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The Grand Scheme: What may be really going on with CBS and the Documents.

Posted on 09/16/2004 8:34:43 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

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1 posted on 09/16/2004 8:34:46 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
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To: Pukin Dog

Nurse! Nurse! :))


2 posted on 09/16/2004 8:36:22 AM PDT by sailor4321
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Naah - CBS was busted trying to lie and cheat to smear Bush. It blew up. I will agree however, it is keeping Kerry off the front burner and the fact W was kicking his ass post-convention.


3 posted on 09/16/2004 8:38:17 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Pukin Dog
Throwing this into the mix:

Dan Rather from the NY Observer story:

He did not reveal the name of the source, but Mr. Rather said he was a man who had been reluctant to come forth with them because he’d been harassed by political operatives. "Whether one believes it or not, this person believed that he and his family had been harassed and even threatened,"

And from today's NY Times:

In a book published this year, "Bush's War for Re-election" by James Moore, Mr. Burkett is quoted as reporting having received numerous death threats, including telephone messages and a bullet with his name on it that he says he found in his mailbox. More recently, he told people that his son's car had been burned.

4 posted on 09/16/2004 8:38:28 AM PDT by Pete
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To: Pukin Dog
A plausible story. We on FR have often excoriated Bush for not defending himself against many accusations over the years, but it could be that he and Karl Rove have been thinking just the way your source described - with the media as an active adversary, deny and the issue becomes a lie; ignore and the issue goes away.

Jackie Onassis gave the famous advice: "Neither confirm, nor deny, nor explain." Seems to be what the Bush campaign is doing.

5 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:04 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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AKA - Bait and switch.


6 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:08 AM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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I've thought about this scenario, but why would CBS risk their ratings on such an elaborate ruse? Occam's razor and all that.


7 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:19 AM PDT by Hazzardgate
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I'm no longer ready to dismiss these kinds of claims.


8 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:31 AM PDT by zook
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CBS knows that the documents they have been using are fakes, and they are trying to make sure that the public, and more importantly, the White House knows that they are fakes, in order to make the White House comfortable with taking a position denying the accusations contained in the phony documents.

Won't work because Dubya never opens his mouth needlessly.

There is no need to deny the allegations. The fraudulent nature of the evidence speaks for itself.

Dubya never said a single word about letting the Assault Weapon Ban expire. If he had, the media would have demagogued the issue to death. By ignoring it, Bush eviscerated it as an issue.

There is absolutely no reason for him to change tactics now.

By remaining silent, Dubya keeps Dan Rather twisting slowly in the wind.

What could be better than that?

9 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:36 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Allan; Shermy; okie01

Ping.


10 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:44 AM PDT by Mitchell
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It doesn't make sense. If CBS attacks the President using obviously fake documents, no one is going to trust any documents they parade in the media regardless of how many "experts" provide authentication.


11 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:50 AM PDT by jess35
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Intriguing scenario. CBS is out there harping about more memos, however, this would be an incredible gamble to undertake - to wit, why destroy your integrity as a media outlet before delivering the intended "killshot"?

Does not compute.


12 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:51 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("The message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing...")
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Anything is possible. I thought it could be "balloon-floating" issue for possible future forgeries the DNC is going to release to try to clear Kerry. If the public buys the rathergate memos, the DNC may be encouraged to come up with some "never-before-seen" Kerry docs exonerating him against each precise Swiftie allegation.

As of yet, the DNC has not disproven anything the Swiftboat Veterans have to say.

I've also noticed the numbers of veterans attending the Kerry events has dropped dramatically.

There is definitely something up and CBS is part and parcel in it.


13 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:56 AM PDT by austinaero
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I think, therefore I don't believe it.


14 posted on 09/16/2004 8:41:03 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: austinaero

Media is no longer reporting the news but rather making it to progress their own agenda. These media tyrants must be removed by any means necessary. Whether they step down voluntarily or forceful removal by rooftop vote by the citizens.


16 posted on 09/16/2004 8:41:29 AM PDT by boofus
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Sounds spot on to me. They 'misunderestimated' the President.

This is like a poker game, and they say Dubya is very good at poker. It's gonna be fun when he calls the dim's bluff.

17 posted on 09/16/2004 8:41:29 AM PDT by GaltMeister (This is not my tagline. My family has it. The tagline belongs to my family.)
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Removing Kerry from the news a few months ago would have been good, but now Kerry needs to be front and center to counter developing negative perceptions. This CBS situation is in no way good for Kerry.


18 posted on 09/16/2004 8:41:39 AM PDT by Warlord
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To: Pukin Dog
Far fetched? What do you think?

It's time to invest in bauxite futures.

19 posted on 09/16/2004 8:41:42 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: austinaero

short term their ratings are probably better. long term Dan retires and we know how short america's collective memory is. i think the theory fits most the behaviors we have seen. now, can you explain O'Rielly? or does he fit in somewhere too.


20 posted on 09/16/2004 8:41:56 AM PDT by nostromo56
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