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Time to call ourselves ‘Black’ and not African Americans
Union Leader ^
| 9/10/04
| JOHN McWHORTER
Posted on 09/09/2004 11:14:42 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: Hank Rearden
So what do we call a white guy from Johannesburg, living in New YorkAhh...... umm...... err...... oh yeah, an alien !!! ;-))
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posted on
09/10/2004 12:29:55 AM PDT
by
GeekDejure
( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
To: freedom44
I think there are great Americans of the Muslim faith, i've met several, especially considering 64% of Iranian-Americans will support President Bush this election and they're mostly Muslim. The way things are going, they're going to have to start shopping for a new cult.
Given their current status as Moos (which "faith" thinks its adherents need to be told how to walk into a room and wipe their butts), they may be dumb enough to switch to Scientology.
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posted on
09/10/2004 12:33:12 AM PDT
by
Hank Rearden
(Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
To: kattracks
The Hardest Working Man in show Business...
Ladies & Gentlemen...Mr. James Brown!
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posted on
09/10/2004 1:00:55 AM PDT
by
Khurkris
(Proud Scottish/HillBilly - We perfected "The Art of the Grudge")
To: counterpunch
It's not racial whitewashing. People can call themselves whatever they want, esp. when they've not been previously able to self identify themselves in the past. Colored,negro,etc. are all names given to black people of African descent by someone else, so let them call themselves whatever they want. You are wrong about the origin of the term and why white liberals use it anyway. I don't really care what goes in the white liberals' mind either *lol* The whole point is that everyone should be moving to a point of just being American.
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posted on
09/10/2004 1:35:50 AM PDT
by
cyborg
(http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
To: freedom44; All
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posted on
09/10/2004 1:38:03 AM PDT
by
cyborg
(http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
To: freedom44
From the Walter Williams Webite
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What the Founders Said About Slavery
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- "Bigotry is the disease of ignorance, or morbid minds; enthusiasm of the free and buoyant. Education and free discussion are the antidotes of both."
-- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, Library of Congress, Manuscript Division, 1816
- "I believe a time will come when an opportunity will be offered to abolish this lamentable evil."
-- Patrick Henry, letter to Robert Pleasants, January 18, 1773
- "Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these people are to be free."
-- Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, 1821
- "[The Convention] thought it wrong to admit in the Constitution the idea that there could be property in men."
-- James Madison, Records of the Convention, August 25, 1787
- "There is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do, to see a plan adopted for the abolition of it."
-- George Washington, letter to Robert Morris, April 12, 1786
- "We have seen the mere distinction of color made in the most enlightened period of time, a ground of the most oppressive dominion ever exercised by man over man."
-- James Madison, speech at the Constitutional Convention, June 6, 1787
- "Every measure of prudence, therefore, ought to be assumed for the eventual total extirpation of slavery from the United States ... I have, throughout my whole life, held the practice of slavery in ... abhorrence."
-- John Adams, letter to Robert Evans, June 8, 1819
- "It is much to be wished that slavery may be abolished. The honour of the States, as well as justice and humanity, in my opinion, loudly call upon them to emancipate these unhappy people. To contend for our own liberty, and to deny that blessing to others, involves an inconsistency not to be excused."
--John Jay, letter to R. Lushington, March 15, 1786
- Another of my wishes is to depend as little as possible on the labour of slaves.
-- James Madison, Letter to R. H. Lee, July 17, 1785 (Madison, 1865, I, page 161)
- [W]e must deny the fact, that slaves are considered merely as property, and in no respect whatever as persons. The true state of the case is, that they partake of both these qualities: being considered by our laws, in some respects, as persons, and in other respects as property. In being compelled to labor, not for himself, but for a master; in being vendible by one master to another master; and in being subject at all times to be restrained in his liberty and chastised in his body, by the capricious will of another, the slave may appear to be degraded from the human rank, and classed with those irrational animals which fall under the legal denomination of property. In being protected, on the other hand, in his life and in his limbs, against the violence of all others, even the master of his labor and his liberty; and in being punishable himself for all violence committed against others, the slave is no less evidently regarded by the law as a member of the society, not as a part of the irrational creation; as a moral person, not as a mere article of property.
-- James Madison, Federalist, no. 54
- American citizens are instrumental in carrying on a traffic in enslaved Africans, equally in violation of the laws of humanity and in defiance of those of their own country. The same just and benevolent motives which produced interdiction in force against this criminal conduct will doubtless be felt by Congress in devising further means of suppressing the evil.
-- James Madison, State of the Union,1810
- It is due to justice; due to humanity; due to truth; due to the sympathies of our nature; in fine, to our character as a people, both abroad and at home, that they should be considered, as much as possible, in the light of human beings, and not as mere property. As such, they are acted on by our laws, and have an interest in our laws. They may be considered as making a part, though a degraded part, of the families to which they belong.
-- James Madison, Speech in the Virginia State Convention of 1829-30, on the Question of the Ratio of Representation in the two Branches of the Legislature, December 2, 1829.
- Outlets for the freed blacks are alone wanted for the erasure of the blot from our Republican character.
-- James Madison, Letter to General La Fayette, February 1, 1830.
- [I]f slavery, as a national evil, is to be abolished, and it be just that it be done at the national expense, the amount of the expense is not a paramount consideration.
-- James Madison, Letter to Robert J. Evans
- In contemplating the pecuniary resources needed for the removal of such a number to so great a distance [freed slaves to Africa], my thoughts and hopes have long been turned to the rich fund presented in the western lands of the nation . . ."
