More Evidence Killian Memo's Were NOT Typed on IBM Selectric Composor

The Gantelope ^

[nickcarraway]

BUMP

[Crazieman]

Nice

[rebel_yell2]

Bummer for Dan.

[greasepaint]

Do we know for sure, or not, if the Killian
memos were kerned?

[narby]

Check this out http://www.flounder.com/bush.htm

Apparently the default for MS Word that created the memos DOES NOT kern by default. But it does do "psuedo kerning", which is as distiquishable from real kerning. And no, the equipment in 1972 discussed elsewhere doesn't do psuedo kerning either.

The memos are fake. No question.

[YaYa123]

Go here for "kerning" information.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1214078/posts

[YaYa123]

great minds......

[cpurick]

"Do we know for sure, or not, if the Killian memos were kerned?"

Apparently, text that appears kerned to the reader, but which closer inspection would reveal as un-kerned, was a design objective of TrueType. Actual kerning took too much processor overhead in 1989.

The spacing is controlled by a patented process. Amazing that they got a patent for software font spacing that existed in 1972-era typewriters, isn't it?

[Cboldt]

Amazing that they got a patent for software font spacing that existed in 1972-era typewriters, isn't it?

Actually, TrueType involves the possibility of "negative spacing" of a letter (bringing it backwards) if the letter before it permitted. 1972 era typewriters could not do this, because they didn't know the preceding letter.

[cpurick]

"Actually, TrueType involves the possibility of "negative spacing" of a letter (bringing it backwards) if the letter before it permitted."

Not really. TrueType implies that the negative value of one letter is always applied to the placement of the next letter -- unless kerning (which considers specific combinations) is turned on and dictates otherwise. Because no consideration is given to what particular characters are being paired, TrueType can't move the following letter into the space of the other.

In other words, the only overlap is within the bounds of the serifs -- which coincidentally results in desirable ligatures for some combinations. The flounder article has been enhanced, and now covers this in greater detail.

[Alouette]

the default for MS Word that created the memos DOES NOT kern by default. But it does do "psuedo kerning", which is as distiquishable from real kerning.

Furthermore, "pseudo kerning" (used by TrueType) is a PATENTED PROCESS which was not invented until the 1980's.

[Cboldt]

Thanks for the detailed correction. And the nature of True Type, as you described it, is different from proportional spacing as practiced on typewriters, e.g., IBM Executive.

[MplsSteve]

How dare you?!

How dare you try to insert fact and truth into the validity of these documents?!

You pajama-clad knave!

[Lee'sGhost]

You beat me to it.

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[js1138]

The CBS documents were not kerned. They have a letter spacing unique to TrueType, a computer technology developed in 1981.

flounder.com

unfortunately this page is unavailable due to escessive demand. :)

The bottom line is that TrueType default is more sophisticated than plain proportional spacing, but less sophisticated than kerning. Here's an example of kerning, sorry about the blank space:

The top line is the MS Word Default, which is what is used in the CBS documents. The bottom line is MS Word with kerning turned on.

The CBS documents could not have been typed or printed prior to 1982, because the TrueType spacing is unique and propriatary.

[Eva]

The latest spin from CBS is that the memos aren't the originals, that they were transcribed on a word processor to make them more legible for the tv, that CBS has never seen the originals and that they will not be getting them from their source.

[The Bandit]

The latest spin from CBS is that the memos aren't the originals, that they were transcribed on a word processor to make them more legible for the tv, that CBS has never seen the originals and that they will not be getting them from their source.

CBS isn't that FOOLISH or STUPIED (are they?)