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Hugh Hewitt's list of problems with CBS Documents
hughhewitt.com ^ | 09/12/2004 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 09/12/2004 9:39:44 AM PDT by Checkers

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To: Checkers
Angry with CBS? Contact info is as follows:
CBS Television Group 51 W 52nd St # 35 New York, NY 10019 (212) 975-4321
CBS News FAX is (212) 975-1998 (Print out Hugh's list of flaws with the documents and fax them.)
60 Minutes Spokesperson: Kelli Edwards 212-975-6795
CBS News Comments 212-975-3248. (Leave a comment on the answering machine)
60 Minutes 524 West 57th Street New York, NY 10019 212- 975-3247 CALL AND COMPLAIN!
60II@cbsnews.com

I have contacted CBS and encourage others to do the same.

Angry?... Some, but mostly I am laughing at CBS.

Everyone in America knows Dan Rather's documents are forgeries. It's truly funny watching Dan and the old media try to pretend that the documents are authentic.

41 posted on 09/12/2004 11:07:21 AM PDT by RJL
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To: Checkers
What did Dan Rather know, and when did he know it?
42 posted on 09/12/2004 11:08:01 AM PDT by kennedy
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To: Checkers
Truth in the mainstream media is hanging on a very thin thread.
It's getting to the point where credibility has turned into a phrase.
Yet these media people keep looking their customers straight in the face while attacking the ones with increasing customer (reader/viewer) bases.
By not giving their reader/viewers what they are yearning for, namely the uncensored, unspun truth economic hardships crop up.
Entrenched, entrenched up to the bitter layoff and reorganization end.
43 posted on 09/12/2004 11:41:52 AM PDT by hermgem
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To: mlbford2
Rather called me a right wing-nut, pajama wearing, fringe element, partisan operative. I can't tell is this is good or bad. And am I able to enhance my resume with any of this?

As long as they are NOT the black pajamas Kerry's buddies wore, it should be all good.

44 posted on 09/12/2004 11:44:27 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: Checkers
CBS News Comments 212-975-3248. (Leave a comment on the answering machine)

I called and it just rang and rang and rang. I think they've disconnected the answering service (LOL)!

45 posted on 09/12/2004 11:58:12 AM PDT by SW6906
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To: SW6906
peterduncan.com proves the memos didn't come from a typewriter.

hughhewitt.com nicely sums up the rest.

INDC journal forces the boston Globe to back off.

60 minutes has used fake memos in other stories before.

Washington Times says the memos were forged.

Washingtom Post seems like they are giving Dan a chance to fess up before the avalanche of evidenc buries him.

46 posted on 09/12/2004 12:00:45 PM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: Drango
*Lt Col Killian didn't type;

Secretary would have done it.

*Bloggers have been overwhelmed with e-mails from active duty and retire dmilitary who scoff at the form of the memos;

They are not so dissimilar from attachments found in files released by the Bush Campaign. Apparently the ANG was very . . . loose, casual in it's handling and drafting of memos.

*Typewriters with proportional spacing were rare in '72/3;

IBM Executive, with a 'walnut' based on the Times New Roman 'book font', might appear a close match.

*Typewriters with superscripting capabilites were rare in '72/3;

The ONLY place in the documents released, to date, in which a superscript "th" is found is in Bush's cumulative military records, apparently filled out year by year. In 1968, somebody played around with a superscript "th", for some reason. All subsequent usage of "th", on the SAME FORM, are simply typewritten lower case. Out of hundreds of instances of the use of "th" in all the documents, only on this one line, in this one document, is a superscript "th" found. What's more, it doesn't even come close to matching the superscript "th" used in the CBS memos. Instead, those match the superscript automatically created by MS Word 2000 (and possibly 97, as well), using Times New Roman, or perhaps Palatino or something very close. If one isn't careful, typing "th" after a number will always be converted by MS Word 2000, by default, to upper case "th". It appears to be a case where a sloppy forger simply didn't account for all the MS Word auto-corrections.

