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Please delete this if it is not deemed appropriate for this forum. I found it to be quite fascinating....esp. the part about the liberal media sitting on the story for a week... OCTOBER SURPRISE: KERRY'S NAVY RECORD HAS BEEN LEAKED Posted By: Rayelan Date: Sunday, 10 October 2004, 9:50 p.m. THE OCTOBER SURPRISE! Presidential Candidate John Kerry was LESS than Honorably Discharged from the United States Navy Over a week ago, I wrote an article about John Kerry having received a less than honorable discharge from the Navy. In the article, I speculated that, since the Navy was refusing to release anymore information about this, they were trying to protect him. I have been assured that no one in the Navy is trying to protect John Kerry. While none of my Sources know what the charges would have been that caused him to receive a less than honorable discharge, most believe it was due to his 1971 meeting with top Viet Cong negotiator to the Paris Peace talks. John Kerry was still serving in the Navy at that time. Steve Nash, an ex-Navy man who makes it his business to see that men do not claim to have had military records they didn’t earn and deserve, says that: “Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore... Kerry has adamantly refused to authorize the release of his military records. Most think it's because of his phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after his ostensible service term had ended! This is very much out of the ordinary, and highly suspect. There are 5 classes of Discharge: Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable. My guess is that he was Discharged in the '70s, but not Honorably. This will blow up in his face before October 15th. Read the rest of Steve Nash’s comments My Sources believe that Kerry’s service record has been systematically cleaned up starting under the Carter administration. They also believe that as soon as he was elected to the Senate, during Reagan’s time, he or friends of his saw to it that the records for his medals were re-written. This is probably the reason that John Lehman, Secretary of the Navy under President Reagan has no knowledge of ever signing Kerry’s Silver Star Citation. According to Sources, Kerry’s files have been leaked. I do not know if they were leaked by the Navy or if the leaked files came from his FBI Files. It doesn’t matter where they came from! They are out there now.... and they are NOT forgeries made up using the Microsoft Word program. These are bonefide government documents which will withstand all verifications.” One of my sources said the following: “I fully expect to see some evidence of a less-than-honorable discharge for Kerry.” My source went on to say that: ”Copies of Kerry's service record have already been given to certain news outlets [ABC/CBS/NBC/NYT/LAT] a week ago. They've been sitting on them since. When the time is right more copies will be furnished to more friendly news outlets and the story will not only be that Kerry's original discharge was something less than Honorable but that the liberal media outlets mentioned above sat on the story trying to protect Kerry. Since I have already been told that the Democrats are creating their OWN October Surprise, I wonder which one is going to give the biggest BANG! In my opinion, the only thing that could knock the story of a Presidential Candidate who was less than honorably discharged from the military out of the headlines is an attack like 9.11. Do you think those, who want Kerry to win no matter what the cost, are capable of creating another 9.11? Or will the cooler heads of the Democratic wing prevail and quietly and privately assure their ranks that this is for the best. It means Hillary will be able to run in 2008 and become the first woman President. I have been saving an email I received for the right moment, and I think that this is that right moment. Take a look and the article I will post in the thread… it appears to me that someone, somewhere in the Democratic Party has already

Sorry- I'll fix that after I go to Dunkin donuts!

Meanwhile (Mutter's)

Japan, US hold strategy session on North Korea, Iraq

TOKYO (AFP) Oct 12, 2004

Japan and the United States in a strategy session Tuesday on world hotspots agreed that six-nation talks were the best way to resolve the crisis over North Korea's nuclear ambitions, a diplomat said.

Visiting US Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage and Japanese Vice Foreign Minister Yukio Takeuchi concurred that North Korea "must return to the talks without conditions," a Japanese diplomat who attended the five-hour talks said.

"We agreed that the six-way process was the most realistic way to peacefully solve this crisis," the diplomat said.

The six-nation talks -- which include China, Japan, the two Koreas, Russia and the United States -- have stalemated after a year with North Korea vowing to step up its nuclear drive.

US presidential candidate John Kerry has pledged that if he defeats George W. Bush in the November 2 election he will launch direct bilateral talks with North Korea.

The diplomat said the United States and Japan also discussed Iraq and the need to improve public safety and develop the political process of the war-torn nation.

The Japanese delegation told its US counterparts that a tighter Japan-US alliance would improve stability in the Far East, the diplomat said, adding that the two sides also discussed proposals to realign US forces in Japan.

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