and great post.it sure seems like a lot dems in the know knew an awful lot about these doc's doesn't it?
Posted on 09/15/2004 4:31:16 PM PDT by Syco
Teddy Bart on his daily radio show, "Teddy Bart's Roundtable" may have given us a clue about who knew about the documents nearly a month ago. It appears that Bob Tuke, who was a guest on the show on August 11th knew that something was about to happen with regard to President Bush's alleged failure to show up for a physical examination.
Teddy referenced the episode on September 9th when he said, "listeners to the Roundtable will note that something was going to come because Bob Tuke, who is a Nashville attorney and significant in the Kerry campaign in Tennessee, told us about three weeks ago that there was going to be some document about Bush's missing time in the Alabama National Guard, in the National Guard, and that somebody was going to come forward with a document...."
[On the] August 11 broadcast Bob Tuke said that by the time of the debates, "We may also know why Bush failed to show up for his medical exam that caused him to lose his flight status." When pressed on his comment he said that, "The physical exam was scheduled for a couple of weeks after the Air Force changed its policy and decided to put drug testing into physical exams so now the speculation is out there about why would a person who has been serving for - supposedly serving for - three to four years in the Air National Guard as a pilot fail to show up for a physical so that he could maintain his flight certification status? Why?"
What was obvious to Teddy Bart even a month ago was that Bob Tuke was aware of a pending document that would shed a damaging light on President Bush's time in the National Guard.
(Excerpt) Read more at billhobbs.com ...
When I was watching FOXNEWS during the convention I remember McCauliff (however you spell the jackasses name) hinting about guard service stuff coming out.
Good first post though you probably didn't have to excerpt it....
Welcome to Free Republic. You did a fine job with your posting.
Seems like maybe these guys from the radio broadcast ought to be "interviewed" by someone...............say, maybe the FBI?................about what they knew, when they knew it, and WHERE they heard about it.
I think it's already all over.
It was obvious that they had a bomb to drop but like alot of terrorists the bomb exploded on them.
Susie Ostrich also gave us a 'heads up' a few weeks ago -- on Hannity, as I recall -- similar to this one.
If JfnK doesn't approve of 'smears' he's been in the wrong party for 35 years. This is their bread and butter.
Now we know why those memos are so crucial to cBS. Danny is still insisting that the questions raised must be answered even if there is no evidence to base the questions on.
Danny has sunk (again) to rumor mongering and pretending it is reporting.
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Yep. I could have sworn it was reported that the DNC had the memos right around the same time CBS got them, which was 6 weeks ago or so.
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Good catch. Thanks for posting.
I don't know about this. I was in the Navy when the Navy started doing drug testing - which was in 1982 - not 1972. It could have been different in the Air Force, but I don't think that they did drug testing back then.
Besides, Bush was in the National Guard, not the Air Force.
Was anybody in the National Guard (or the Air Force) when they first started doing drug testing? If so, when was it?
I don’t recall drug testing starting that early in the 1970’s. This source says that only those in the methadone program were tested, and personnel generally not unitl 1980
Large-scale drug testing was originally stimulated by the Department of Defense's (DoD) need to monitor its armed forces during the Vietnam War era, and by the heroin "epidemic" in the 1970s, which resulted in thousands of patients being treated with methadone (Federal Register, 1972) and were required to be drug free and monitored to confirm that they were not taking additional drugs. In late 1980 the testing industry further expanded as the Navy, following a series of incidents that highlighted the pervasive use of marijuana among their personnel, announced a policy of "zero tolerance" for illicit drugs (Cangianelli, 1989~. Over a period of 2 years they designed and implemented a testing program that required contracted laboratories to analyze more than 2 million urine specimens each year in order to monitor and control illegal drug use in the Navy. By the time the naval program was in place, the other branches of the services had followed suit (Willette, 19861. Private industry then followed.
Under the Influence?: Drugs and the American Work Force (1994)
"The physical exam was scheduled for a couple of weeks after the Air Force changed its policy and decided to put drug testing into physical exams"
Drug exams have never been optional. They were given even to returning GI's in the early 70's. Bush didn't take the yearly flight physical because he wasn't flying. Killian wasn't ordering Bush to take the physical, was just informing him he was grounded
I've heard this as well. Actually, if their thinking is so muddied that they were trying to pass off obvious forgeries as genuine, it wouldn't surprise me that they may have also been trying to get the public to believe that Bush was a drug addict who was trying to avoid his "drug test". Brit Hume had a former National Guard officer on yesterday who basically agreed that there were no drug tests performed (at least not routinely) in the early 70's. However, couple this allegation with Kitty Kelly's book, which was scheduled to be released only a few days later, and you can see how the Dems might be trying to create a firestorm. Fortunately, they're the ones getting burned!
and great post.it sure seems like a lot dems in the know knew an awful lot about these doc's doesn't it?
The Washington Times | August 25, 2004
...Another frequent charge is that, as a member of the Texas ANG, Lt. Bush twice ignored or disobeyed lawful orders, first by refusing to report for a required physical in the year when drug testing first became part of the exam, and second by failing to report for duty at the disciplinary unit in Colorado to which he had been ordered. Well, here are the facts:
First, there is no instance of Lt. Bush disobeying lawful orders in reporting for a physical, as none would be given. Pilots are scheduled for their annual flight physicals in their birth month during that month's weekend drill assembly — the only time the clinic is open. In the Reserves, it is not uncommon to miss this deadline by a month or so for a variety of reasons: The clinic is closed that month for special training; the individual is out of town on civilian business; etc. If so, the pilot is grounded temporarily until he completes the physical. Also, the formal drug testing program was not instituted by the Air Force until the 1980s and is done randomly by lot, not as a special part of a flight physical, when one easily could abstain from drug use because of its date certain. Blood work is done, but to ensure a healthy pilot, not confront a drug user...
Welcome to FR and thanks for posting this.
The more we have on this mess that shows a broad conspiracy, the better off we are.
Many feel that this was the October surprise and was used to soften the impact of the Swift Vets.
This is beyond just the scope of CBS/60 Minutes, and we will start hearing some real leaking about where this originated and who pedaled it.
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