Posted on 09/13/2004 10:38:26 PM PDT by ambrose
"Lt. John Forbes Kerry was released from active duty and transferred to the Naval Reserve on January 3, 1970. He wasn’t transferred to inactive standby status until July 1, 1972, then Honorably Discharged on February 16, 1978. Where was Lt Kerry during the18 months from 1970 to 1972? Did he attend the required drills and active duty that he agreed to? Was he AWOL or did he violate his agreed commitment on accepting a commission as an officer in the service of the United States."
Honorably Discharged on February 16, 1978??? Guess I am missing something why did it take so long to become discharged????
More relevant that "was" Kerry AWOL, is why he "is" AWOL. The man has been dodging the press for 5 weeks, ever since the Swifties hit the fan.
I can't say for certain why it was for Kerry, but some people have said that those caught using cocaine in the service are required to stay in the reserves for many many years before they can get discharged.
He's supposedly doing Imus tomorrow. I wonder if Imus will go for the kill or do softballs?
There has to be a huge reason why Kerry won't sign that form. Maybe you just found it. Was he honorably discharged?
I still want to know if Kerry got any special favors getting INTO the Naval Reserves.
he is doing IMUS, cause IMUS has agreed to ask only certain questions.......
IMUS is a disgrace to Country Music, Cowboy hat Wearers everywhere.........
Kerry I suspect negotiated a softball deal in advance. The last thing he would risk is an Imus in an unhousebroken state. Imus is a wimp however. He usually bashes personalities when they are not there. Frankly, I find the man loathsome. Pity he ever got out of rehab.
ping (for sleep reasons)
They say he is, but maybe the discharge was forged too?
I don't know, maybe we're all wrong about Kerry and owe him a big apology... he can set the record straight by releasing his military file and diaries as well as release his "band of brothers" to be interviewed by the media.
By way of comparison, here's how Kerry gamed his way
out of several years worth of USNR drills, from the
SBVFT forums, by user jwbarden
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You are correct that Kerry originally executed a 3/2
agreement which would have ended his active commissioned
service in DEC69 and begun a 2 year drilling obligation
ending DEC71, but notice that the agreement says it
remains in effect unless superceded by other orders.
Kerry's silver bullet propelling him out of VietNam, BUPERS
msg dtg 202117ZMAR69, ordering him to COMSTSLANT
Broolyn New York for duty as an admiral's aide, extended
his active duty to 31APR71 as a condition of the transfer.
Between the receipt of these ofders and their execution,
Kerry was able to negotiate this down to an extention on
active duty to 31AUG70, giving him 4 years active
commissioned service and relieving him of the drilling
obligation.
See his Officer Order Memoranda, page 4 of 4: http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Office_Order_Memos.pdf
Once at COMSTSLANT, Kerry successfully requested an
early out from this extension effective 3JAN70 without
incurring any other obligation. Slick.
He was released from active duty effective 2400 3JAN70
and transferred to the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR),
a non-drilling, non-payed status.
I had heard Imus claiming he is "undecided" now - this after previously saying he was supporting Kerry.
As I said, wimp. I may be an aging desk bound flaccid lawyer, but compared to Imus, I'm Mel Gibson.
I can't even listen to Imus anymore. The man did too many hard drugs for too long and lost too many brain cells.
Yup, you are missing something, and so are we.
The theory is that Kerry received something less than an Honorable Discharge as a result of his antics with VVAW.
However, Carter issued a blanket pardon to Vietnam Vets in 1977, so Kerry then had his paperwork cleaned up on the back of that pardon.
This would explain in part why he won't release his full records.
KERRY WAS AWOL! AWOL! SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS!
Carter's pardon pertained to draft dodging, not to cocaine use or treason.
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