Posted on 09/13/2004 8:36:02 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana
Anyone who has even a passing interest in writing should stand in awe of Dickens.
What nonsense.
Murrow would be ashamed.
Nope, you have to do your own research.....besides, biased and partisan doesn't necessarily mean something was reported falsely or wrong.
So you really know what happened in VietNam with Mr. Kerry?
You don't understand the premise that everyone should have a problem with faking documents?
You should have a problem with illegal activity.
As to your "clear and open partisanship" I say that's just groovy. But even that precludes forging papers to write a story and your recommended response being a shrug and a sigh and murmurs of "everybody does it". No, they don't and there will always be laws against lying in that manner.
Even in New York City, there are conservatives and the paper sells all around the suburbs for 50 or more miles -- where there are many more independents and conservatives.
As for CBS, its audience share is far, far larger than a strictly liberal audience. You cannot rationalize the move to partisanship as a decision reinforced by a business strategy. Remember that it is advertisers, not readers, who pay the bills.
Advertisers want large numbers across the board or a sizable targeted audiences. The more readers and viewers the Old Media lose, the more advertising dollars they lose. The move to the left is purely driven by rabid partisanship in the newsrooms and up the highest levels of the corporations that own the media.
This time the stakes are the highest ever in this Presidential election. If Bush wins big, Roe v Wade could be overturned and the marriagement amendment become the law. They will have utterly lost the culture wars.
The people who care know the memos are fake. The people who don't care know the memos are fake. The net effect is that no one to the right of Roosevelt trusts or cares what CBS reports.
You asserted "conservative" news outlets were as biased as liberal, implying they would resort to deception like their liberal brethren. There is no example you can present to support this idea.
besides, biased and partisan doesn't necessarily mean something was reported falsely or wrong.
My dear stuart, we are discussing *forged documents*. That is by definition "false" and "wrong".
It's pretty obvious by the positions voters took and the people they elected.
I've also watched trials and actually been on a jury and have been able to form "beyond a reasonable doubt" and even "beyond a shadow of a doubt" conclusions as to guilt or innocence.
As do I.
Last night, at the 2 A.M. news break on WTAM, the newsreader did a story about some Vietnam Vets that protested against Kerry at the Capitol. They shouted "Kerry Lied".
End of story.
I immediately called the news room for the station and got the person who had read the story. I told him that he left out the other half of the sentence, "GOOD MEN DIED!". Without the rest of the quotation, "Kerry lied" basically meant nothing. Kerry lied... about what?, why?, to what end?.
The newsreader said, "Well, that came straight from the Associated Press news story." He said he would do some research, I told him to check out Vietnam Veterans for the Truth, and... the story never ran again after that for the rest of the night.
My take on this is that the AP didn't exactly lie about the rally yesterday by the Vietnam Vets, but by conveniently eliminating the CENTRAL argument, "Good men died", they very effectively slanted the story.
In none of my comments did I mention anything specific..I was commenting on the lead-in line..."From Biased to Partisan: The mainstream media moves left"
The left shift happened with the Great Depression, and it took 25 years for that generation to bubble to the top of the institutions.
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Including Grover Cleveland and the Spanish-American war? Do you think the general poulation of the US had a good grasp of why we went to war? There still is no agreement on how the Maine blew up. Or do you think the general poulation really knew why Pres Polk decided to go to war with Mexico? You said earlier people knew the truth...did they? I don't believe any general population anywhere, really knows why their govt does some of the things that it does, and I certainly don't believe the media tells the truth very often when dealing with these types of issues.
Then you should come forward with this information, and put an end to all this debate, so we can address the real issues that face our nation, instead of all this VietNam and Nat Guard crap.
Got my tinfoil hat on now.
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