Burkett's attorney David Van Os and Bill Clinton
Burkett's attorney David Van Os and James Carville
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Posted on 09/16/2004 6:57:57 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
I thought SeeBS had the docs for 6 weeks while they "vetted" them. Why would they have just been faxed last Tuesday?
Why did Barnes (DNC Fundraiser) seem to know so much about this?
Susan Estrich also had a screed on what was about to come, and oh how we'd pay (whatever).
PING!
We need your DNC talking points from April.
Is a fax CBS's actual source or a front -- like those little corner stores that used to be around here, obviously not doing $10 business in a month, but the bookie need an obvious source of income.
Is the DNC/Kerry Campaign involved?
Absolutely! Terry McAuliffe said they're not, and that's enough proof for me! ;-)
If the DNC/Kerry Campaign is involved, can it be proven?
I doubt that it can be without a break or a mole. But considering the detectives-manque on FR and the blogs, maybe someone can ferret out some apparently innocent factoid that will unravel this.
Was Dan Rather a willing participant?
I would say yes. He's a liberal and a Dem: by their code of values, the highest good is to defeat the eeeeeeeevil Republicans. Compare an Orthodox Jew (and I have the highest respect for them, but it's the example that came to mind), who is justified in breaking the Sabbath to save a life: Dems are authorized by "higher principles" to allow defeating Republicans to override any consideration of justice, mercy, truth, honor, simple decency, etc., and they do it, not only with a clear conscience but with utter confidence in their own virtue!
It's not just one person. Burkett is the patsy. The brain is Sasso.
They were done in 2003.
McAuliffe and Kerry both started on the TANG crap at the end of 2003, and kept pushing it to scare the Dems into voting for Kerry in the primaries. They saw what McAuliffe was doing, figured military records would be a focus in November, so they voted for Kerry because, for some reason, they follow McAuliffe's lead.
Doesn't matter when work on the ad started. These charges leveled in the memo and in the ad are the same charges waved in the faces of the voters unsuccessfully 5 or 6 times in the last 4 years by the Democrats and their idiot base.
Oh duh, you were the one mentioning the law partners. It took me so long to backtrack and find which site I'd read the other stuff on, I forgot that, LOL!
Kerry=Edwards website: (DNC) Press release, April, 2004.
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0427b.html
Pulled this interesting bit of information off the Texas Monthly website. We might need to look in the the Richards family connection. Specifically how involved is Cecile Richards?
From the August 2004 Issue...
The Daughter Also Rises
The Bush-Richards wars in Texas were supposed to have ended ten years ago—and we all know who won. But with Ann's daughter, Cecile, overseeing the most well-funded effort to unseat a presidential incumbent in history, any talk of a cease-fire is officially over.
by S. C. Gwynne
THE MOST MEMORABLE quote of the 1988 Democratic National Convention came from Ann Richards, then the Texas state treasurer and one of the party's brightest rising stars. "Poor George," she said in the keynote address, referring to George H. W. Bush, then vice president of the United States. "He can't help it. He was born with a silver foot in his mouth." The line became instantly famous. Richards was elected governor of Texas two years later, and the irony was lost on no one when, after four years in office, she went down in bitter defeat to the son of the man she had so mercilessly derided.
That election ended her electoral career, launched W. toward his own elaborate political destiny, and might well have been the last anyone heard about Bush versus Richards. But the story does not end there. As it turns out, the silver-tongued Ann, like the silver-footed forty-first president of the United States, also has an ambitious, successful, and highly partisan eldest child. Her name is Cecile Richards, and she is the proximate political antipode of George W. Bush, as pure a creature of the Democratic left as he is of the Republican right. She is 47 years old, a striking six-footer and longtime labor organizer with a bright, explosive laugh who can stop a room when she walks into it just as her mother can. A full decade after W. beat Ann at the polls, Cecile, who like George W. made her first big political splash in Texas in the nineties (and like him went to a fancy private school and an Ivy League college), has become one of the key leaders of an unprecedented $250 million campaign being waged outside the Democratic party whose sole purpose is to drive George W. Bush from office. Think of it as Bush-Richards III.