The objection might be is that there's this undated summary, from somewhere, again a very casual informal looking document (which may have been ANG SOP, and is frustrating looking back on it, now - you don't get that plain paper sloppiness, extensive use of PO Box addresses, etc. with the Swift Vets/Navy documentation from Vietnam (go Navy)). That document has a premable concerning the Freedom of Info Act, which passed NOV 1974. So it might have seemed a big deal in late 74/early 75. But it's also possible that office machines with superscripting were becoming available by Christmas 74/75. That's only two years before the start of the Apple Computers.

*Typewriters with perfect centering ability were non-existent '72/3;

The IBM Composer was available in the mid-60s are could justify and center proportional text. But justification was a two pass operation, for every line. Perhaps the same for centering. However, someone might have taken the time to set up mag tape assist Composer with a pre-centered header. Or they may just have made copies. Then the question would be, do those letterheads in the CBS memos match too closely with computer centered text to have been done on a 1960's era Composer. In addition, some have suggested this was simply sent out to a printer. However, it's an awfully cheap looking letterhead for a print shop, to be honest. It might be that Composer was used, in house, informally, to run off masters which were then copied for use as memos. There do even appear to be slight differences in the fonts from the main text, even between lines in the same letterhead. But that could be due to FAXing/scanning errors, and one would have to see the original documents (which CBS apparently DOES NOT have). Or - they may just be what they appear to be, cheap forgeries.

*Typewriters with the "kerning" function didn't exist in '72/3;

"ay" is clearly 'kerned' in one CBS memo. There is no suggestion this was possible with the IBM Composer or Executive. The simplest explanation - it's an MS Word forgery.

*Most experts, from Dr.Cartwright at Rice, the above-referenced Dr. Bouffard and Farrell Shiver, range from certain to almost certain in their conclusions that the docs are not legit;

They'd have to. How does Occam's Razor go - simplest explanation that accurately fits the facts?

*The fake docs are easily and exactly reproduced on modern word-processing equipment, underscoring the ease with which the bad forgery could have been produced contrasted with the near impossibility of Lt Colonel Killian's producing them in 192/3;

The kerning, the letter spacing, the line up of words, line spacing, everything, suggests just by crude overlays that those alignments and lines say the CBS memeos are clearly a product of MS Word which people have been using to make these overlay matches.

But he leaves out SOMETHING CRITICAL. IT'S THE FIRST . . THING . . ONE . . NOTICES.


THE SIGNATURES DON'T MATCH!
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47 posted on 09/12/2004 12:24:15 PM PDT by sevry
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To: hermgem
It's getting to the point where credibility has turned into a phrase.

Yes.

48 posted on 09/12/2004 12:25:10 PM PDT by syriacus (Kerry lied, while honorable men died. Benedict Arnold REALLY was a war hero before he was a traitor.)
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To: syriacus

Rather can go to his grave claiming these documents are true, but the real truth is this: The evidence is out in the public domain and the verdic has already been rendered.... CBS is guilty of misconduct!


49 posted on 09/12/2004 12:38:28 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Use in a well ventilated area)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Hmmmm? I believe Rush said on Friday that it's common knowledge the documents were GIVEN TO THE DNC who in turn GAVE THEM TO THE KERRY CAMPAIGN who in turn GAVE THEM TO CBS.

I don't really care who gave them to the DNC. The DNC had a fiduciary duty to expose these fraudulent documents being perpetrated against a sitting President. Failing to do so only further supports them as the "crooked, lying bunch" (a quote by John Kerry).


50 posted on 09/12/2004 1:08:41 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: Checkers

Until they cough up the originals so they can be put under a microscope to determine if the ink is sprayed on the surface as per a modern printer or the ink is embeded as per any typewriter..you got didly squat. Rag content of the paper, the ink componets and the size of the paper need to be subjected to scientific test..along with carbon dating of the paper.


51 posted on 09/12/2004 1:18:35 PM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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