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To: alydar

What arrogance!

Yeah Kerry was also born with a silver spoon in hand, granted he did serve in vietnam. Only 4 months in combat... which are in question because he has not release his records. The rest of the time was on the Gridley. which if I remember correct was a support ship. The dems can go suck their own toes!


7 posted on 09/09/2004 5:05:30 PM PDT by Americanwolf (Zell Miller for Secretary of Defense against liberals! (jeez spitballs.. now thats funny!))
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To: Americanwolf

"The rest of the time was on the Gridley. which if I remember correct was a support ship."

Depends on your definition of a "support ship." The Gridley was a guided missle cruiser, FYI.


31 posted on 09/09/2004 5:18:52 PM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Americanwolf
re: The rest of the time was on the Gridley. which if I remember correct was a support ship.

Frigate (FF) or DD, i.e. a small combatant, not a support ship.

But the record has been clearly established that (a) Kerry had, and used college deferrments, (b) he requested another to study in France (e.g. both preserving "political viability", as with Clinton, while being near the heart of the anti-War/"peace" talk action), (c)his request was denied and his draft number was low (believe in the 20's), so he was going to Vietnam one way or the other, (d) he "volunteered" for the Navy as a means of avoiding ground combat, (e) got good Fitreps as a "stash" Ensign, but was either unhappy with shipboard duty or his ship was unhappy with him, so he (f) volunteered for what he understood was the equivalent of an overseas Coast Guard type job as the detached Commanding Officer of a small boat (big political viability points!), only to find to his horror (g) he was screwed.. the Swifties were ordered to patrol inland rivers, in the heart of the action in enemy territory. Shortly after his assignment, he received 3 Purple Hearts in 4 months, plus a few other gedunk metals (i.e. yes, for valor under combat, but since he wrote the narratives and went around the chain of command, they could be suspect as forgeries.. i.e. WHO ENDORSED THE RECOMMENDATION's after his immediate C.O. refused to?!!!), and he was out of hell ("bye crew...don't ya wish you were a smart as me..") in a heartbeat.

Truthfully, I cared little about Kerry's war record, and took it at face value, after all it was the official Navy record.. I even gave him a pass on "Winter Soldier".. i.e. we were all young and foolish back then. Then, as the truth came out about his Vietnam "heroism", the metals, early out from his tour of duty, his left-wing voting record, his connections to the Sandinistas in the 80's, I got furious about this fraud, about this lying piece of Gigelo trash.

"Unfit for Command", to say the least.

SFS

89 posted on 09/09/2004 6:05:52 PM PDT by Steel and Fire and Stone (SFS)
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