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To: Drango

It's "www.bordersunion.org" and boy is it...um..."interesting".


120 posted on 09/15/2004 7:16:04 AM PDT by Dooderbutt
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To: Dooderbutt

I went to another thread...

Check this out!!

"We don't need your type here Rinkydink, and you're not welcome. You and not-really-President NaziKillerChimp are what's wrong with this country. I hope someone here on this board knows who this fascist is and outs him.

He's obviously only on this board to help bust organizing.

I won't sell the liars' book, I won't stop giving my true opinion on the floor, and I won't knuckle under to BINC. This is too important! Bush is worse than Hitler, worse than our wildest nightmares, and is the greatest threat to mankind in history. He must be stopped, so I won't sell the propaganda he's shoving down the country's throat.

I know I speak for most Borders people when I say Kerry is our only hope and we've got to be soldiers in his army."


132 posted on 09/15/2004 7:30:16 AM PDT by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
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To: Dooderbutt; All

http://www.bordersunion.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1195&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

Dogma wrote:
For anyone wondering, according to those nutters over at Free
Republic, we commie fag booksellers are indeed sitting on the
titles in the sort rooms. Not just Borders mind you, but ANY
store ANYWHERE that sells books. (As we all know, Wal-Mart
is well stocked with communists.)



More proof that these people are mentally unbalanced and need help
overcoming their paranoia. Just imagine. They actually believe every
bookstore is against them-- that a tremendous left-wing conspiracy
keeps honest people from knowing the truth. Imagine how alone they
must feel.

It's really sad that these poor people would think the profit incentive
is no match for our conspiracy not to sell their books, a conspiracy so
well-concealed-- despite the vast thousands who are a part of it-- that
no evidence for their claims can be found.



makeitstop



Joined: Aug 24,
2004


Posts: 34


Posted: Aug 25, 2004 - 02:23 PM




It wouldn't surprise me a bit, though what I've heard is that they are
just too small to handle the demand.

Sounds like a lot of the book's claims are falling apart under close
scrutiny, but of course the people who buy the book won't care about
that.

And yeah, the Clinton book sold very poorly here once his book signing
was over at the local B&N. It sold like hotcakes for the weeks leading
up to the signing because we were the only place in the area that still
had copies--B&N sold out almost as soon as the event was announced.
I'm so glad we didn't have to deal with those hassles--I heard it was a
total PR nightmare. But now the books are just taking up space.



heron



Joined: Jan 01,
2001


Posts: 61


Posted: Aug 25, 2004 - 09:28 PM




Commies at WalMart? Dang!



Arabicon



Joined: Jan 12,
2004


Posts: 140
Location: Miami,
FL

Posted: Aug 26, 2004 - 08:45 AM




withrow wrote:
You can probably get Regnery's corporate number from Books
in Print or off the web. I'd keep it handy and then whenever a
customer asks for this book, tell them that Regnery isn't
keeping this book stocked and it may be because Regnery is a
pinko-commie-fag publisher who's trying to bury this story by
not printing enough copies of this book. Tell them you even
read on the web that Hillary Clinton is on Regnery's Board of
Directors.

And, after all, you did just read on the web that she's on the
Board and that it's pinko-commie-fag publisher so you wouldn't
be lying. Well, maybe you shouldn't use "pinko-commie-fag".
How about pacifist lesbian outfit? Not that there's anything
wrong with that.







Arabicon



Joined: Jan 12,
2004


Posts: 140
Location: Miami,
FL

Posted: Aug 26, 2004 - 08:51 AM




I'm sorry we're all putting up with sh*t over this thing but it's good not
be alone. The other day a customer took one of our managers to tak
because we had so many anti-Bush books on display. After a few
minutes of his foaming rant she calmly told him to be glad that we
had the few pro-Bush titles that we did because "it's almost
impossible to say anything good about him."

OK, she actually told us this later in the backroom, but we all wished
she'd said it to his face. I wouldn't have told a soul.



chaosincreation



Joined: Aug 26,
2004


Posts: 3


Posted: Aug 26, 2004 - 08:24 PM




the outrage over this book is ridiculous. i don't know if you guys have
all seen the e-mail from vin altruda about political views in the
workplace, but i know the east coast stores got it.

we are literally being asked to erase any views we have on anything
political because some nut customer called sean hannity's show saying
that our specific bookstore told her that we aren't carrying the book.
we are now no longer allowed to have anything political on even on
our lockers or personal desk space. i'm surprised we can even still
wear our register to vote pins.

i've been personally attacked numerous times due to the book not
being in store, and one of the other supervisors was chewed out for
being a liberal, when, gasp, he actually supports Bush. not everyone
at Borders is a Commie!

the only good point is that the Barnes and Noble down the road has
been calling us for support because they're actually getting hit worse
than we are. i guess more Republicans shop there or something...since
we're so damn liberal.

i guess my "Commies for Kerry" button will just have to go on once i
clock out...[/b]



dr_queerlove



Joined: Jun 05,
2003


Posts: 172


Posted: Aug 26, 2004 - 09:41 PM




Egads! After reading all this, I'm glad my customers are mostly liberal
and/or apathetic. I'm curious now, though, if I can get on one of the
wacko call-in shows. Imagine the fun one could have making stuff up:
"Why, I saw whole pallets of the book being tossed into the store's
dumpster!! Boycott B&N!! Riggio is a Pinko Commie!" Fun times.



chaosincreation



Joined: Aug 26,
2004


Posts: 3


Posted: Aug 26, 2004 - 11:02 PM




what a good idea! you've tempted me sorely. the things one could do
to just keep the entire ludicrous situation aflame...ah, the possiblities.
no more boredom at the info desk now! get on those phones and call
Mr. Hannity!



classical-liberal



Joined: Aug 27,
2004


Posts: 2


Posted: Aug 27, 2004 - 09:45 AM




Pardon me for mentioning this, but 'takahashi' seems to indicate that
at least some Borders people ARE hiding, damaging and otherwise
making the book unavailable. So there is a grain of truth to your
'rightwing nutcase' customers' suspicions! Our jobs as booksellers is to
make sure the book gets its say in the marketplace...it is after all a
tiny spot in a sea of anti-Bush-ness this season.

