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Man named in Bush memo left Guard before document was written
Dallas Morning News ^ | 9-10-04

Posted on 09/10/2004 7:06:51 PM PDT by ambrose

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To: Shermy

Hmmm is right.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1211690/posts

Anatomy of a Forgery


By The Prowler




Published 9/10/2004 12:09:06 AM






More than six weeks ago, an opposition research staffer for the Democratic National Committee received documents purportedly written by President George W. Bush's Texas Air National Guard squadron commander, the late Col. Jerry Killian.

The oppo researcher claimed the source was "a retired military officer." According to a DNC staffer, the documents were seen by both senior staff members at the DNC, as well as the Kerry campaign.

"More than a couple people heard about the papers," says the DNC staffer. "I've heard that they ended up with the Kerry campaign, for them to decide to how to proceed, and presumably they were handed over to 60 Minutes, which used them the other night. But I know this much. When there was discussion here, there were doubts raised about their authenticity."





181 posted on 09/10/2004 11:26:28 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: plushaye

And considering this is in the Dallas paper, I have a feeling he'll find out about it....


182 posted on 09/10/2004 11:27:02 PM PDT by stands2reason (Limousine Liberal--a man who has his cake, eats his cake, and complains that other people have cake.)
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To: stands2reason
Here it is:

Posted on 09/09/2004 11:57:05 PM PDT by litany_of_lies

The two memos refer to a flight physical and a flight review board, both IAW ("in accordance with") AFM 35-13. But that would stand for "Air Force Manual" 35-13, and manuals are guidelines only. They have no regulatory authority. No one takes a physical exam, flight or not, IAW a manual. Manuals relate to operational procedures, not enforcement of standards. Especially would a "flight review board" not be convened IAW a manual. Enforceable regulatory authority in the military derives only from two sources: the Uniform Code of Military Justice and orders. Regulations are a type of written order issued under the authority of a flag-rank officer. (In the Army, for example, regulations are issued under the authority of the Chief of Staff down to installation-commander level.)

What governs official procedures or requirements for physicals is a regulation, not a manual, because a regulation is an order and a manual is not. A regulation has much the same effect as law. Regulations are governing documents that must be adhered to, not advisory publications that permit ad-hoc deviations, as manuals do.

So I browsed over to the Air Force's official web site for its publications, http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/. There I searched for AFM 35-13 without success. The intelligent search engine recommended using only the numbers, so I searched using only 35-13. Result:

35-13 has been rescinded or superceded by another publication. Additional information is available at Obsolete Publications.

So I went there and discovered, sure enough, that there was an Air Force Regulation 35-13, but no AF Manual 35-13 is listed. AFR 35-13 was superceded in 1990 by AFI36-2605 (Air Force Instruction, i.e., the same as a regulation).

So I Googled AFI36-2605 and voilá! Here it is.

This instruction implements Air Force Policy Directive 36-26, Military Force Management, and Department of Defense Instruction (DODI) 7280.3, Special Pay for Foreign Language Proficiency. It prescribes all procedures for administering the Air Force Military Personnel Testing System and Foreign Language Proficiency Pay (FLPP) program.

Which is to say, this publication has nothing to do with flight physicals.

From all this I conclude that the Killian-signed documents are forgeries, forged by someone without a very good knowledge of military correspondence or Air Force publications or procedures. Based on the Air Force's own online library of current and obsolete publications, I conclude that there never was an Air Force Manual 35-13, although there was an AF Regulation by that number. But a lieutenant colonel would never have made such a fundamental error as using "AFM" twice when he meant AFR.

Furthermore, it is likely that whatever AFR 35-13 governed, flight physicals wasn't it. My contention is buttressed by two points:

A. AFR 35-13's successor publication is a personnel management instruction (regulation).

B. This online copy of a senior NCO's routine reassignment orders, dated 1954, which cites AFR 35-13 as an authority for the transfer. A publication governing personnel assignments doesn't also govern enforcement of flight physicals.