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April 27, 2004
Key Unanswered Questions: Bush’s Record In The National Guard
For Immediate Release
“If George Bush wants to ask me questions about that through his surrogates, he owes America an explanation about whether or not he showed up for duty in the National Guard. Prove it. That's what we ought to have. I'm not going to stand around and let them play games.” -- John Kerry, NBC News, 4/26/04
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Bush Has Said He Used No Special Treatment To Get Into The Guard. How Does He Explain The Fact That He Jumped Ahead Of 150 Applicants Despite Low Pilot Aptitude Scores?
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Col. Albert Lloyd Said A Report From Alabama To Ellington Should Have Been Filed. Where Is That Report?
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Why Did Bush Miss His Medical Exam In 1972?
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Where Are The Complete Results Of The Required Investigation Into Bush’s Absence From The Exam?
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Why Did Bush Specifically Request To NOT Be Sent Overseas For Duty?
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Why Does The White House Say Bush Was On Base When Bush’s Superiors Had Filed A Report Saying He Was Gone For A Whole Year?
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Why Is The Pentagon Under Orders To Not Discuss Bush’s Record With Reporters?
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Where Are Bush’s Flight Logs?
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Why Hasn’t Bush Himself Demonstrated That He Showed Up For Service in Alabama?
Bush Has Said He Used No Special Treatment To Get Into The Guard. How Does He Explain The Fact That He Jumped Ahead Of 150 Applicants Despite Low Pilot Aptitude Scores?
“There was no special treatment.”
--Then-Gov. George W. Bush [Dallas Morning News, 7/4/99]
FACT: With Family Connection, Bush Got Coveted Slot in Texas Guard Shortly After Graduating from College.
A family friend of Bush’s father pulled strings to secure Bush’s spot; Bush joined the Texas Air National Guard after his student deferment ran out when he graduated from Yale in 1968. Before he graduated, Bush personally visited Col. Walter “Buck” Staudt -- the commander of the Texas Air National Guard -- to talk about the Guard. After Bush met with Staudt, he applied and was quickly accepted -- despite a waiting list of over 150 applicants. Staudt recommended Bush for a direct appointment, which allowed Bush to become a second lieutenant right out of basic training without having to go though officer candidate school. The direct appointment also cleared the way for a position in pilot training school. [New York Times, 9/27/99; Houston Chronicle, 10/10/92; Los Angeles Times, 7/4/99]
FACT: Bush Scored in 25th Percentile on Pilot Aptitude Test. When Bush applied for the Guard, his score on the Air Force pilot aptitude section, one of five on the test, was in the 25th percentile, the lowest allowed for would-be fliers. [Dallas Morning News, 7/4/99]
FACT: No Shortage of Pilots in Texas Guard. Although a Bush spokesman claimed Bush was fast-tracked because the Guard needed pilots, Charles C. Shoemake, a chief of personnel in the Texas Guard from 1972 to 1980 remembered no such shortage. “We had so many people coming in who were super-qualified,” Shoemake said. Texas Guard Historian Tom Hail said there was no apparent need to fast-track applicants. “I’ve never heard of that,” he said. “Generally they did that for doctors only, mostly because we needed extra flight surgeons.” [Los Angeles Times, 7/4/99] Col. Albert Lloyd Said A Report From Alabama To Ellington Should Have Been Filed. Where Is That Report?
