[Robert A Cook PE]

"How do we get a copy of AFM 35-13 (or AFR 35-13)?

I'm stumped.

The democrats were quoting this manual (or think they are quoting this manual) book, line, and paragraph on the Kerry-Edwards website on April 27, 2004.

The forger is quoting the same manual, the same paragraphs, the same lines in June, 2004.

The forger quotes Col. Killian quoting the same manual book, line, and paragraph in August, 1972.

Dan Rather is quoting the forger quoting Col Killian quoting the same manual, the same book, lines, and paragraph.

And nobody else anywhere can even identify the manual, much less read it.

[Andy from Chapel Hill]

I found the following at the Air Force web site

http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/pubs/obsolete_search.asp?Keyword=35-13

Result of search for 35-13
Short Title Date New
Short Title New Date Obsolete Date
AFR35-13 10/1/1990 AFI36-2605 6/1/1994 6/1/1994

Does this mean that 35-13 came into existence in 1990? Andy Grubbs, BSME, MBA (never took the PE exams....sigh)

[CholeraJoe]

The regulation is obsolete and is not available online. A FOIA request could take weeks.

When I last used it in 1990, it did indeed say what it is quoted as saying. Nevertheless, failure to take a flight physical has many different reasons. I missed mine in 1990 because I was in f*cking Saudi Arabia dodging SCUDs.