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To: thoughtomator

Under the Rockerfeller drug laws someone who steals my car or holds me up at knifepoint will do less time than a street dealer who gets caught with one shift's supply of heroin or crack. That's only morally wrong but pragmatically stupid -- I don't think drug dealing is a victimless crime, but the victims are least willing participants...


12 posted on 09/16/2004 6:40:28 AM PDT by only1percent
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To: only1percent

I really don't see why drugs require locking people up for decades whereas homosexuality (a real killer) is protected, and drinking and smoking tobacco are tolerated. The only real purpose I can see is that such laws enable the government to more fully control its citizens. If you live in NYC like I do, you see potheads all the time, and you see drunk people all the time, and there's no question that of the two, the drunk people are the ones you want to avoid.


14 posted on 09/16/2004 6:57:46 AM PDT by thoughtomator ("With 64 days left, John Kerry still has time to change his mind 4 or 5 more times" - Rudy Giuliani)
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To: only1percent

By the way... very pertinent current and relevant, check out the story on the baseball player who threw a chair into the stands, seriously injuring a woman, and the pleas on his behalf for leniency.


17 posted on 09/16/2004 6:59:07 AM PDT by thoughtomator ("With 64 days left, John Kerry still has time to change his mind 4 or 5 more times" - Rudy Giuliani)
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To: only1percent
"who gets caught with one shift's supply of heroin or crack"

"Under the Rockefeller Drug Laws, the possession of four ounces or sale of two ounces of certain controlled substances is a Class A felony and carries a penalty of 15 years to life in prison. Possession of two ounces or the sale of half an ounce mandates three years to life in prison".
-- drugpolicy.org

Certainly the street dealer knows the laws. Yet he deals. That's New York's fault?

23 posted on 09/16/2004 7:08:20 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: only1percent

"That's only morally wrong but pragmatically stupid -- "

Agreed - Increase the penalties for anyone who steals my car or holds me up at knifepoint.


91 posted on 09/16/2004 8:06:07 AM PDT by RS (Just because the PJ Posse is out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: only1percent
I don't think drug dealing is a victimless crime, but the victims are least willing participants...

Tell that to the hundreds of hungry kids (who have no choice in the matter) whose parents are out stealing and murdering for their next fix.

96 posted on 09/16/2004 8:07:54 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: only1percent
someone who steals my car or holds me up at knifepoint will do less time than a street dealer

Most people committing property crimes -- the vast majority, 90+% -- are doing it to feed their drugs habit. Your "harmless" street dealer is recruiting and motivating hundreds of burglars, shoplifters, and armed robbers.

I would not support legalizing drugs. Singapore deals better with this problem. I would go one step further: I'd support putting poisoned drugs into the distribution system. Every one of these zombies who ODs saves hundreds of citizens from misery, or even death. Why not speed them to that OD with strychnine or arsenic in the meth, crack, coke or heroin? Make the world a better place, one addict at a time.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

174 posted on 09/16/2004 9:45:32 AM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (The Original Documents? I saw Mary Mapes typing furiously last year....)
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I don't think drug dealing is a victimless crime, but the victims are least willing participants...

This is a short-sighted view/attitude. The purpose of liberty is that man might destroy himself and harm the society of people around him? No man is an island. All of society feels the effects of drug dealing. The more "degenerate" mankind becomes and the more open he becomes about it by affecting those around him, the more regulating he requires.

498 posted on 10/10/2004 10:35:29 AM PDT by Mockingbird For Short ("An irreligious fanatic is just as dangerous as a religious fanatic.")
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