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1 posted on 09/15/2004 5:26:26 AM PDT by crushkerry
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2 posted on 09/15/2004 5:27:16 AM PDT by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted - and to see our lovely spokesmodel))
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To: crushkerry

Ah--on the strength of this, Dan may claim to be off the hook.


3 posted on 09/15/2004 5:44:26 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Pajamamama)
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To: crushkerry

I saw on another thread that, contrary to the impression left by the original story, Mrs. Carr was not a private secretary to Killian (per Killian's son) -- more like one of the typing pool. Which makes her a lot less likely source of anything to the point.


6 posted on 09/15/2004 5:50:38 AM PDT by maryz
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To: crushkerry
"She's clearly a plucky elderly lady who is sharp and has no trouble speaking her mind."

All well and good -- and more power to her for so being!

Yet she was an executive secretary, and in that profession, there is an ethos to get your yap shut forever about what transpires in the job. It's like being a personal butler.

No one would hire the butler who would be suspected to later write a tell all -- and the butler who does is diminshed -- loses credibility just by so doing.

And so too with Miss Knox.

It's certainly fine and dandy for her to not support Mr. Bush for President, even to speak against him. However HER line of integrity and goodness is crossed and moves into the very questionable when she uses things she learned on the job to do so, to do so by speaking these privacies in public.

And that questionability -- her willingness now to violate that ethos -- speaks to the veracity of what she says.

If she's ethically impaired in one area -- what about the other. Isn't she more likely to "mis-remember" or "mis-construe" or "sloppily confuse" what happeneded those 30 plus years back.

Yes, she is.

In question herself.

She impugns her own ethics.

7 posted on 09/15/2004 5:58:23 AM PDT by bvw
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To: crushkerry

Some unedited videotape of Mrs. Carr is needed.


8 posted on 09/15/2004 6:18:42 AM PDT by elli1
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Do I believe that LTC Killian could have had negative feelings toward politically connected Air Guardsmen (on whose behalf influence may have been exerted)? Sure. I work with middle class and blue collar "unconnected" Guard officers and enlisted personnel who express such feelings from time to time. The facts as we know them, however, are that LTC Killian kept such feelings out of his official correspondence (including LT Bush's efficiency report), and even out of his comments to his own family (which would be a credit to his professionalism, if indeed he resented "LT" Bush's "political" connections). "Office politics" are a part of military life. George S. Patton, Jr. once called himself "the best a.. kisser in the Army", and frequently used his personal wealth and his connections to foster his career and/or to get himself out of trouble. I'm sure that a lot of his contemporaries resented that, but few would have said so on the record.


9 posted on 09/15/2004 6:19:02 AM PDT by pawdoggie
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She claims that it was General Staudt, not Lt. Col. Hodges that was applying the pressure to Lt. Col. Killian to whitewash Bush's record concerning his not taking the physical. - Drudge Interview

Ummm...you might want to add that Staudt actually retired in March of 1972, BEFORE the memos were even written. From what we have gathered here, whomever did the forgery was dependent on an article that mistakenly stated he retired in 1975.

10 posted on 09/15/2004 6:31:56 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: crushkerry
No one bothered to ask her how she knows this.

Gee, crushkerry, your analysis is good, but you missed an important conclusion. The reason no one asked her how she knows is rather obvious:

DAN RATHER TOLD HER SO!

LOL ;>)

12 posted on 09/15/2004 6:49:11 AM PDT by RebelTex (Freedom is everyone's right - and everyone's responsibility!)
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She also smeared Killian by accusing him of violating laws by keeping seperate or personal adverse action reports on military personnel.
Pretty nasty slander (or libel, or whatever the verbal one is).


13 posted on 09/15/2004 6:50:23 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Watch for a CBS employee in a trench coat going by DeepWord.....)
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To: crushkerry
The Democrats are desperate to replicate an Orwellian atmosphere, in which they can manipulate history, and consequently, present-day truth. It's kind of pathetic, really.

From "1984":

"And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed—if all records told the same tale—then the lie passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the past' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'"
14 posted on 09/15/2004 8:06:38 AM PDT by Darnright
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EXCELLENT piece of writing, as usual from crushkerry.com! This lady would be rendered moot in either a civil or criminal trial. Which reminds me...WHY ARE WE DOING THE FBI's JOB??? Is there not a criminal case here and why has nobody noticed the blatant lack of interest by the feds in pursuing it?

The 1st Amendment does not apply to slander and libel...nor does it apply to treason.

16 posted on 09/15/2004 10:29:42 AM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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