If things were reversed and you were looking for Michael Moore's book
(if it had been published by a small press with a bad record of
distribution) at a store run by Republicans, would you believe them
when they said they were out? No, many of you would be saying
exactly the same thing your customers are saying.

People, humor and common sense have kept me of any arguments. I
say flat out that Borders' management are flinty-hearted,
penny-pinching, stone-squeezing capitalists who would no more stand
for the peons tossing sales out the window than they would poke
themselves in they eye with a stick. This usually gets a laugh or at
least a "Mmm, I guess so", and then I tell them that we sell lots of
things we don't agree with, along with the opposing viewpoint. I take
them to the section, point out some books on both sides, and wander
off. Most of them buy something, and that's my job. And maybe some
of them will indeed look at things in a more balanced way.



NoCoHo



Joined: Jan 22,
2004


Posts: 220


Posted: Aug 27, 2004 - 08:49 PM




Actually, I hope that every person who buys it reads each slimy, sleazy
insult, carefully edited half-truth and outright lie...and then returns the
thing for a refund because they've decided they want no part of such
uncivilized and immoral conduct. I will take delight in handing each
one hir cash or credit with a cheerful smile and thanking hir MOST
sincerely.



merry10



Joined: Aug 28,
2004


Posts: 1


Posted: Aug 28, 2004 - 11:59 PM




[quote="takahashi"]You guys don't actually HAVE to sell the thing!

Just "carelessly" hide the boxes, "accidentally" drop them off pallets,
"forget" to stock the ones you have, and then suggest a nice Al
Franken or Micheal Moore book as a substitute. Borders wants those
recommends, remember?

You're doing exactly what conservatives suspect you of doing. Not only
that, but the swifties have a right to criticize Kerry. Look at all those
Moore LIes books that have sold. Did you want to hide those from the
lefties that came in? no wonder you work at a bookstore, can't get a
corporation to hire you?



heron



Joined: Jan 01,
2001


Posts: 61


Posted: Aug 30, 2004 - 06:29 PM




I did some research and apparently not only did the anonymous caller
to Hannity's show claim that Borders was refusing to carry the books,
he said that Borders was trying to recall the ones that had been sold.

How's that for a laugh!

And, Merry, last time I checked, Borders is a corporation.



NoCoHo



Joined: Jan 22,
2004


Posts: 220


Posted: Aug 31, 2004 - 03:23 PM




Do tell, Heron...what was Hannity's reply? Inquiring minds MUST know!




heron



Joined: Jan 01,
2001


Posts: 61


Posted: Sep 02, 2004 - 03:28 PM




The following came off the web - I was doing some searches to try to
pinpoint exactly how the 'Borders is hiding my book' crap got started.
Apparently, Kerry is strong-arming us. I apologize for the nastyness of
the below artical, but this is what we are up against. Check it out
yourself.

I couldn't find Hannity's response. I probably could have pulled up the
show and listened, but there is a limit to the nastiness to which I am
willing to subject myself.


John Kerry Pushing Book Ban of "Unfit For Command"


By Sher Zieve
Aug 20, 2004

Well, it’s happened, folks. As I predicted in my August 11, 2004 article
“John Kerry’s Media”, the Kerry campaign is strong-arming booksellers
into banning “Unfit For Command”. Today’s Drudge Report has it as the
headline story. Kerry is afraid…very afraid of the truth. Myriad books,
filled with patently false statements, have been written about
President Bush and his administration. These books, however, have
been praised and pushed by our “mainstream press” and on-air media
Kerry surrogates. It was reported, yesterday (by a caller to Sean
Hannity’s radio show that Borders will no longer carry the book and is
“attempting to recall the books already sold”. If you have read George
Orwell’s “1984”, this is precisely what Big Brother affected. Book
burnings were a regular course of action.

If the people are kept stupid and uninformed, they are much easier to
handle and manipulate. The Masters can then implement any and all
programs they want.

This is the direst action, yet, perpetrated by John Forbes Kerry. This is
truly and inexorably chilling. Would be King Kerry is showing his abject
fear of any and all truth [about him] being presented. This fear is,
now, translating into not only deceit to the public but, banning of the
truth. How long will it take for the Kerry Kool-Aid drinkers to come out
of their stupor and realize who and what this man really is? I hope and
pray they wake up before it’s too late. All of us need to wake up, be
vigilant and stop this insanity. Our very lives and liberties are at
stake, as never before!




About the author: About the author: Sher Zieve is a Conservative
political commentator, appeared on the CBS program "Mysteries of the
Millennium", has been included in "Who's Who in the West", "Who's
Who in the US" and "Who's Who in Entertainment". Ms. Zieve is the
author of "The Scattering-Book 1 of Earthseed" and her website is:

www.e-kard.com/earthseed.



rinkydink



Joined: Aug 25,
2004


Posts: 3


Posted: Sep 02, 2004 - 04:09 PM




"...It was reported, yesterday (by a caller to Sean Hannity’s radio show
that Borders will no longer carry the book and is “attempting to recall
the books already sold”..."

That writer (and presumably the caller) and anyone who believes this
can't possibly know anything of value about books & bookstore
operations. Recall books already sold? Not only impossible, but
downright silly.


143 posted on 09/15/2004 7:43:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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