Caught In The Act Of Not Being AWOL!(witnessess saw Bush the time in question)
Posted on 09/13/2004 7:25:05 AM PDT by Rokke
The latest democrat attempt to slander President Bush, is a claim that he lied about claiming to have served in the Air Force as well as the Texas Air National Guard. What the weed smoking, draft dodging democrat operatives don't realize is that when Bush attended undergraduate pilot training, he had to be on active duty orders, and assigned to the active duty training wing at Moody Air Force Base that conducted the training. For the purposes of UCMJ authority, and evalutor authority, Air National Guard personel become members of the Air Force during their training.
This point will be overlooked as well as any other point that does not fit there agenda!
Caught In The Act Of Not Being AWOL!(witnessess saw Bush the time in question)
What is that document and where can I get a copy?
Which is exactly the point. All Air National Guard personnel serve on active duty while they attend pilot training. Attending the over one year of training requires permanent change of station (PCS) orders, and puts them directly into the Air Force personnel system. All the Guard guys in my UPT class were on active duty orders and placed under the direct command of the active duty Air Force officers in charge of the wing. They wore the patches and insignia of the training wing. Not their Guard unit. I served 9 years in the active duty Air Force and so far 6 years in the Air National Guard. I am very familiar with when I am under the authority of the Air Force or the National Guard.
It's also important to stress that the President had twice volunteered for VN duty and was turned down for insufficient flight hours for which he even requested a waiver.
Except TANG, and Air Force, spokesmen have already said that they do not consider that training to be active duty.
When are the Swifties coming out with their next ad?
I can only believe that is another lie from the DNC. I haven't seen a source for that anywhere. And if any TANG or Air Force spokesmen did say that, they don't have ANY IDEA what they are talking about. In fact, the document in post #4 of this thread clearly refutes what you say they said. Where are you getting your info?
(Remember, Kerry was in the Navy Reserves, not the US navy, too.)
Huh? First, I was in the Texas Air National Guard -- the 136th Airlift Wing in Fort Worth, TX. It's not the TANG, it's the TXANG. Now I'm in the NCANG. Second, if you go on active duty orders you are in the U.S. Air Force. When we get activated to go overseas to support Operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom, our orders are to active duty. Are you saying that this isn't real active duty? I will be going on active duty again on 9/27/2004, and I'll be going overseas. I'll miss my youngest child's first birthday, and my oldest son's baseball season. That's not real active duty? I am getting sick and tired of people saying this kind of crap!
Except that is not what Bush did. His only time under direct Air Force command was in training. He never left the country. He never flew support missions.
What you are describing is active duty. What is described in this instance is not.
There you go, speaking truth to lies.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Where are you getting your info? I've been put on active duty orders just to get a shot. I never even left my Guard base, nevermind the country.
Exactly! When I was in PUT around the same time, we had 2 ANG students. They explained to me that for UPT they were active duty Air Force, and would rejoin the ANG and their unit upon graduation.
The military felt Bush had done his duty. Honorable discharge, Air Force Reserves. 
"If a member of the Air National Guard is in pilot training," says Captain Cristin Lesperance of the US Air Force media relations office, "they would remain on the Guard books. They would be counted as Guard, not as an active-duty Air Force member."
http://www.thenation.com/capitalgames/index.mhtml?bid=3&pid=1704
Faux paux, dude. That's a link to 'The Nation' aka Journal of American Communism.
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