Urgent Terrorism Threat on Our Southern Border

CitizensLobby.com ^ | 9/11/04 | Citizens Lobby

[usadave]

But then the anti-immigrant folks aren't really concerned about terrorists at all are they?

It's anti-ILLEGAL immigrant. Quit displaying your ignorance.

[bayourod]

That can be said about anything. For example: "You better have your tongue cut out before you accidentally swallow it in your sleep and die. The fact that there is no known case of that ever having happened is not an excuse not to cut your tongue out immediately. If you don't cut it out I fear it will be "too late" when you find out you should have.

We are already spending tremendous sums monitoring our southern border. Without any real evidence otherwise, there are higher priorities for our anti-terrorists dollars.

I've raced yachts off shore for many years and not once have I been stopped by the Coast Guard. Only 5% of shipping containers are inspected. Very few new cars being imported by rail from Mexico or Canada are inspected. Tourist visas are freely handed out at over seas embassies to anyone not already identified as a terrorist.

Why aren't all of the FReepers wringing their hands over the remote chance of terrorists trekking the desert even concerned about the real ways terrorists enter? Because it isn't about terrorists at all. It's about Mexicans.

[JJDPower]

This is what scares me. I'm in Texas and I think it would be easy for terrorist to enter our country via Mexico. I heard that a lot of middle eastern could pass as Mexican as long as they don't talk. Does anyone else worry about this?

[bayourod]

Perhaps you can provide a verified case of a terrorist crossing the southern border illegally. Don't you think it would be much safer for them just to go through official border crossing points as tourists or students? SSS?

[lonewacko_dot_com]

" I'm open to your detailed plan to locate, identify, process and deport the 8-12 million currently resident illegals."

Please. That's a false choice even worse than the one proposed by Hutchinson.

You won't ever get rid of every illegal alien. However, if you want to increase the number there are things you can do, and vice versa.

Many of our policies seem designed to increase the number rather than decrease the number.

For instance, if you want to increase the number you: allow banks to accept the Matricula Consular card, give social security to illegal aliens, stop doing workplace enforcement, stop fining companies that violate our immigration laws, propose amnesty programs, etc. etc. etc.

If you want to reduce the number you do the opposite. Hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens will simply deport themselves. No cattlecars needed.

[Happy2BMe]

"Why aren't all of the FReepers wringing their hands over the remote chance of terrorists trekking the desert even concerned about the real ways terrorists enter?"

______________________

And that would be?

[lonewacko_dot_com]

bayourod says: "Can you show us just one person who illegally crossed over the Mexican border who has been charged with terrorist related activities?"

We haven't had a [insert dread disease here] outbreak in decades. So, I guess that means we can completely let our guard down and stop inoculating people against [insert dread disease here] and cease [insert animal or insect that spreads that dread disease here] abatement.

The L.A. Times has a round-up of people smuggling Middle Easterner into the U.S. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-mexterror15sep15,1,5830791.story

All of those people who were smuggled in might be just here to work. Or, they might not. Should we wait to find out what their intentions are, or should we try to prevent more from coming in?

[Smartass]

Government Dodges Grade for Border Patrol

If you can't measure it, you can't improve it.
Richard Stanna, GOA Homeland Security Director - June 2, 2003
"We recommended, and INS was supposed to do, an extensive evaluation
of the Southwest border strategy, engaging the best minds in the immigration
area. They did not do it." T.J. Bonner, August 23, 2004
"We could find out exactly how effective or ineffective we are but the leadership
of the department chooses not to do that - probably because they don't want the
public to know just how insecure our borders really are."

And the Band plays on!

[Jennikins]

I'm open to your detailed plan to locate, identify, process and deport the 8-12 million currently resident illegals.

I'll have at it. First of all, NO little U.S.citizens of illegal aliens when their babies are born, no free day care, no more welfare, no more subsidized housing, no food stamps, no free health care, and no hiring of illegals. That will solve the problem. They will move back themselves.

No one says it has to be done immediately. Give them a couple of months to pack their bags and move out.

[Jennikins]

I'm open to your detailed plan to locate, identify, process and deport the 8-12 million currently resident illegals.

I'll have at it. First of all, NO little U.S.citizens of illegal aliens when their babies are born, no free day care, no more welfare, no more subsidized housing, no food stamps, no free health care, and no hiring of illegals. That will solve the problem. They will move back themselves.

No one says it has to be done immediately. Give them a couple of months to pack their bags and move out.

[Happy2BMe]

Ping on #48. (Border Patrol resistant to an evalution - wonder of wonders.)

[bayourod]

The same way all of the 9/11 terrorists entered. The same way all of the people who have been charges with terrorist related activities have entered---at legal ports of entry..

It's too simple for people to enter the U.S. on tourist, student, business, work, diplomatic, etc... visas. Why would terrorists take a risk on being one of the 10% who get caught swimming the Rio Grande. Unlike some Buchanan/Tancredo devotees, the terrorists are not stupid.

I'm still waiting for someone to show a verified case of a terrorist illegally crossing the southern border. How about you Happy, can you show us one? Or do we just get more tin foil hat conspiracy nonsense?

[Barlowmaker]

I'll have at it. First of all, NO little U.S.citizens of illegal aliens when their babies are born, no free day care, no more welfare, no more subsidized housing, no food stamps, no free health care, and no hiring of illegals. That will solve the problem ....

Great. How are you going to get all those things done politically and legally? What are your specific action plans*?

I look forward to your next post.

* Note: Sitting anonymously on the internet and grousing about George W. Bush and Asa Hutchinson does not count as a "specific action plan"

[Jennikins]

Great. How are you going to get all those things done politically and legally? What are your specific action plans*?

Where there is a WILL, there is a WAY! If after 4 years of being in office, it seems President Bush doesn't seem to have the will.

What about this "legal" stuff...? Legal means nothing anymore. Where else can you get free everything if you're an illegal, but here. It's insane. We are no longer a country of laws.

[CWOJackson]

"Great. How are you going to get all those things done politically and legally? What are your specific action plans*?"

Be prepared. I like to ask the same question of the Constipation Party faithful. Their candidate claims that, if elected, he would end abortion in the U.S. on his first day in the Oval Office. I ask them to explain how he will accomplish this...keeping in mind his Constitutional limits of authority. I either get an extremely tortured answer that assumes Congress and the Supreme Court have all just become zombies, or flippant accusations about President Bush.

[Barlowmaker]

I don't expect any proactive responses. These folks aren't wired that way.

[Khurkris]

"Tourist visas are freely handed out at over seas embassies to anyone not already identified as a terrorist."

Please undestand that this is most definitely not the current situation.

[Marine Inspector]

I'm still waiting for someone to show a verified case of a terrorist illegally crossing the southern border.

Don't hold your breath, I doubt the Government will declassify any of that information soon.

[bayourod]

Your imaginary "classified information" is less believable than the CBS memos. Just more comspiracy junk.

[Marine Inspector]

Nothing imaginary about it.

It just does not fit your agenda, so you don't want to believe it.

You know about 1% of what is really happening on our borders.

Don't Worry, Be Happy (The Sheeple Song).