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Critics countered on Kerry record of inactive service - Naval Reserve tour is defended
Boston Globe ^ | Michael Kranish

Posted on 09/11/2004 12:37:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

WASHINGTON -- On Nov. 21, 1969, John F. Kerry made a crucial decision: He wanted to leave active duty in the Navy in order to run for Congress.

"Because various political figures have advised that I move quickly to establish my organization, I respectfully request that I be released from active duty as soon as possible," Kerry, who was serving as an aide to an admiral in Brooklyn, wrote in a memo.

Kerry won early release and was transferred to the Naval Reserve, which the Kerry presidential campaign says required that Kerry do no more than report his whereabouts in case of an emergency call-up. In the past, Kerry has estimated he shaved between two and five months from his active duty; this week, a campaign spokesman said it saved about six weeks.

With the revival of questions about whether President Bush fulfilled his National Guard duty, some of Kerry's critics have begun to focus on what Kerry did in the Naval Reserve, asking why he hasn't released records of his reserve service. The Kerry campaign says that he was on inactive status at the time and did not have to appear for Naval Reserve duty.

"He had no obligation," Kerry spokesman Michael Meehan said.

"The only obligation was that he inform the Navy where he could be reached."....................

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1969; election; kerry; kranish; navalreserves
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The rules only apply when the Democrats and old media say so.
1 posted on 09/11/2004 12:37:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Authentic Document Proves Kerry in Cambodia

This just discovered by Commissar from FOIA request of official US Navy files:


2 posted on 09/11/2004 12:40:12 AM PDT by fuzzy122 (GBGB [God Bless George Bush] and the Armed Forces ... Arnold and Zell too!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I'd double check those documents, if I were them.


3 posted on 09/11/2004 12:41:02 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Thank you Rush Limbaugh-godfather of the New Media.)
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To: fuzzy122
Hey! I just got this popup message!


4 posted on 09/11/2004 12:42:14 AM PDT by fuzzy122 (GBGB [God Bless George Bush] and the Armed Forces ... Arnold and Zell too!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
some of Kerry's critics have begun to focus on what Kerry did in the Naval Reserve, asking why he hasn't released records of his reserve service.

Funny, the Kerry critics I see on FR (who have a double-life as political operatives who sinisterly work for Bush while sitting in their pajamas) want sKerry to sign Form 180 to release all of his military records.

Why didn't the Globe mention Form 180?

5 posted on 09/11/2004 12:43:28 AM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: fuzzy122

LOL! Quick -- send this to Dan Rather; it will save him!


6 posted on 09/11/2004 12:45:38 AM PDT by maryz
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To: fuzzy122; Jeff Chandler; GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY; All
***Kerry run for election to the U.S. House in 1972 during which he found it necessary to suppress reproduction of the cover picture appearing on his own book, The New Soldier. His political opponent pointed out that it depicted several unkempt youths crudely handling an American flag to mock the famous photo of the U.S. Marines at Iwo Jima.***


7 posted on 09/11/2004 12:46:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Kerry spokesman Michael Meehan also still claims Kerry was in Cambodia. Meehan is such an outright liar.


8 posted on 09/11/2004 12:47:19 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (9/11 is what matters, not 3 Purple Hearts)
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To: Jeff Chandler

them = they


9 posted on 09/11/2004 12:48:02 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Thank you Rush Limbaugh-godfather of the New Media.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

preemptive damage control...


10 posted on 09/11/2004 12:48:29 AM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Gee, another article by Kranish, Kerry's campaign biographer.

No bias here. Nothing to see.

Move on (.org).

11 posted on 09/11/2004 12:49:06 AM PDT by rebel_yell2
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Authentic Document Proves Kerry in Cambodia

This just discovered by Commissar from FOIA request of official US Navy files:


12 posted on 09/11/2004 12:49:30 AM PDT by fuzzy122 (GBGB [God Bless George Bush] and the Armed Forces ... Arnold and Zell too!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Two points:

1. I think this article about his afirmative obligations is wrong.

2. He also had negative obligations like as a Navy reserve officer not to consort with the enemy.


13 posted on 09/11/2004 12:50:23 AM PDT by JLS
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"Because various political figures have advised that I move quickly to establish my organization,

Even back then, foreign leaders wanted him to be president? WOW!

14 posted on 09/11/2004 12:51:19 AM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz; Cincinatus' Wife; GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY; ProudVet77; Jeff Chandler; ambrose; rebel_yell2; ...

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15 posted on 09/11/2004 12:53:25 AM PDT by fuzzy122 (GBGB [God Bless George Bush] and the Armed Forces ... Arnold and Zell too!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is one of the few times I believe what Three Bandaids says. After I had served almost four year active duty in the Navy (1972-1976), as an enlisted man, I was granted an almost 3 month early release from active duty to start college. The regulations at the time allowed a sailer to be separated from active duty 30 days before beginning college, but not more than 90 days before expiration of your active enlistment. My active duty would have been finished in early Aug of 1972, but I had been already been accepted at a university for the summer semester of 1976 which began in early June. So, I requested and was granted an early release in early May of 76.

Because I had served nearly 4 years, I was not required to serve in the active reserve for my remaining 2 years of military obligation (back then it was a 6 year obligation not 8 as it is today). I did serve voluntarily in a reserve unit for about 10 months after returning home for the extra pay. But it was extremely boring, so I quit. Because I wasn't required to serve in the active reserve they said OK. I spent the rest of my time in the inactive reserve. I didn't have to do anything except let them know where I lived. In July 1978 I had completed my full obligation and was honorably discharged.

So, this one time Kerry is telling the truth. He did not have to do active reserve time - he just had to be available in case of a call up.


16 posted on 09/11/2004 12:53:40 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Ok, I can prove that's a forgery. 1969 was one of those years in which there wasn't a 4 January.

Sincerely,

Terry McCaulife


17 posted on 09/11/2004 12:57:00 AM PDT by Casloy (qs)
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To: Sola Veritas

I was enlisted Navy 70-74, and we had a different contract then Kerry. We were regular USN, whereas he was USNR. I have to admit I don't know what his obligation was, but from what I gather he had an active reserve committment. There are some other strange issues like the date of his discharge being 1978. That would make it almost 12 years since his enlistment.
We need more facts. But as W's numbers keep getting better, and F keeps tanking, it seems like the desire to dig deeper is going away.


18 posted on 09/11/2004 1:00:25 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (9/11 is what matters, not 3 Purple Hearts)
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To: fuzzy122

Thank you for the LINK fuzzy122.

We remember our brave fellow Americans.

We honor our brave military fighting terrorism.

We will defend the United States of America.


19 posted on 09/11/2004 1:01:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: fuzzy122

That memo is an obvious forgery. We all know that the real one was from Nixon himself!


20 posted on 09/11/2004 1:01:43 AM PDT by blanknoone (Republicans need to acknowledge that campaign finance reform failed and start setting up 527s.)
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