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In its own way, this is as devastating as anything that's been found relating to the fonts.

I love the smell of Dan Rather sizzing in the morning.

1 posted on 09/09/2004 11:57:07 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: litany_of_lies

BTTT


2 posted on 09/09/2004 11:58:23 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: litany_of_lies

All of which takes me back to a bit of classic TV comedy:

"They'll be so full of cake and punch, they won't know the difference"

At least, that's what the Kerry camp was counting on.


4 posted on 09/09/2004 11:59:44 PM PDT by william clark
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To: litany_of_lies

I love it, the dems are screwing up one time after another.


5 posted on 09/10/2004 12:00:48 AM PDT by Paveway3
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To: litany_of_lies

WOW !!! (Rush & Hannity ?????...maybe could see this??ASAP?)

BTTT !!!


8 posted on 09/10/2004 12:04:35 AM PDT by musicman
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To: litany_of_lies; holdonnow

Oh GOODY! Immediately send this info to the N.Y. Post,Rush,Sean Hannity,and anyone else you can think of.And I just pinged Mark Levin. :-)


9 posted on 09/10/2004 12:04:44 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: litany_of_lies
Good work. In the mid 1990's, the Air Force revised nearly all regulations, etc., into "instructions" and renumbered most all of them in the process.

I believe there's a historical repository of ALL classified and unclassified regulations, manuals, instructions, etc., ever issued at the Air University Library, located at (none other) Maxwell AFB, AL.

12 posted on 09/10/2004 12:06:06 AM PDT by Skybird
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To: litany_of_lies
LOL

I can't wait to see Dan Rather's smug mug on screen explaining how and why he allowed phony docs to be used on 60 minutes. No doubt it will all be somebody else's fault. Rather will be blameless.

Do we realize how huge this is??? This is GIGANTIC. It would have been better for the democRATS if these allegations had never aired, period. It's much worse for them to have it exposed as a fraud. This does 2 VERY IMPORTANT THINGS. #1 It shows that democrats are willing to produce phony documents to smear Bush. Of course we all knew this, but NOW it's out in the open. #2. This effectively ends the democRAT attack on Bush's NG days. After this they have ZERO credibility on the issue.

Kerry must be apoplectic. He's been getting hammered by the Swifties and wanted to go on the offensive, so the dems come up with these docs and it turns out they are frauds. It has completely backfired on Kerry, the dems, and the liberal media. This WILL give Bush an additional bump in the polls. It shows who the real mudslingers are and it knocks Kerry off "message" (whatever that is) once again.

I think we should send CBS some of those band-aids with Purple Hearts. After all, if Kerry deserved a Purple Heart for self-inflicted wounds, shouldn't Rather and CBS get theirs???

13 posted on 09/10/2004 12:07:32 AM PDT by GLDNGUN (.)
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To: litany_of_lies

http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/10-2_2000_Personnel_File.pdf

I hate to pop your bubble but see page 16 of these official docs...paragraph 2-29 AFM 35-13 is quoted


14 posted on 09/10/2004 12:07:37 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: litany_of_lies
Reminds me of a old quote:

Every word she writes is a lie, including "and" and "the."
- - - Mary McCarthy (about Lillian Hellman)

And here's another quote about one of our favorite old sows. It bears no relevence to this thread, but everyone needs to read it:

She bellies up to the gourmet cracker-barrel and delivers laid-back wisdom with the serenity of a down-home Buddha who has discovered that stool softeners really work.
- - - Florence King (about Molly Ivins)

16 posted on 09/10/2004 12:10:44 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: litany_of_lies

Interesting analysis!


17 posted on 09/10/2004 12:11:06 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Why are we in Iraq? Just point the whiners here: http://www.massgraves.info)
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To: litany_of_lies

Horry smokes. You not yust ristling dixie...


19 posted on 09/10/2004 12:17:29 AM PDT by Ramius
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To: litany_of_lies

I just did a search of the air force headquarters website for 35-13 and nothing could be found.

http://www.hafdash1.hq.af.mil/index.cfm?search=35-13


21 posted on 09/10/2004 12:21:18 AM PDT by rdl6989 (Kerry voted for the war before he voted against it?)
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To: litany_of_lies
Not to blow a hole in your boat but the Air Force had many manuals until the 1990's and what they were were guidelines. BUT, what you left out was the fact that many regs would say "XXX will be done IAW AF Manual 123-45".

Anotherwords the AFR (Regulation) would be short to the point and the AFM (Manual) would issue the details what had to be done.

22 posted on 09/10/2004 12:22:53 AM PDT by america-rules (It's US or THEM so what part don't you understand ?)
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To: Howlin; JohnHuang2; All

Did you see this thread?????


25 posted on 09/10/2004 2:28:01 AM PDT by musicman
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Did you see this thread ?? Would someone like maybe Ollie North be able to dig into this "lingo" and verify this info??.....Thanks!!


28 posted on 09/10/2004 4:06:08 AM PDT by musicman
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To: litany_of_lies

An instruction is not the same as a regulation. The military issues instructions for procedurally complex things like how to maintaind diesel engines on ships in the fleet in question. If there is a problem and you failed to follow the procedures in the instruction you may get a ding on an inspection. If there is a formal investigation because of a death, grounding, or collision it may be worse, but it isn't the same as an order as it is called in the department of the Navy.


29 posted on 09/10/2004 4:15:53 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: litany_of_lies

IOW an instruction is strongly suggested guidance that you violate at your own peril.


30 posted on 09/10/2004 4:17:04 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: litany_of_lies

I am grateful for the link, but I will point out that my original post ended with, "It would be good if someone who served in the Air Force in those days and who has knowledge of then-current publications could chime in on the points I made. If I am wrong then I am willing to have it pointed out."

More than one commenter on my original post cited a link to AFM 35-13. I amended my post earlier this morning to reflect that fact. But the first half of the post, regarding form and style matters, stands. In fact, I have received a handful of emails from both serving and former Air Force officers verifying my points on that matter.

One thing that blogs and FR can do is give mass intelligence and expertise to dificult subjects. I appreciate the work of those who revealed my conclusion was in error, and unlike most MSM I will prominently admit it.

Keep up the good work!

Pardon is this post shows up wrong - I joined FR just to make this post and am not yet sure I am doing this right.


32 posted on 09/10/2004 8:47:36 AM PDT by dsensing (Donald Sensing)
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To: litany_of_lies

Dan Rather= mouth watering BITE down hard...into his own leg.


34 posted on 09/10/2004 8:52:11 AM PDT by Walkingfeather (q)
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