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Was Rather Duped by Anti-Bush Hoax?
RatherBiased.com ^ | September 09, 2004

Posted on 09/09/2004 11:14:40 AM PDT by RatherBiased.com

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To: leftcoaster

It seems to me, and I'll check this out later, that the standard date format for my USAF stuff was: DDMMMYY -> 09SEP04


201 posted on 09/09/2004 1:58:02 PM PDT by Outlaw76 (Citizens on the Bounce!)
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To: dirtboy; Peach
1--the month in a military date is always three letters. August is spelled out.

Absolutely. Good catch there.

Some of the documents Bush released have the date in the longer format. That, in itself, only indicates that not everyone was aware of the procedure or thought it was especially important.

202 posted on 09/09/2004 2:03:30 PM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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To: Pete
I am not familiar with the typewriters in question. If it is true that typewriters from this time period have straight apostrophes, it pretty much confirms a forgery.

NO typewriters in the 70s had "curly quotes" or curved apostrophes. They ALL used "straight" apostrophes - left over from the days when making an exclamation point was a two-part process: apostrophe, backspace, period.

This forgery was by someone too young to be familiar with typewriters.

203 posted on 09/09/2004 2:14:12 PM PDT by M. Thatcher (.)
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To: RatherBiased.com

Our local CBS news just led off with CBS's story from yesterday, with no apparent comment about how the documents are no in question! I could only switch away.


204 posted on 09/09/2004 2:15:57 PM PDT by Styria
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To: Lurking2Long
In a related story, it haas been determined that Dan Rather is really Geraldo Rivera's father...(like son, like father...)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... SNORT!

Did you see Rivera's big BOO BOO when he was covering Hurricane Frances? I think it was Saturday, but it was during the hurricane and he kept showing and talking about this sailboat on the intercoastal waterway that looked in real danger. He went on and on and on about how the guy (that he could see) was in danger and where he was trying to go and how he couldn't get there and how it was unlikely that the Coast Guard would be able to reach him. This went on for about 10 mins it seems. Then we went to lunch. When we came back they had him on again and he was trying to assure people that they didn't haven't to worry about all these boats because they were moored and the owners had left them the night before. All of that panic for an anchored boat. It was too funny. We thought maybe it was Al Capone's boat. :)

205 posted on 09/09/2004 2:29:32 PM PDT by lupie
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To: Styria

CNN played it as a straight story ...Howard Wolfson DEM shill was on Fox...saying Bush should come "clean...Gibson said Clinton said you guys should get away from Vietnam.


206 posted on 09/09/2004 2:31:34 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: RatherBiased.com

What do they mean by "proportional spacing"?


207 posted on 09/09/2004 2:49:46 PM PDT by Floratina
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To: outlawcam

It looks like some of the letters in the "CYA" memo are different point sizes. Look at the "y" in "any" as in "I don't have any feedback" and it looks completely different in size, almost hand-drawn, and lacking its upper serifs. Varying the point size would create the impression of baseline shifting.


208 posted on 09/09/2004 3:22:41 PM PDT by Sabatier
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To: ngc6656

...from my stand point about was it around (white out)
I was talking about the military, and normal procedures.
You usually started over on a fresh piece of paper.

Doogle


209 posted on 09/09/2004 3:47:57 PM PDT by Doogle (8th AF..Ubon Thailand..408thMMS...."69"...Night Line Delivery,,Ammo Dump)
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To: RatherBiased.com

If this turns out that those documents are fake, it's the end of Kerry's campaign. It should also be the end of Dan Rather's career.


210 posted on 09/09/2004 3:49:09 PM PDT by dormee
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To: leftcoaster

"Typewriters have a straight mark for the quotes and/or apostrophe, so it can be used for any of the marks.

The CBS documents apostrophe is curved, not straight. So they came from a computer, not a typewriter."

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True. They call it "smart quotes" on a computer. An electric or manual typewriter has no way of knowing if the apostrophe you type is at the beginning or end of a quote. Hence the straight-up-and-down design of the apostrophe.


211 posted on 09/09/2004 3:57:56 PM PDT by Zhangliqun (Liberals love America the way teenagers love an unlocked liquor cabinet...)
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To: blau993
Army and Air Force use different conventions. Army has three-letter groups for all ranks from PVT thru SMA thru CW5 thru 2LT to GEN. Air Force uses the partly spelled out abbrevs you reference.

In short, you're right, and that particular argument is in error.

From everything else, though, I agree these 60 min docs appear forged.

212 posted on 09/09/2004 4:34:28 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (SGT, US Army, served 1985-1999; Air Force brat, so I know something about that :))
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To: RatherBiased.com
It could also be a pro-Bush hoax. If so, more power to em!

If it is a lefty trying to harm Bush, it is a Bush win because it shows desparation by anti-Bush goons.

If it was done by a Bush supporter, again a Bush win because it shows the desperation of anti-Bush goons, this time, the media who are all too willing join the RAT campaign againt President Bush.

213 posted on 09/09/2004 4:35:30 PM PDT by lormand (I've got your "poll" right here.)
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To: litany_of_lies

"If the memo were typed by someone else, wasn't it common practice to put the typist's initials somewhere below the signature? Maybe 2-3 lines down left-justified?"

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It still is. I do this for a living, and the common practice is the initials of the writer of the letter or memo in caps, followed by either a colon or a slash, and then the typist's initials in lower case.


214 posted on 09/09/2004 4:38:03 PM PDT by Zhangliqun (Liberals love America the way teenagers love an unlocked liquor cabinet...)
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To: Doogle
I was talking about the military, and normal procedures.

Thanks, we should all be on the same page now.

215 posted on 09/09/2004 5:16:49 PM PDT by ngc6656
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To: RatherBiased.com

216 posted on 09/09/2004 5:18:05 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Rebelbase

BUMP .... Look for that picture on the next kitty humor thread. You get credit for it.


217 posted on 09/09/2004 5:22:57 PM PDT by PetroniDE (A.N.S.W.E.R and IndyMedia -- AMERICA'S FIFTH COLUMN !!!)
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To: All
I have held my fire until it looks like for sure these are forgeries. Folks, it is time to Freep the CBS Evening News, where Dan Rather's office is based....this gets you to the newsroom:

212-975-3691

Number found on this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1133594/posts

Ask just what "investigation" went into authenticating the memos and whether they will offer an on-air retraction.

Demand they apologize for this EXTREME lapse of journalistic practice and basic skills.

Also, contact the president of CBS News, Andrew Heyward:

Phone: (212) 975-4321

Fax: (212) 975-1893

218 posted on 09/09/2004 5:33:31 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: MeekOneGOP; Arrowhead1952; Steven W.; Happy2BMe; devolve; Grampa Dave; Travis McGee
But why would a WAR HEE-ROW with a Silver Star
with COMBAT "V" have to FORGE documents?

What? You're telling me there's no such thing as a
Silver Star with COMBAT "V"?

219 posted on 09/09/2004 6:16:54 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

220 posted on 09/09/2004 6:23:29 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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