Posted on 09/14/2004 6:42:30 PM PDT by Hildy
“What I’m looking for is a Karl Rove and I don’t know where our Karl Rove is.”
Tony Coelho
The latest from CBS News reporters and analysts on the 2004 campaign:
Longtime Democratic insider Tony Coelho lashed out at the John Kerry presidential campaign, characterizing it as a campaign in chaos. With yet another appointment of a former Clinton administration staffer to Kerry’s team on Tuesday, Coelho argues the problem is worsening.
“There is nobody in charge and you have these two teams that are generally not talking to each other,” says Coehlo, who ran Al Gore's campaign early in the 2000 presidential race. As Coelho and other detractors see it, there is a civil war within the Kerry campaign.
Sen. Ted Kennedy’s former staff members, Mary Beth Cahill, the Kerry campaign manager, and veteran Democratic strategist Bob Shrum are at odds with recent additions who served under President Clinton.
“Here are two groups that have never gotten along and have fought, and it is a lot over money,” says Coehlo. "Because in the Democratic Party the consultants get paid for the creation and the placement of [advertising]. Republicans only pay you for the creation.”
Coelho, a former congressman who served as House majority whip for the Democrats from 1987 to 1989, does not question any of the Kerry staff's sincerity in wanting to unseat President Bush. But his comments highlight a longstanding battle within the Democratic Party for national campaign control.
“In 1988, Dukakis: Shrum is involved. In 1992, Clinton: nothing to do with Shrum. They don’t want Shrum in any way,” Coelho says. “In 1996, they do not want Shrum in any way. In 2000, Gore doesn’t want Clinton people. We go forward, 2004, all of a sudden it’s the Shrum/Kennedy people.”
And Coelho adds that the Kerry campaign staffers “are in serious trouble now, so they want to bring in the Clinton people.”
The Democratic scuttlebutt has long been filled with concern over Shrum’s losing streak. He remains 0 for 7 in presidential elections, from George McGovern to Michael Dukakis to Al Gore. When Coelho resigned as chairman of the Gore campaign, Shrum, in large part, took the reins.
The Kerry campaign insists this is not the case; it says Mary Beth Cahill is still in charge. But last week, the appointment of strategist John Sasso as a senior adviser began to belie such claims.
Calls and e-mails to Cahill and the Kerry campaign were not immediately returned.
“What I’m looking for is a Karl Rove and I don’t know where our Karl Rove is.” Coelho says. “I think Sasso is a Karl Rove. I’m very high on Sasso because I don’t think he plays Machiavellian games. I think he very sincerely wants to win. I think he is very big on Kerry. And I think he’s tough enough to say, ‘Goddammit, come together.’”
Sources inside the Kerry campaign say the Democratic nominee was fuming that his advisers told him to ignore charges by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth that Kerry lied about his war record and betrayed fellow veterans by testifying to Congress about alleged atrocities committed by U.S. soldiers.
The Kerry campaign never countered the Swift Boat charges, the allegations persisted and Kerry’s bad August ensued.
Kerry led most polls leading into August. By the second week of September, President Bush had come back and now has a four-to-seven point lead over Kerry, depending on the poll.
“Our problem here is a national message,” Coelho says. “What is it that we [Democrats] are? If you go to Kerry, that’s a disaster because the candidate should not be involved in solving disputes or the creation of his message.
“You need a [campaign] boss, somebody who says ‘Shut up, we are going to work this out.’ Not someone who can go around to Kerry, and that’s Shrummy’s forte,” Coelho continues, speaking of Shrum. The Kerry campaign has over the past week refuted speculation that either Shrum or Sasso are running the campaign.
But in a sign of how seriously the Kerry campaign is taking its dive in the polls, a trio of ex-Clinton staffers has come aboard recently, including former Clinton press secretary Mike McCurry who signed up on Tuesday. He joins Joe Lockhart, another onetime Clinton press secretary, and Joel Johnson, the former president’s legislative strategist.
The call for the Clintonistas, in McCurry’s view, illustrates that Democrats are circling the wagons.
“Democrats are sort of coming out of places where normally they might sit on the sidelines,” McCurry says, “because there is a strong sense that we really need to get in there and try to help, because it is an important election.”
McCurry emphasizes that he is not in charge. “I’m not pretending that I’m taking any major strategic role,” he says. “I think they’ve got too many gurus in that campaign. I’m going to be a road guy and help out and make sure Kerry’s as good as he can be.”
