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'60 Minutes' Documents on Bush Might Be Fake
Drudge ^ | 09/09/04 | Drudge

Posted on 09/09/2004 11:55:04 AM PDT by GrandmaPatriot

Edited on 09/09/2004 11:59:36 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: rushmom
Even if they're not fake,...so he didn't show up for a physical...gasp.

Others have said that the military term is a "medical", and not a physical examination.

41 posted on 09/09/2004 12:10:37 PM PDT by DmBarch
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To: Boundless

Wow..just got the implication of your comments..that's nuclear, if true


42 posted on 09/09/2004 12:10:51 PM PDT by ken5050 (Bill Clinton has just signed to be the national spokesman for Hummer..)
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To: jrawk

Why would they need to do that? If they have done what you said and did a document switch for production values then that raises even more questions, and wil feed into the credibility of there report.


43 posted on 09/09/2004 12:10:54 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: Taliesan

"IF"...yes...its over.

We better be damned sure on this one people.


44 posted on 09/09/2004 12:11:16 PM PDT by NJ Neocon
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To: GrandmaPatriot

Bump!


45 posted on 09/09/2004 12:11:26 PM PDT by mtbrandon49
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To: Virginia

Yes.

From the Washington Post this morning:

Documents obtained by the CBS News program "60 Minutes" shed new light on one of the most controversial episodes in Bush's military service, when he abruptly stopped flying and moved from Texas to Alabama to work on a political campaign. The documents include a memo from Bush's squadron commander, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, ordering Bush "to be suspended from flight status for failure to perform" to U.S. Air Force and National Guard standards and failure to take his annual physical "as ordered."

The new documents surfaced as the Bush administration released for the first time the president's personal flight logs, which have been the focus of repeated archival searches and Freedom of Information Act requests dating to the 2000 presidential campaign. The logs show that Bush stopped flying in April 1972 after accumulating more than 570 hours of flight time between 1969 and 1972, much of it on an F-102 interceptor jet.

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A spokeswoman for "60 Minutes," Kelli Edwards, declined to say exactly how the new documents were obtained other than that CBS News understood they had been taken from Killian's "personal office file." In addition to the order to Bush to report for a physical, the documents include various memos from Killian describing his conversations with Bush and other National Guard officers about Bush's attempts to secure a transfer to Alabama. Killian died in 1984.


46 posted on 09/09/2004 12:11:28 PM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: OnTheDress

There is a dimestore photoshop filter for that, I am just being careful here.

Trust But Verify!

I am just saying if I was Production Assistant on 60 minuts asked to come up with "Memo Graphics" if after I scanned them and found them to be illegible, I may retype the verbiage save, photoshop out the signature, and meet my deadline.

-- l8s
-- jrawk


47 posted on 09/09/2004 12:11:50 PM PDT by jrawk
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To: js1138
Freepers have posted examples from the IBM executive typewriter. It did exist and did have the superscript "th".

Hmmm. I haven't seen the images, but wasn't the executive also limited to one font size? The "th" in the memo looks smaller to me.

Though superscripting was possible, wasn't it still limited to only superscripting normal-sized text?

48 posted on 09/09/2004 12:12:29 PM PDT by mc6809e
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To: Boundless
In addition to the CNS points, there are questions about the paper sheet size, zip codes, military abbreviations, and general grammar/tone.

All covered right here on FR last night starting at about 8:30 p.m.

49 posted on 09/09/2004 12:12:33 PM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: The_Victor

The side-by-side comparison is compelling, but look at the date at the top. The 18 is misaligned. Is it possible that parts of the letter are genuine and parts cut and pasted?

Let's demand a look at the originals.


50 posted on 09/09/2004 12:13:01 PM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: GrandmaPatriot
…and it's not something that was even possible more than 30 years ago.

I don’t know. My mom was a secretary at White Sands from the 50’s up into the 80’s.

I don’t know what year it was – at least in the late 70’s – that she had an IBM Selectric that used the different little balls to change the font/type size. I know they had special balls that had all the weird fractions and symbols and stuff. Know that for a fact because I routinely got in trouble for screwing around with the typewriter and switching out the balls and stuff…

51 posted on 09/09/2004 12:13:37 PM PDT by Who dat?
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To: comebacknewt

That, I believe, is the case. However, the WH strategy may simply be to blow the whole thing off. If they dispute it, the story stays in the headlines. If they don't dispute it, the media has to come up with something else in order to keep the thing going.


52 posted on 09/09/2004 12:13:43 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com/)
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To: Howlin

Thanks. That must mean that they were not among the documents that the White House verified.


53 posted on 09/09/2004 12:13:51 PM PDT by Virginia
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To: flevit

why do I smell a CLINTON plant???????

I was thinking Clinton too!


54 posted on 09/09/2004 12:14:04 PM PDT by tapatio (Society is always taken by surprise at any new example of common sense.)
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To: Howlin
The White House acknowledged that the documents released by the Pentagon were real.

These are NOT government documents.

Sorry I didn't watch 60 minutes, why would anyone give any credence to "personal files". In fact I have a whole drawer full of personal files that tell me John Kerry did Kitty Kelly to promote this book.

55 posted on 09/09/2004 12:14:12 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: Pete; OnTheDress; eastsider; TheCrusader; finnman69

Trust But Verify!

I am just saying if I was Production Assistant on 60 minuts asked to come up with "Memo Graphics" if after I scanned them and found them to be illegible, I may retype the verbiage save, photoshop out the signature, and meet my deadline.

-- l8s
-- jrawk


56 posted on 09/09/2004 12:14:20 PM PDT by jrawk
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To: rhombus

To try to "finish off" Bush?


57 posted on 09/09/2004 12:14:43 PM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: Howlin
I'm making sure that WE get the credit this time!

Take a well-deserved bow because it was YOU who first raised the possibility of forgery.

58 posted on 09/09/2004 12:17:13 PM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: GrandmaPatriot
Talk about rope-a-dope! With the increasing likelihood that all these documents are forgeries, this will backfire in the MSM's face.

Hmmm, do you think the MSM will admit they got suckered? Is the MSM going to report bad news about itself? Or will there be a quiet little retraction on page 12b?

59 posted on 09/09/2004 12:17:14 PM PDT by crv16
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To: GrandmaPatriot
See also: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210987/posts

Haley's conclusions are not well informed. The IBM "Executive" typewriter, introduced in the 1940's and carried through to the 1970's, used proportional fonts. Also, while we haven't uncovered conclusive evidence yet, it is certainly possible that a "superscript th" would appear as a single character on the typewriter.

60 posted on 09/09/2004 12:17:29 PM PDT by Cboldt
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