So the forger said the physical was to be done IAW a manual, not a regulation, and named a manual that never existed anyway, and used a numeric that belonged to a personnel-management reg, not a flight-standards reg.

enjoy

183 posted on 09/10/2004 11:28:20 PM PDT by spokeshave (Traitor Kerry did for free what the POWs received torture to make them say)
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To: All
Source of the Forged CBS Memos Comes Out Of The Closet
184 posted on 09/10/2004 11:43:29 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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The Dallas Morning News is being a little bogus here.
I am not talking about the article. I am talking about how they make it look like they look at their records and found this info out. That they did it on their own.

Don't buy that for a minute. Just earlier this week, they ran with this issue.

Now they want their halo because they are pointing out the flaws.

Well, as a gentleman who called into WBAP this morning mentioned......Dan Rather is not the only one who has some explaining to do about this fraud CBS story. The Dallas Morning News needs to come clean with it's readers as well.

A printed apology is in order.


185 posted on 09/11/2004 12:31:05 AM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: Winfield

May I used your 'thick plottens'? I just love it!!!


186 posted on 09/11/2004 12:41:42 AM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: ambrose

GOTCHA


187 posted on 09/11/2004 12:42:38 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: ArmyBratproud

Definitely... the rest of the media owes an apology for blindly repeating CBS' charges without any independent fact checking of their own.


188 posted on 09/11/2004 12:45:10 AM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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To: razorback-bert

go hogs.
beat the horns.

GO Freepers
Stomp the career out of Rather


189 posted on 09/11/2004 12:55:03 AM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: nutmeg

btt


190 posted on 09/11/2004 1:58:08 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: sauropod
A week or two is all it takes for all the power somebody used to have to be rendered impotent after "retirement".

The only exception I have seen to this is the "Gray Beard" General Officers, and even then their influence is only a mentoring of someone, not excerting any influence. Retired military are just that, retired.

191 posted on 09/11/2004 3:06:48 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; BykrBayb; LakeLady; bridgemanusa; Darksheare; Dr Snide; faithincowboys; ..

ping


192 posted on 09/11/2004 5:06:17 AM PDT by stockpirate (Dick Morris; Before he spoke, supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor)
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To: igoramus987

This url helps to make it clear what was done! Thank you for posting it!


193 posted on 09/11/2004 5:28:22 AM PDT by AReaganGirl (President Reagan gave us back our confidence. Now, let's help Bush to carry on Reagan legacy!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Legally speaking, they showed "reckless disregard", at the least.


194 posted on 09/11/2004 6:58:35 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Travis McGee

LOL!!! Is Kerry on the way to save the CBS==Colluding Balderdashing Scumbag crew?


195 posted on 09/11/2004 8:40:50 AM PDT by harpo11 (Go Team BUSH--Nothing will hold us back--Terminate Terrorists and free the world of hell's vermin!)
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To: Hacksaw

Bwuahahaha! That is SO funny!


196 posted on 09/11/2004 8:55:38 AM PDT by SquirrelKing ("It's just a movie. ... I'd rather go to the bar across the street." - Kid Rock, on Fahrenheit 9/11)
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To: Dog
FR is cutting edge....give us a new pair of pajamas and we are good to go.

Sheeh, when did our forged memo go out stating the official FR uniform is pajamas? I feel so - shabby - in my shorts and T-shirt now.

197 posted on 09/11/2004 9:00:07 AM PDT by xJones
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To: ambrose
"A CBS staffer stood by the story, suggesting that Staudt could have continued to exert influence over Guard officials. But a former high-ranking Guard official disputed that, saying retirement would have left Staudt powerless over remaining officials."

This is pretty laughable. It's nice to watch them squirm and lie and keep digging themselves deeper and deeper.

198 posted on 09/11/2004 9:05:42 AM PDT by Montfort
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To: ambrose

Bump

Drudge has this up now!


199 posted on 09/11/2004 9:12:26 AM PDT by need_a_screen_name
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To: ambrose
"He was a very bullying type, and that could have continued."

I wonder where the CBS staffer got that information on Staudt from. I can't get over the left's willingness to promote second and third hand info as fact, yet they repeatedly refuse to accept anything the Swift Boat vets have to say because "They weren't on Kerry's boat." It boggles my mind.

200 posted on 09/11/2004 10:02:52 AM PDT by mass55th (It's the superscript, stupid!!!!)
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