Ye Olde Zot! Election - An English View

September 15 2004 | Interested Anglo

[Interested Anglo]

It might be argues that as an Englishman, resident in the UK, your election is none of my business but as it will effect everyone in the world, I feel entitled to a voice, if not a vote. (Judging by your last foray into democracy, perhaps votes are not all that important)

I do not envy you having to choose between the inarticulate incumbent Bush and an unimpressive challenger who seems to live thirty years in the past. Why can't you wonderful country find better candidates than this pair?

Whoever wins will have to confront the monstrous debt, ($7 trillion and growing at over $1 billion a day) which has been run up by the current administration. Your economy (and probably everyone else's)is therefore in for a very tough time and whoever wins will probably get the blame.

From my point of view the ideal scenario would be for a Bush win and then, as a result of the collapse of the economy, a Hilary victory in 2008. Kerry would be a one termer and the credibility of the democrats would be undermined for a generation if he won.

My worry about this would be the Bush might interpret such a victory as a mandate for open season on Iran which could unleash a terrorist backlash that would make 9/11 look like a tea party (and I am not trivialising the appalling events of that day)

We live in interesting but very dangerous times

[Jim Robinson]

A landslide will definitely give Bush a mandate to clean house, both at home and abroad. Yeehaw!

[RandallFlagg]

AWWW! I missed one?

You're up late.

[martin_fierro]

Sic 'im.

[AggieCPA]

Things could be worse, I could be an Englishman living in England.

[Lancer_N3502A]

Your village called...

[Happygal]

From my point of view the ideal scenario would be for a Bush win and then, as a result of the collapse of the economy, a Hilary victory in 2008.

I stopped reading after this point.
Did he have anything sensible to say?

[bad company]

We'll come up with better candidates when you brits design an automotive electrical system that works. (lucas)

[martin_fierro]

My worry about this would be the Bush might interpret such a victory as a mandate for open season on Iran...

And it will.

... which could unleash a terrorist backlash

But it won't.

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

"I'm not worried about the deficit -- it's big enough to take care of itself."

President Ronald Reagan

[Jim Robinson]

LOL

[democrats_nightmare]

I get sick of you Euro Weenies....All you do is sit back and sip your tea and snipe at the US....Don't forget we had to Come Over There twice to save your little candy arses. And if it wasn't for us you would be speaking Russian by now.

Buzz Off!

[familyop]

"My worry about this would be the Bush might interpret such a victory as a mandate for open season on Iran which could unleash a terrorist backlash that would make 9/11 look like a tea party (and I am not trivialising the appalling events of that day)"

Well, King George III was a lunatic, and the Ayatollah's worse. But we have better toys, nowadays.

And President Bush will be re-elected, as per our national wishes and certain motivations from your side of the pond (e.g., the post above). There's really nothing that people in cultural Europe can do about it. So have a comfortable chair and a smooth drink.







And enjoy the ride!

[Glenn]

Thanks for your input. The wonderful thing about being a US citizen is I am permitted to chuckle and then ignore it.

Happy Trails, aristocrat.

[Tempest]

I read the 1st two sentances and determined the author was an arrogant jerk that was very full of himself. So did the schmuck ever have anything interesting to say?

[MadIvan]

Things could be worse, I could be an Englishman living in England.

I beg your pardon?

Do not take this prat as being representative of all of us.

Regards, Ivan

[piasa]

Read the contents and links in post #28, and learn the material as best you can. Then return for future testing and we'll see just how interested you are. Clearly you haven't studied much so far... so here's your opportunity.

ENTER HERE

[MadIvan]

It might be argues that as an Englishman, resident in the UK, your election is none of my business but as it will effect everyone in the world, I feel entitled to a voice, if not a vote. (Judging by your last foray into democracy, perhaps votes are not all that important)

If you'd been paying attention, you'd have discovered that from a British perspective, it would be much preferable to have Bush in office. The way Kerry carries on about America having no allies, he implies we don't exist, the blood of our dead count for nought.

As for being in love with Hillary - for the love of Christ, there could hardly be a worse person to be President: greedy, avaricious and cruel, she will stop at nothing to gain power.

Educate yourself before you speak on matters about which you know nothing - I've been fortunate enough to live in America for a time, and study its history - based on that experience, I dare say it would be best for all concerned if the Democrats were denied power forever.

Ivan

[BJClinton]

Do not take this prat as being representative of all of us.

Ditto for that aggie being representative of Texans.

[familyop]

"Do not take this prat as being representative of all of us."

Hello, Ivan. As is the case in most countries, most of our rabble, although relatively well educated, only pay scant attention to analytical political information. ...slogans and "sound bites."

So we propagandize, whether with honest parabolic or dishonest parabolic speech to eventually get the attention of the masses. Most people won't listen to or retain much more than what appears to be tabloid material. To make a point to the general populace, we spew rhetoric in one direction or the other, as readers love generalizations.

You should (or maybe shouldn't) hear what expatriate Englishmen in the inlands (away from the coastal sodomitical places) of the USA have to say. Their words are most often something like, "England sucks!" Englishmen who migrate to the northeastern parts or the west coast of the USA, on the other hand, have likewise things to say about conservatives, here but positive things to say about contemporary European culture, as do their neighbors. So you see, most people, here and there, struggle with their own personal pursuits and ignore the bulk of what they see as intellectual noise (that is, complicated, logical analyses).

So we feed them generalizations with which they may laugh and criticize others--their favorite pastimes.

I've been studying the histories of propaganda specifically for approximately ten years, but those among us who can find kinder, gentler rhetoric that the masses will certainly digest are far and above myself in knowledge of methods.