Posted on 09/12/2004 1:40:12 PM PDT by quidnunc

Dearborn, MI
bingo
The west with all of its determination to be fair has had its defenses neutralized. I too, would like to be fair. But we have to defend our own people, our own future, and western civilization's opportunity to extend fairness to even more people in the future. Think about the billions of humans who are alive today thanks to western agricultural and medical technology. We can do so much more, but we have to survive first. We have a moral obligation to survive.
Iranians are not Arabs.
Why do you think there are so many of these idiots in Europe?
Where does one get the data on that?
"But above all, before continuing with our killing spree let us stop and question our belief. We might just be wrong."
You might also want to ask yourself what the Bible means when it speaks of the "Whore of Babylon." (Just a little suggestion).
The socialist schools teach socialist ideas, while the degraded church capitulates to the same. No one ever hears the truth.
yes fair is fair. as you say, this Trojan Horse uses exactly that fairness, that we expect them to assimilate and promote the best for the USA. but it is only a ruse to turn the USA into an Islamic state. and the bad examples of those far overshadow the two (Malaysia and Turkey) that are more docile.
Hmmmmm........
But, do the trains run on time?
(That is and always has been the main question for socialists)
It's ironic that the population increase in the countries from which these civilizational attacks are emerging is largely due to oil wealth from the west, agricultural technology, and medical technology we have supplied them. I believe a solution is lurking in that sentence.
Of the Scandinavian countries, Denmark and Finland are much more strict in their immigration policies than the US.
Well, no guns in the hands of the Europeans. The Islamofascists appear to have plenty. Wonder why? The answer is well known in the US: if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
Socialist sheep deserve what they are going to get, and it won't be just a shearing.
datum.
yep. instead of improving their own countries and looking towards long-term futures, they fund and incite:
a) the destruction of Israel and the Jew
b) the destruction of anybody who helps the Jew and Israel
they are so ignorant of the reasonably responsible use of freedom that they come to destroy that which gives them, through various means, the ability to enjoy freedom.
therefore the ideology is that which fuels this and that ideology cannot be ignored as it was on 9/10/2001.
Sir/Madame, the US govt, under GWB, is doing the same thing with a group of Russian muslims. It has been posted numerous times here at FR. We are bringing them here, providing them housing, and welfare. If that is not "paying" them, I don't know how else it could be defined.
I agree that we are being made to pay for our support of Israel, which I argue has secular benefits and a religiously neutral moral purpose, as well as Judeo-Christian unity as a motivation. To see what I mean, consider the Holocaust from a simple human standpoint. Who was to blame? We all were, since we stood by when Hitler said to the world what he planned to do to Europe's Jews. Israel is a means for atonement, a way for the west to help Jews achieve security and livlihood in a place they wish to call their own. Yet with a mideast in the millions of square miles of rich lands, Israel presents a thorn in the side of Islam's pride. Why should we care? We shouldn't, even if we are told it will cost us. Under this threat, we can and should protect ourselves. But are we willing to consider what is required? This day after the third anniversary of 9/11 I fear not. Our response on 9/12 could have been much more sweeping. It's time we talk about what we will do after the next attack. It should be much more than regime change in a country or two. I would argue that Beslan is already such an incident. Where is the outrage today? It lives on in me, I can tell you.
Good point. Originally, a great Persian culture. But now they are mainly shia muslims. And to muslims, religion is first. Not country, not language, not anything else.
sunni and shia sects are often in conflict, but they will put aside their differences to fight non-believers.
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