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Expert Cited by CBS Says He Didn't Authenticate Papers (On DRUDGE)
Washington Post ^ | 9/14/2004 | Michael Dobbs and Howard Kurtz

Posted on 09/13/2004 7:39:52 PM PDT by jhouston

Edited on 09/13/2004 8:04:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The lead expert retained by CBS News to examine disputed memos from President Bush's former squadron commander in the National Guard said yesterday that he examined only the late officer's signature and made no attempt to authenticate the documents themselves.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cbsnews; electionrather; killian; marcelmatley; napalminthemorning; rather; rathergate; seebsnews
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To: hford02
I never wear pajamas

Good. I 'm starting the virtual "Buff FReeper" chapter. You are invited to join....

161 posted on 09/13/2004 8:50:57 PM PDT by Drango (What's the Font, Kenneth?)
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To: hinckley buzzard
But mostly I want to see McAuliffe explain it all away and tell us how the 'craps really won after all.

Now THAT will be worth staying up late for!
162 posted on 09/13/2004 8:51:06 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Really! I'm just a nice little stay-at-home mom!)
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To: Swordmaker; Darkwolf377

I predict that image will become famous.


163 posted on 09/13/2004 8:52:25 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: omstrat

Yeah, I remember my first months on Free Republic. I had just gotten my first computer and my brother, a freeper, sent me a link. It was during the Clinton impeachment, and I didn't hardly sleep for weeks. The closer we get to election time the less I will sleep again.


164 posted on 09/13/2004 8:57:49 PM PDT by My back yard (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: Grateful One

Who's got the picture of the kitten pawing at the legs of the hanged man? Seems to fit.


165 posted on 09/13/2004 8:59:20 PM PDT by HRoarke (Dan Rather--Ass Clown)
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To: Swordmaker

That is it!!


166 posted on 09/13/2004 9:00:07 PM PDT by My back yard (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: HairOfTheDog; ecurbh

Have you guys seen this??


167 posted on 09/13/2004 9:01:47 PM PDT by My back yard (Swift Pajama Freepers for Truth)
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To: hinckley buzzard
And it will be HARD not to gloat!!!

There is a time for gloating...and I think you nailed it. Election night will be payback for innumerable offenses and obscenities by the jackboot left.


I am planning on lurking at the DU, maybe making a snide comment now and then, or maybe making snide comments more than now and then. OK, I'm not really planning on lurking at all. I'm planning on gloating at the DU.
168 posted on 09/13/2004 9:03:18 PM PDT by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: plushaye

This is interesting too:

from
http://www.polipundit.com/

Driving home from work this afternoon, I listened to the radio, to KSEV AM700, to the Dan Patrick show. The guest I heard was Dr. Jerry Waite from the University of Houston. Dr Waite is an expert on the printing industry, well versed on the history and capability of typewriters, computers and larger commercial printers.

He also believes the memos presented by CBS to attack President Bush are "total fabrications". Dr. Waite is careful to insist the memos are NOT "forgeries", because "the word 'forgery' suggests they are trying to look like real documents". Dr. Waite said the memos may best be described as "fakes... bad ones".

Dr. Waite said the documents could have been produced, but only by an experienced typist on a brand-new top-of-the-line machine, which is in complete conflict with Colonel Killian's inexperience with typing, and distaste for keeping personal files, to say nothing of the National Guard's budget.

Dr. Waite also explained why CBS doesn't want to produce the originals. One quick way to see how a document was produced, is to check the ink on the paper. Toner crystals are distinctive and cannot be confused for anything else, so if a computer printed the documents (if!), the jig would be up immediately.

A caller to the show, however, made the best point I've heard today on this topic. A former Air Force corporal, with experience as a company clerk, made an outstanding point. All typewiters in 1973 used a fabric ribbon for their documents. Why is this important?

Remember, we know the documents received by CBS (and other news sources) were faxed to them. Try this experiment - type a letter on an old-style typewriter with a ribbon, fax it to a nearby fax, and see what it looks like. Ink on a ribbon-typed letter expands when it is photocopied or faxed. So, if the documents CBS received had been typed with a fabric-ribbon typewriter (that is, if they had been produced in 1973), the fax would have resulted in a slightly mushy print. The print is crisp in the documents we see, which proves the documents could not have been produced by a fabric-ribbon typewriter!

For some reason, I strongly doubt we can expect Dan Rather to confirm this discovery on his next broadcast.

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169 posted on 09/13/2004 9:04:49 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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To: jhouston

What?!?! What kind of lame sh** are you broadcasting, Dan?!


170 posted on 09/13/2004 9:05:23 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand".)
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To: hford02
"I never wear pajamas..."

Please tell me you don't freep nekkid!

171 posted on 09/13/2004 9:11:57 PM PDT by Freedom_Isn't_Free (in fact, it isn't even cheap)
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To: Freedom_Isn't_Free

That's hilarious......


172 posted on 09/13/2004 9:11:57 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: My back yard
I would bet that the original signature was destroyed. These people were dummies, but not that stupid.

Sorry, but I respectfully disagree with your assessment. If I were in the document forging business, especially where the President is involved, I would have made some effort to make my documents look as if they were from 1972. At a minimum, I would have used a manual typewriter and hammered it out complete with corrections and erasures. After all, that's what was used in the early 70's.

I was in the FAA in the late 70's and we still had an old manual typewriter in the tower for recording the daily log. I doubt that one page of that log from the time didn't have at least one typeover, misspelling etc. Anyone who used a word processor must be pretty stupid.

173 posted on 09/13/2004 9:12:45 PM PDT by par4
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To: plushaye
This is a new angle under 'factual problems'...

No. The Longmont address has been identified as part of the problem on several FR threads -- every bit as significant as the Staudt mistake.

174 posted on 09/13/2004 9:13:12 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: par4

Ya know, you might be right, yeah.


175 posted on 09/13/2004 9:14:40 PM PDT by My back yard (Swift Pajama Freepers for Truth)
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To: okie01

I must have missed it. There were so many discrepancies that we found. Thanks for letting me know.


176 posted on 09/13/2004 9:15:44 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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To: txrangerette

Thanks for the ping. I receive the WP every morning so it will be a pleasure to turn to A8. The WP should have put it on the front page like they did with the story initially. It was just below the fold.


177 posted on 09/13/2004 9:16:40 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Paul Atreides

Meanwhile, in Dan Rather's garage. He can be seen welding a th onto an old typewriter. Bending the i's closer to O's. Soon to be released "Dan Finds The Typewriter Used For His Sory"


178 posted on 09/13/2004 9:18:27 PM PDT by CMOTB (This space intentionally left blank in respect to Gores mind)
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To: Rocko

"It's a turd Dan. You can quit polishing it. Nobody believes your story about a meteorite in your backyard when you were a kid."


179 posted on 09/13/2004 9:20:09 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (You can turn your head away from the Berg video and still hear Al Queda's calls to prayer.)
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To: Rocko

"He'll have a lot of explainin' to do on Election Day."

Let's hope See-BS doesn't have the temerity to put Rat-boy before the nation to do election night analysis! That should our next step in the fight. What credibility does he have now?


180 posted on 09/13/2004 9:25:41 PM PDT by Socratic (Kerry/Edwards - Forging a New Reality)
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