-- James Madison, Letter to R. R. Gurley, December 28, 1831.
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posted on
09/10/2004 1:58:21 AM PDT
by
Brainhose
(THINK OF THE KITTENS!)
To: freedom44
I think it's a MOOT point.
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posted on
09/10/2004 4:16:40 AM PDT
by
LibertarianInExile
(The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
To: kattracks
Frequently used seven syllable words just don't work.
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posted on
09/10/2004 4:20:10 AM PDT
by
keats5
To: kattracks
I don't believe in hyphenated Americans.
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posted on
09/10/2004 5:19:05 AM PDT
by
daddyOwe
(If God wanted me to be a liberal he would of given me less brains)
To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
I never stopped referring to myself as black; I can't be "African American," I was born here (as was my father, grandfathers and great-grandfathers before me), and (though more as an aside) I've never even been to Africa!
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posted on
09/10/2004 5:22:10 AM PDT
by
mhking
To: kattracks
I'm am Polish/Irish/English/Prussian/Scottish/German/Welsh/American and I prefered to be called that.
Hehehehe.
I do have to admit though that I nearly laughed out loud one day when I went to a Cabaret with my sister and saw a lady wearing a bracelet with an African Continent on it. I looked at my sister and said, "I need a bracelet with a Europe charm on it."
She smacked me and told me to be quiet.
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posted on
09/10/2004 5:32:06 AM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(Morologus es!)
To: mhking
Besides Africa is such a large continent with so many cultures and countries with in it. Immigrants from Africa except Mrs. Kerry don't refer to themselves as "Africans", they use the country they are from. Uganda, Nigeria, Kenya, etc. I'm sure they're as different from one-another as Polish, Italians, Swedes, etc.
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posted on
09/10/2004 6:11:27 AM PDT
by
FITZ
To: kattracks
At my first appt with a new Dr., while answering the questionnaire via the office girl, she asked my race. (I am blonde hair and blue eyed, so was she....I thought it was funny she even asked!) I replied...ummm, European-American. She snapped back, that is your ethnicity, not your race. Race?
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posted on
09/10/2004 6:21:10 AM PDT
by
Dasaji
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To: Domangart
I fell into the middle of something on one of the alphabets this week. A black woman (maybe an employee of the network) was showing film clips of her family's visit to their African homeland. However, it was more like a "white tourist" tour rather than a visit to her "roots". I thought she missed a great opportunity.
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posted on
09/10/2004 6:24:17 AM PDT
by
daybreakcoming
("U.S. forces armed with what? Spitballs?".....Zell Miller)
To: mhking
Excuse the rant.
I am sick and tired of the dashes or hyphens. You get married and the wife wants to be Jane Doe-Public. Get out of here damn feminazis you are my wife and didn't marry a dash you married a man. If you don't like it dash on out the door. I am an American no more or less then anyone in here. I just happen to have more melanin then other people. But here is a news flash for some. There are dark skinned blacks that don't care for light skinned blacks which is still a carry over from slave days. I have white cousins in my family and because of this I am not African. I know I have ancestors that came over here in slave ships but I don't know where Kunta Kinte Clark in Africa. What I do know is that my parents instilled in me a faith in God and a belief system that remains to this day. Being called African American is nebulous because I am not part of a continent made up of several countries. Most of these supposedly Afrocentric people have never stepped foot on the continent. I am one of the Negroid races that populate the earth. My blood lines are mixed with Irish, Scottish, Choctaw Indian and Negro. My German Shepherd has a more definitive pedigree than I do. Black American get over your obsession with race. Most white people don't care about you all they care about is making sure their families are safe and taken care of I suggest that we take a page out of that book and duplicate the positive behavior.
I have had my blackness questioned because I am conservative, my response is that I became a Republican to get in touch with my inner whiteness that is dying to get out. Someone tell me why 11-13 million black babies have been murdered in the womb and liberal black leadership is quieter than a hooker in church about it. Why are Black Americans that have the GDP that is number 15 in the world but where is the proof of all that income? It is a sad commentary I think Frederick Douglass and Booker T Washington (both republicans)must be rolling over in their graves at the state of black American and the so called Black American leadership which I wouldn't follow to the toilet.
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posted on
09/10/2004 6:32:08 AM PDT
by
Warrior Nurse
(Black & white liberals practice intellectual apartheid when in comes to black conservatives!)
To: kattracks
I recently was in Italy with some friends. We came across two people engaged in Italian conversation. One was white and the other was black. One of our company referred to the black guy as an Italian-African-American. He was serious. This surely pointed out the utter silliness of these politically correct appelations.
To: kattracks
I see around the internet the abbreviation "AA" being used like it is used for affirmative action. This is getting silly. Jesse Jackson is credited with starting the term and I still do not use it.
To: kattracks
I've never used African American. Oddly enough that's what my white friends call me but I've always referred to myself as black.
To: kattracks
Good post. McWhorter is on the mark, as are the Freeper comments.
Terms like "African American," "Irish American," "Italian American," and so on, suggest that those so named are different from and impliedly less than full Americans. "Black American" has the virtue of being honestly descriptive without implying a difference in status or quality of citizenship.
To: kattracks
I have an idea
Why don't you just call yourself American and drop the mamby pamby hyphenated bullshit altogether.
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posted on
09/10/2004 10:35:44 PM PDT
by
Leatherneck_MT
(Goodnight Chesty, wherever you may be.)
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