McCurry defends the Kerry camp and says he doesn’t think they got off message in August. “I think Bush got on message,” he says.
“I think [Mr. Bush] had a much better August than he had had prior,” McCurry says. “So I think part of this is a reaction to the fact that [the Bush campaign] sharpened up their operation and had a good convention on their side. We just have got to do our bit, on our side.”
McCurry’s addition followed a call this past weekend from campaign manager Mary Beth Cahill.
“I said I would think about it,” McCurry says. “And then when I talked to Lockhart and said, ‘What’s your assessment of what you really need?’ it was pretty clear that he could use the help. And he’s a guy that has been there for me so I wanted to help him.”
McCurry was quick to speak of himself as a deputy, not the sheriff. Though Coelho questions Cahill’s ability to run the campaign, he does not question her managerial ability.
“She’s basically a C.O.O, and a very good one. I think she’s a very effective administrator,” Coelho continues. “What McCurry represents is further chaos because McCurry’s not in charge. If they were telling me that McCurry’s in charge, then I’d feel better. I’m not sure he’s the right guy, but I’d feel better.”
Of Shrum’s role as adviser, Coelho says “I’m not anti-Shrummy here. What I’m saying is that you need to have someone in charge and I think Sasso’s capable of it.”
“If [Sasso] is in charge then Goddammit, say it and stop having the speculation of who's in charge because that’s worse,” Coelho says. “It also starts to impact in regard to the whole image of leadership. If someone can’t control a message in a presidential campaign, how are you going to be a good president?”
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We're missing the meat of this whole piece here people. Do you think for one minute that seeBS would have even revealed this BEFORE RATHERGATE? No way! This is seeBS's plan, and I've thought about this from the beginning as the way they would go. That is to throw some more "palatable" morsals for "Right wingers" to chew on. So in reading these let's not forget, this is exactly what their doing in my opinion, and it's to appease us and make our hearts not loath them "quite so much".
Yep, that sounds like the Democrats.
One Clinton guy who was brought on board last week, not mentioned in the article, was Stanley Greenberg. He was Clinton's pollster.
Tony needs to quit cussing.
Old Tony is still a crook and a bad one too! We really hated his antics as Rep in CA. Whatta jerk! His advice cannot be anything but negative.
The Dems are preparing the postmortem on Kerry and laying the groundwork for Hillary 2008. If they honestly thought that Kerry would win we wouldn't be seeing Tony Coehlo, Pat Cadell and others in the party blasting his candidacy so openly to the media. They would be acting cocky and arrogant as they usually do knowing that victory was at hand.
One could also view the report as a modest revenge against the Kerry campaign for having bent over for them...and had a red-hot poker shoved up their butt by the forgeries.
You are right, and that's exactly what they were doing during their convention. What a difference 6 weeks makes. Another 6 and we'll be almost to Election Day.
Yep..it doesn't look like this one is going to be another sqeaker... hallelujeh!
Do they honestly believe that the candidate should NOT be involved in the creation of his message? That is mind-boggling to me. This is what we have that they don't - we have a man, a President, that WAS the creator of his message. He always knew what he believed and why he believed it. He is saying the same stuff today that he was saying in 1999 -except the war on terror has been added, of course. Our guy is real. Their's is a fraud with no core. That's why he's losing - not because they don't have a Karl Rove.
The good news for Kerry? This is being reported by CBS News, so it's probably not true.
Coelho was a mover and shaker (or some would say... shake-downer) in the Dem party in the 1980's, deciding which congressional campaigns were worthy of DNC money and which ones weren't.
" Our problem here is a national message,” ?? Yea. I'll say ..Kerry HAS no message ..Still, to this day ,I dont have a CLUE what the guy stands for or believes in at all.Shooting down Bush is NOT going to get him anywhere.
"Longtime Democratic insider Tony Coelho lashed out at the John Kerry presidential campaign, characterizing it as a campaign in chaos."
Translation: You've hired everybody else, why not me too?
Kerry's problem is that he literally has no friends. He has nobody that really likes him. He's got nobody working in his campaign that in their hearts really, really wants HIM to be president.
Given that Hillary has lots of friends and most of them are working for Kerry and given that Hillary's best shot at the presidency is in 2008, is it any wonder that Kerry's campaign is in shambles?
Then why even HAVE a candidate?
How right you are . I still say most people voting FOR Keryy are simply voting AGAINT Bush. They secretly wish the hell it was someone other than Kerry they had as the choice.
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