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Divide in Democrat's camp - mixed messages and lost momentum.
Los Angeles Times ^ | September 12, 2004 | Matea Gold and Mark Z. Barabak

Posted on 09/12/2004 2:11:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Party advisors' discussion on how to forge a 'new direction' for the candidate leads to mixed messages and lost momentum.

NEW YORK — Even as he fights to regain momentum in the presidential race, Sen. John F. Kerry faces a debate among advisors over the tone and content of his message, according to insiders and other Democrats familiar with the campaign's discussions.

One continued disagreement is over how sharply the Democratic presidential nominee — as opposed to campaign surrogates — should attack President Bush. Also in dispute is how much change would be too much for Kerry to advocate in these anxious times.

In one compromise, Kerry has taken to using words "new direction" rather than "change."

Although Kerry strategists agree the Massachusetts senator needs to be more aggressive, they remain divided over how best to communicate his critique of Bush. That lack of consensus, some Democrats say, has exacerbated Kerry's inconsistency on the campaign trail, undermining his ability to drive home his central arguments that Bush has neglected middle-class Americans and made the country less safe through his policies in Iraq.

While opinion polls have shown Bush politically vulnerable on the economy and the war, the surveys also have found that Kerry is an unknown quantity to many voters who have little sense of where he would take the country as president.

The Kerry campaign is "far from where it needs to be," said Ed Sarpolus, an independent pollster in Michigan, a state both sides are targeting. "The Bush campaign set out with a message, and that's what they're sticking with. Kerry has to be more forceful, more dominant, more consistent."

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: campaign; election; flipflop; kerry; loser; message
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1 posted on 09/12/2004 2:11:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"Kerry has to be more forceful, more dominant, more consistent"

I'm going to wait right here for that to happen, and I'll sing a song while I wait.

1,000,000,000,000 bottles of beer on the wall, 1,000,000,000,000 bottles of beer...


2 posted on 09/12/2004 2:15:39 AM PDT by HarryCaul
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To: HarryCaul
This man is not presidential material.


Democratic Presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass, speaks at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation's 34th annual Legislative Conference Dinner in Washington Saturday, Sept. 11, 2004. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)

3 posted on 09/12/2004 2:19:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I hope the new Clinton people are having shouting matches and fist fights with the Mary Beth Cahill, Stephanie Cutter types.


4 posted on 09/12/2004 2:22:32 AM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
the surveys also have found that Kerry is an unknown quantity to many voters who have little sense of where he would take the country as president.

No, actually the voters have gained some sense of where he would take the country, hence his drastic fall in the polls.

5 posted on 09/12/2004 2:26:36 AM PDT by Casloy (qs)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
disagreement is over how sharply the Democratic presidential nominee — as opposed to campaign surrogates — should attack President Bush

Democrats shouldn't attack President Bush at all. Instead, they should find and present better, more capable candidates. Unfortunately for all of us, they begin with inferior and demogogic candidates, then rely on attacks and divisiveness to get them elected.

6 posted on 09/12/2004 2:28:29 AM PDT by Tax Government (Wage unrelenting economic war on the illiterate, stupid lying bastards at CBS.)
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To: dennisw


7 posted on 09/12/2004 2:30:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hillary is firmly in control....


8 posted on 09/12/2004 2:33:14 AM PDT by traumer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Kerry should try another balloon drop.


9 posted on 09/12/2004 2:34:14 AM PDT by greasepaint
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To: Tax Government
they begin with inferior and demogogic candidates

I thought they had already lost the election when I saw the field of ten mental and moral midgets they started with.

10 posted on 09/12/2004 2:34:55 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Graybeard - Illinois resident - Keyes voter)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The entire raison d'etre for Kerry's campaign is "I'm not Bush". I'm sorry, this simply will not do: people tend to vote FOR something not just AGAINST something.

President Bush has set forth a vision, and he has a series of clear ideas: the chief amongst them is very simple - victory in the War on Terror. John Kerry is talking about sensitivity and building coalitions, but there is no substitute for saying straightforwardly - victory is our goal.

I suspect Kerry is going to go the way of his former master Dukakis. It will be interesting to see if the Democrats learn anything from the experience.

Regards, Ivan

11 posted on 09/12/2004 2:37:22 AM PDT by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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Kerry has to be more forceful, more dominant, more consistent

Translation: Kerry is too much of a flip-flopping weenie.

12 posted on 09/12/2004 2:41:02 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr (Mainstream press is neither.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There is one of their problems in that photo. Real men don't drink their water out of bottles. OOPS, is Mary Beth a man?


13 posted on 09/12/2004 2:41:55 AM PDT by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU (Democrats unglued), I trust this post will make you sick)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
they remain divided over how best to communicate his critique of Bush.

Why he won't, can't win.  This is not how leaders conduct themselves.

14 posted on 09/12/2004 2:43:28 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It's been said before, but I have to say it again: This guy gives me the creeps.


15 posted on 09/12/2004 2:51:22 AM PDT by bayareablues
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To: quantim
"Party advisors' discussion".....in real words, it means they are in total chaos
16 posted on 09/12/2004 2:54:38 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think the key word in the subtitle is, of course, "forge."


17 posted on 09/12/2004 2:59:24 AM PDT by Hank All-American (Free Men, Free Minds, Free Markets baby!)
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To: HarryCaul

LOL!


18 posted on 09/12/2004 3:00:32 AM PDT by capt. norm (Rap is to music what the Etch-A-Sketch is to art.)
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To: traumer
Hillary is firmly in control....

Well, Kerry certainly isn't - though he is....ah, what a mess.

19 posted on 09/12/2004 3:02:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Hank All-American
I think the key word in the subtitle is, of course, "forge."

The man morphs. No metal there.

20 posted on 09/12/2004 3:04:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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