crash: Muslims. Are shop is a Muslim. The majority of those, which committed suicide assassination attempts in the last ten years on penalty, schools, houses and other buildings everywhere in the world - them consisted Islam of trailers. Which for a terrible balance! Doesn't she say somewhat about us, our society and our culture to us? Shaming and entwuerdigend whether one regards her in her whole or everyone for itself: These pictures are cruelly, shaming and entwuerdigend for us Muslims. Which they show, really happened. We should place ourselves to this reality, instead of hiding us before these pictures or to justify and like so often swear to in probably-sounding texts and lectures our large historical achievements them. Abdel Rahman aluminium-Rashid, director of the TV transmitter aluminium Arabiya it would be an easy, us to couriers, if we would only recognize that we live in an ill society. This self realization would be the first step for improvement. The terrorists are our sons. Our mutilated culture made it, what they are. It is because of us to stop it. Listens to you exactly, what has to say Jusuf aluminium-Qaradawi, the television sheikh of the transmitter aluminium Jazeera. In all public explains he, the Islamic right permits it to kill US civilians in the Iraq. A religion scholar calls to the murder at civilians! At the end of his life this sheikh Kinder stimulates to the murder at civilians - while two of its daughters in the safe Great Britain follow to their studies at the same time, in the united kingdom of the disbelieving ones. How would a father know like it the nut/mother of the young ever nods mountain opposite-steps, whose son was cut through like an animal the throat, because he came into the Iraq, in order to repair radio masts? How can we believe such to a sheikh, if he announces us, who is Islam a religion of the grace and assigning, and him nevertheless into a religion of the blood pouring operates? In former times, before this age of the extremists, we regarded radicals among us whether link or nationalists, always as root of social corruption, because their ideologies formed the basis of the force and them to murders on the light shoulder took. At that time the mosque was still another place of the protection and the refuge. The religion scholars told of the peace, and in their lectures it concerned noble moral values. Verunstaltung of a blameless religion it is a new kind of Muslims, who our religion verunstaltete. A blameless religion - one sees already to the fact that our writings forbid even unnecessary falling of trees; the murder as the worst of all crimes describe; that condemn, which zertritt a small insect negligently, and which promise reward, which gives to drink a thirsty cat. That is the Islam, as we could do it - before the Islamics with their groups of prayers and programs came along and teachers, who brought political groupings under their influence, the religion disfigured and the people the understanding in disorder brought. It been enough the pupils and journalists as hostages do not take to us in the honour that we are brought now Muslims with people in connection, who kill civilians and into air hunts penalty - completely directly, which may have been done for wrong this Raechern with explosive belts themselves. These people disfigure and insult the Islam. We will not be able to repair our ramponierten call, until we recognize just as clear as infamous fact that today the majority of the acts of terrorism in the world is the work of Muslims. We will not create it to divert our children, who commit these horrible crimes, of their dire way without to criticize, as manipulate our sheikh the understanding of the people. This sheikh, which up-play themselves on their pulpits as revolutionaries and which children of other people send into wars - their own however on schools in Europe and America.
Thank you for the translation but it's not complete. What's a Soehne, geiselnehmer (sounds rough), aluminium, betrueblich, geiselnehmer (that nasty name-callling word again), entwuerdigend, nods, Verunstaltung, verunstaltete, zertritt, Raechern, and ramponierten?
"Not all terrorists are Muslims. But it appears that all terrorists are Muslims.
I think you might want to check this part again. (Or maybe that was intentional.)
A islamic said this? I'm flabbergasted!
Fast alle = "almost all"?
See post #21
Thanks a bunch...
It's interesting to me that FINALLY we are hearing words of wisdom from Muslims themselves. How long before he is silenced?
More importantly, I think this article in German is one of the same articles from Arab newpapers that have been quoted recently in other threads (in English translation). These articles concerned Arab reaction to Beslan.
You really must read the Koran in the original German.
longjack
Buhuhahahaha! It took 10 painful trys...
# 26 was the first correct German word I found here (except of the article of course). It means shi*. The rest was complete bullshi*.
Anyway it is funny to watch!
I think a mixture between the lack of education and the lack of self-convidence lead to this horrible agression in a small part of the islamic world. It has nothing to do with the religion itself.
The fight for freedom has to be combined with a fight for the hearts of the population in the middle east. I know that the coalition troops and Israel are working on that problem, but the efford is still not enough.
You are right. Germany made big faults in the past. Especailly the handling of the Munich affair was a shame for my country.
On the other hand it is absolutely wrong, to say that all terrorists are muslims. We had nazis, unabombers, RAF, Red Brigades, Mc Veigh and the black hand. Israel and Russia are not effective in dealing with their terrorists. The remains of the slaughtered of Beslan and Haifa are telling the real sad story. And - there is no proof that America will be effective with the war on terrorism either. It is a tragedy that Bin Laden was right when he said, that from now on there will be fear in American towns. It is quite probable that someday some idiots out of the afghan mountains will use C- or B-weapons on US-territory.
Don't understand me wrong. I believe in using hard force against thugs. I believe that my German gouvernment should have taken part in the coalition to free Iraq. It was a major fault of our gouvernment.
But - is it necessary to offend the whole muslim world with the excessive use of power on them? For example - is it nessecary to blow up houses of people in Palestine who had absolutely nothing to do with terrorism? Who wonders, when a 15-year old muslim boy, who is standing in front of the ruins of of his family house, will shoot on IDF-Forces in the future? I would shoot if I would be him because I have testicles. :-)
Therefrom it follows: Only the extermination of the whole muslim population in this world would bring total security for the west, because you have to deal with all those little boys who had to suffer collateral damage. As a German I can tell you, that the extermination of millions just because of their religion is not a good idea. We learned from our history in the past.
The whole west has to overthink the strategy. We have to do it togehter and the millitary action has to be combined with winning the hearts of the people. This will be the only way to keep our towns safe.
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