Posted on 09/10/2004 10:08:54 PM PDT by RatherBiased.com
September 10, 2004, XX:YY:ZZ EDT
Dan Rather's defense of himself tonight, while probably impressive to shallow observers was far from convincing. Here's a list of things he ignored, did not properly address, or concealed from viewers. Feel free to send us your suggestions to this live fisking. For the transcript, click here.
Not coincidentally, Rather also did not mention that one of its main validators, retired Maj. General Bobby Hodges is accusing 60 Minutes staff of lying to him in order to get him to say the supposed Killian memos were authentic. ABC News has the story:
"Hodges, Killian's supervisor at the Guard, tells ABC News that he feels CBS misled him about the documents they uncovered. According to Hodges, CBS told him the documents were 'handwritten' and after CBS read him excerpts he said, 'well if he wrote them that's what he felt.'
"Hodges also said he did not see the documents in the 70's and he cannot authenticate the documents or the contents. His personal belief is that the documents have been 'computer-generated' and are a 'fraud.'"
The Washington Post reported earlier today that CBS considered Hodges its "trump card":
"A senior CBS official, who asked not to be named because CBS managers did not want to go beyond their official statement, named one of the network's sources as retired Maj. Gen. Bobby W. Hodges, the immediate superior of the documents' alleged author, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian. He said a CBS reporter read the documents to Hodges over the phone and Hodges replied that "these are the things that Killian had expressed to me at the time."
"These documents represent what Killian not only was putting in memoranda, but was telling other people," the CBS News official said. "Journalistically, we've gone several extra miles."
The official said the network regarded Hodges's comments as "the trump card" on the question of authenticity, as he is a Republican who acknowledged that he did not want to hurt Bush. Hodges, who declined to grant an on-camera interview to CBS, did not respond to messages left on his home answering machine in Texas.
Looks like jokers are no longer wild.
"Do not passively accept a copy as the sole basis of a case. Every copy, intentionally or unintentionally, is in some way false to the original. In fact, modern copiers and computer printers are so good that they permit easy fabrication of quality forgeries."
In his defense tonight, Rather admitted that "the documents CBS started with were also photocopies."
"Well, they are compatible with the way business was done at that time. They are compatible with the man that I remember, Jerry Killian, being. I don't see anything in the documents that are discordant with what were the times, what were the situation and what were the people that were involved."
Reached by the AP today, Strong was even more lukewarm toward the documents' authenticity. His former colleague, Retired Col. Maurice Udell called them fakes: "That's not true. I was there. I knew Jerry Killian. I went to Vietnam with Jerry Killian in 1968."
Although he tried to minimize the typographical concerns raised by many critics, Rather nonetheless tried to defend himself in this area. He failed, however. On the superscript issue, which Rather tried to explain away by throwing out the red herring that "Critics claim typewriters didn't have that ability in the 70s. But some models did."
The problem with this statement is that Rather fails to list any such typewriters which might have the capability or how a measely Air National Guard office would be able to afford such expensive machines. Simply showing a photocopy of a letter in Bush's official file which originated from the Army's national office is no proof at all.
Assuming Killian somehow had access to an IBM Selectric Composer (or similar model), Blogger Jeff Harrell wondered what one of the CBS memos would look like if typed in one of the re-famous devices. His results are yet more evidence that the CBS docs are forgeries.
My one area of expertise in all of this is my contemporary military experience as a company commander and adjutant involved with the production and administration of various military documents. Although my experience was with the Army, I share the many observations of other military observers whom have noted the many red flags raised by these documents. Sufficient, in my view, to declare these documents forgeries on that basis alone.
I have read with great interest the opinions of typographic experts and evaluated their opinions through the lens of my own experience with typewriters of that era and with computers and word processors since the 80's. There can be no doubt of this - I would love to bring this case in court and would be confident of obtaining a conviction even considering the minor detail that I have no law degree nor license to practice.
I believe that CBS has gone beyond the trivial charge of bad or biased reporting and is now treading on grounds of criminal conspiracy to commit fraud.
Times New Roman hasn't. There's another thread here about its orgins. I believe it was the 80's.
Like Dan Rather, you are confusing the vital difference of "what was around" and "what was available on a typewriter in 1970".
"Times New Roman" was a typeface designed in 1931 for the newspaper "The Times" of London. The prior typeface used by "The Times" is now called "Times Old Roman".
After it's introduction on October 3, 1932, Times New Roman was used by "The Times" as it's typeface for 40 years.
So, Dan Rather is correct that Times New Roman existed in 1970.
Howver,.......and this is an extremely vital however.......IT WAS NOT AVAILABLE AS A TYPEWRITER FONT!
Times New Roman first became available for typing (which is not the same as typesetting with a Linotype machine for printing press use) in 1980 when it was include as one of the many available fonts in word processing computers.
In my prior post, I mentioned "Linotype machines". A Linotype machine is a machine used by newspapers and publishing houses to mecahanically set the printing typeface that, in earlier times, had to be set by hand. A "Linotype" is not a "typewriter".
LOL
One of our local radio talk show hosts said yesterday that he had worked with this producer at one time (the woman - I can't recall her name at this moment) and said she was by far the most blatantly partisan leftist "journalist" he had ever worked with. She was actually angry when Seattle police were cleared of charges of wrong-doing. Her father called the show and said she had swallowed the leftist mantra hook, line, and sinker, and that he was ashamed of her.
A small point, but MemoGate concerned the leaked Intelligence Committe memos. It might be better to refer to this as RatherGate so as not to confuse the two while also pointing the finger of suspicion where it belongs. Especially since we're now being viewed by a larger audience, it will pay to be clear.
Not even close.
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