FACT: Col. Lloyd: Guard Records Should Include Evidence Of Alabama Service. Lloyd also said he did not know whether Bush performed duty in Alabama. “If he did, his drill attendance should have been certified and sent to Ellington, and there would have been a record.” [Boston Globe, 5/23/00; AP, 6/24/00]
FACT: White House’s Own Expert Said Bush Should Have Done More. According to the Globe, “the White House included with the documents a memorandum from a Texas Air National Guard personnel specialist stating that the documents prove that Bush had a ‘satisfactory year’ for ‘retirement/retention’ purposes between May 27, 1972, and May 26, 1973. But that specialist, retired Lieutenant Colonel Albert C. Lloyd Jr., acknowledged in an interview last night that he evaluated Bush using the lower of two measures for rating Guard service. Guardsmen, he said, needed to serve more days to meet minimum-training requirements than to meet the lower threshold to receive retirement credit for the year. ‘Should he have done more? Yes, he should have,’ Lloyd said of Bush, who was a fighter-interceptor pilot. ‘Did he have to? No.’” [Boston Globe, 2/11/04] Why Did Bush Miss His Medical Exam In 1972?
FACT: Bush Was Suspended From Flight Duty For Failing To Take Mandated Medical Exam.
On September 29, 1972, Bush was officially suspended from flying for missing his annual medical examination. The orders note that Bush’s suspension is authorized under the guidelines presented in Air Force Manual 35-12 Para 2-29m, which reads that Bush’s local commander “will direct an investigation as to why the individual failed to accomplish the medical examination.” [Aeronautical Orders, Number 87, 29 Sept 72; AFM 35-13, Para 2-29m] Where Are The Complete Results Of The Required Investigation Into Bush’s Absence From The Exam?
FACT: The order suspending Bush from flight duty stated: “Verbal orders of the Comdr on 1 Aug 72 suspending 1STLT George W. Bush…from flying status are confirmed…Reason for Suspension: Failure to accomplish annual medical examination. Off will comply with para 2-10, AFM 35-13. Authority: Para 2-29m, AFM 35-13. [Aeronautical Orders, Number 87, 29 September 1972, emphasis added]
Para 2-29m, AFM 35-13: “When a Rated Officer Fails To Accomplish a Medical Examination Prescribed by AFM 160-1…(1)The local commander who has authority to convene a Flying Evaluation Board will direct an investigation as to why the individual failed to accomplish the medical examination. After reviewing the findings of the investigation, the local commander may convene a Flying Evaluation Board or forward through command channels a detailed report of the circumstances which resulted in the officer’s failure to accomplish a medical examination, along with a recommendation that the suspension be removed. (2) The individual’s major command will forward the report along with the command recommendation to USAFMPC/DPMAJD, Randolph AFB TX 78148 for final determination.” [Para 2-29m, AFM 35-13, emphasis added] Why Did Bush Specifically Request NOT To Be Sent Overseas For Duty?
FACT: Bush’s Application Indicated Bush Did Not Volunteer for Overseas Duty. On Bush’s application to the 147th Fighter Group at Ellington Air Force Base in Texas, Bush was asked what his “Area Assignment Preferences” were. Bush checked the box beside “Do Not Volunteer” for overseas duty. [Application for Extended Duty With The United States Air Force, 5/27/68] Why Does The White House Say Bush Was On Base When Bush’s Superiors Had Filed A Report Saying He Was Gone For A Whole Year?
FACT: Bush’s Superiors Were Unable to Evaluate Him for a Full Year, Saying he “Has Not Been Observed at This Unit…”
May 2, 1973: Bush’s superior officers William D. Harris Jr. and Jerry B. Killian, wrote on his yearly evaluation form, “Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of report,” and that a “civilian occupation made it necessary for him to move to Montgomery, Alabama. He cleared this base on 15 May 1972 and has been performing equivalent training in a non flying status with the 187 Tac Recon Gp, Dannelly ANG Base, Alabama.” [AF-77, 2 May 73, emphasis added]
…But the White House Claims Bush was on Base the Same Day Superiors Filed Report.
White House release says Bush was paid on May 2, 1973, the very day his superiors reported that “Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of report.” [2nd Q 1973 pay record]
FACT: Bush’s Superior Officer Says He Would Have Known If Bush Had Reported for Duty.
