Posted on 09/12/2004 7:36:34 AM PDT by Keyes2000mt
A: "Some people say that the war on terror is an issue and I say, 'what issue?' We have people wanting to kill us, this is not an abstraction, it is not a joke and if we don't defend ourselves against them they will kill us in gruesome ways like we saw in Russia. This is not an issue, this is not an option it is a reality and we either deal with it or we die. What do you do about the war on terror is like asking do you want to die. No we don't, therefore we must defend ourselves against this threat, and we have no option and no choice. The issue is how are we going to fight it most effectively, how are we going to make sure we go after the terrorists and pre-empt their violence and destroy them before they destroy us.
"I think we have to destroy their infrastructure and topple the governments that are willing to aid and abet them and possibly give them weapons of mass destruction that could kill hundreds of thousands of Americans. That's what President Bush did and that's what he did in Iraq. Based on the information he had, if he would have acted any other way he would have been irresponsible. I would rather have a President that is able to make a tough decision based on the information he's got to go into Iraq and do what's necessary to prevent weapons of mass destruction that could kill 100,000 people in Chicago than to have somebody that is weighing things out and waiting for the wisdom of hindsight to defend our people. The wisdom of hindsight will leave hundreds of thousands of people dead. The wisdom of hindsight arrives too late to make the decision and that's why I think John Kerry is unfit to be president. He is clearly somebody that would rely on the wisdom of hindsight and that would get us all killed."
Everytime I listen to Keyes I am reminded of what the conservative basics are. Regardless of the non-pc things he says, he is the most straight shooting, articulate conservative I know. He has taken on a huge challenge and if he does nothing more than get people to thinking differently about the role of government in their lives, the campaign will be useful.
Q: You recently rattled some members of your own party when you called Mary Cheney, the lesbian daughter of Vice President Dick Cheney, "a hedonist" and added that homosexuality is "selfish hedonism." Have you backed off of those comments at all or is that still your stand?So much for the claim Keyes "attacked" the veep's daughter at the convention. Another media myth.A: I want to explain that. I never called Mary Cheney anything. That never happened. What happened was, I was asked a question about gay marriage and gave pretty much the same answer I just gave you...
To say that you can have for the basis for a marriage, a pleasure-seeking relationship does not make any sense. I made that argument which I think is perfectly clear and perfectly logical and I was then asked if I would apply that description to Mary Cheney. I said as far as she is a lesbian and engaged in that type of relationship; by definition she would fall into that category. What am I supposed to say? Well, no because she is a Republican and the daughter of the vice president, out of respect I will exempt her from the truth. That makes no sense.
Go Keyes!
What a quote!
Something occurred to me while reading this that I've not heard pointed out before. I may have missed it but I want to get it out there for consumption in case it hasn't.
Often, when the "reparations" issue comes up, an opponent of the idea comes back with "So you want Oprah and Michael Jordan and other rich blacks not to have to pay taxes?"
It occurs to me that this is actually NOT what's implied by Keyes' statements on the matter.
He says that he wants to do this in order to repair economic damage done to slave descendent's, and do it for a generation (or two) in order to fuel economic achievement among the target group.
Well, the fact is that those of a certain age - at least 40 if not younger, HAVE achieved the most of what they are going to. the wealth accumulation of Oprah Winfrey has occurred for years and is an ongoing thing as is the contribution to the economy which arises from that process. Same with Jordan and others. There is no need to advance THEIR economic state, and little long term gain for - at this late date - trying to advance the economic state of less wealthy blacks.
No, it seems to me that if such a plan were properly applied, it would have a specific definition of what constituted a "generation."
Perhaps everyone 25 and under down to those born within one year from the effective date of the legislation. Few of that generation are so wealthy as to defy the logic of the plan, and they are the people who will have it in their power to pursue the sort of education and/or diligence to make a real economic difference in their lives and communities.
Does this not seem logical?
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No.
I agree with the honorable Mr. Keyes, however the surprise won't be generated in Illinois.
Q: In the past you have said you would like to eliminate income taxes in favor of a national sales tax. Is that still your stand?Abolish the 16th Amendment ping.A: "I think the oppressive burden of taxation is a discouragement to productivity and job creation and so I've never seen a tax increase that I liked. I'm an opponent of federal income tax. I think it's a system that heavily damages our economic prospects by taking control and the resources out of the hands of people. I want to see it abolished and replaced with a national sales tax, a system that leaves the control of all our earnings in our own hands until we decide how to save it, how to invest it and how to spend it. Instead of taxing our productivity it will only tax us when we are in the public market place."
Which goes to show, it takes more than articulation and strait shooting to be voted into a position of power in the Government.
In terms of liberty, privacy and prosperity, the elimination of the income tax and the implementation of the FairTax is without a doubt the best possible thing we can do for ourselves, our children and our grandchildren.
I for one am grateful to Alan Keyes for helping keep this critical issue at the forefront for the last decade.
More and more Americans are waking up to what needs to be done, thanks in part to his leadership.
Why do people find this so difficult? Perhaps it's because they're uncomfortable with the idea of submitting to an authority greater than themselves. But Jesus is the Truth. What other authority should we serve?
Within the context of the proposal, sink....not as a justification for the plan overall.
It's merely an answer to the one specific complaint about exempting rich blacks. I'm still not sold on the plan as a whole.
Nor, IMO, are reparations morally justified to blacks living 150 years after the victims of slavery.
As I said to sink above, I'm speaking within the parameters of the proposal only to the charge that it's not right to exempt rich blacks. I'm not defending every aspect ofthe proposal.
The reason for the choice of 25 (which is admitedly arbitrary and could easily be 21 or 18) is to pick a point at which the vast majority of those falling under the plan would not yet have begun the process of wealth building and would still be young enough to potentially make life-decisions differently based on the exemption.
Why are you arguing a point I'm not making?
Like the sound of your own voice (metaphoricly speaking)?
It's rather useless for you to reply to a post which says "I'm not defending reperations" with reasoning which argues against them, eh?
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