November 12, 1973: Rufus G. Martin signed a report on Bush’s evaluation, saying Bush was “Not rated for the period 1 May 72 through 30 April 73.” [AF-77a, 12 Nov 73, emphasis added]
Boston Globe: “But retired colonel Martin, the unit's former administrative officer, said he too thought Bush had been in Alabama for that entire year. Harris and Killian, he said, would have known if Bush returned to duty at Ellington.” [Boston Globe, 5/23/00, emphasis added]
Why Is The Pentagon Under Orders Not To Discuss Bush’s Record With Reporters?
FACT: Freedom of Information Officers Under Orders From Senior Pentagon Officials To Ignore Requests on Bush Files. According to the Spokane Spokesman-Review, “at the National Guard Bureau, now headed by a Bush appointee from Texas, officials last week said they were under orders not to answer questions. The bureau's chief historian said he couldn't discuss questions about Bush's military service on orders from the Pentagon. ‘If it has to do with George W. Bush, the Texas Air National Guard or the Vietnam War, I can't talk with you,’ said Charles Gross, chief historian for the National Guard Bureau in Washington, D.C. Rose Bird, Freedom of Information Act officer for the bureau, said her office stopped taking records requests on Bush's military service in mid-February and is directing all inquiries to the Pentagon. She would not provide a reason. Air Force and Texas Air National Guard officials did not respond to written questions about the issue. James Hogan, a records coordinator at the Pentagon, said senior Defense Department officials had directed the National Guard Bureau not to respond to questions about Bush's military records.” [Spokane Spokesman-Review, 3/14/04, emphasis added]
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Here's where I jumped the shark last night ; )
The CBS News memo - read about the source. They said this person was in a position to obtain them. Now Dan Rather said he got them from an ex-Military Officer and an unimpeachable source. That isn't Burkett.
When I heard "army terms, not air force terms", I knew it wasn't Burkett. I thought Wes "Kerry will implode over an intern issue" Clark - he has the contacts to get this done, he's a wild-eyed conspiracy nut, and his ego places him as a genius in strategy. As a military lifer, he certainly has the contacts to get this done.
That fits Rather, as well as CBS News's description.
It has to be a liberal/DNC link, because there is NO way that any conservative would send such a clumsy, half assed, forgery to CBS/Rather, unless it was a parody. A child could see that they were fakes. A non-partisan child anyway!
Rather would never have trusted any conservative/RNC source, and no doubt would have investigated the documents in a manner that these docs clearly were not.
Any DNC forger would have known that Rather would be a soft touch on them, and he has a record of lame attacks on Republicans.
Can you imagine, in your wildest dreams, that Rather would ever say that any conservative source was "unimpeachable?"
Conservatives don't need to do this sort of dishonest, deceitful act: we have the truth on our side, and it is always unimpeachable!
Another Freeper does the research for the "real" media.
This was a pure Hail Mary attempt by the K/E Campaign & DNC -- with CBS acting as the eager accomplice. I would guess these documents have existed for a while, but they were never desperate enough to attempt to use them. CBS was blindsided at the speed the docs were identified as forgeries. They thought they had a few weeks while the "content" damage was done...
I would say we're in agreement... I also posted this in another thread yesterday:
CBS's only viable option is to claim they have been victim of a hoax. Despite their best attempts to get at the facts, they were duped. They'll blame Burkett & low level Texas Dems (avoiding any connection to the DNC & K/E campaign). They'll be as angry as the rest of us for this heinous act of fraud.
They're running out of time for the "Big Hoax" defense, though....
ping
Dan Rather's constant harping on Republican operatives is just odd. Why would he bring politics into a story that he is backing up with his career? If he wasn't emotionally involved with the story, he'd stick to the facts as he claims them to be. He is emotionally invested in it.
Beautiful!
Can you send those photos to Drudge?
He's got some info on the attorney, and it sure would look pretty if the photos accompanied it.
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