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To: Geist Krieger

I'm a High School student and have had many debates with classmates about John Kerry's military experiences. I was wondering if you could tell me a way to get them to understand that Kerry was not a brave and valiant soldier, without giving a long winded speech which they will blow off without a second thought.


8 posted on 09/09/2004 9:48:52 AM PDT by Ethan_Allen1777
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To: Ethan_Allen1777
Tell them Kerry has admitted to lying about Christmas in Cambodia and that his first Purple Heart was self-inflicted, then give them a copy of Unfit for Command and tell them to point out anything in the book that has been "proved false" as the media keep claiming.
10 posted on 09/09/2004 9:54:47 AM PDT by colorado tanker (wanna see my happy hat?)
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To: Ethan_Allen1777

"I was wondering if you could tell me a way to get them to understand that Kerry was not a brave and valiant soldier, without giving a long winded speech which they will blow off without a second thought."


I don't think this whole thing is as much about Kerry's bravery or valor...that never would have been questioned, if Kerry himself hadn't CONSTANTLY touted his medals/ribbons/etc. What this is about is selling out and turning on his fellow soldiers.

Kids are probably the world's worst (or best) at not "squealing" on their friends...not tattle taling, even if the so-called friends aren't really friends. Kerry not only "squealed" on fellow soldiers about things that did not happen, but he caused many POW's to suffer unduly because his words were used on them. Young people understand loyalty...Kerry was disloyal.


12 posted on 09/09/2004 9:56:11 AM PDT by Maria S ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: Ethan_Allen1777
I'm a High School student and have had many debates with classmates about John Kerry's military experiences. I was wondering if you could tell me a way to get them to understand that Kerry was not a brave and valiant soldier, without giving a long winded speech which they will blow off without a second thought.

Lemme try.

1. Brave and valiant soldiers do not brag about their service.
2. Brave and valiant soldiers do not bring movie cameras with them into combat and then recreate battle scenes to put on film.
3. Brave and valiant soldiers do not request medals for minor injuries, in fact they do not even report them.
4. Brave and valiant soldiers do not make things up out of whole cloth that they did not do (Christmas in Cambodia) and then spend years embellishing the lies.
5. Brave and valiant soldiers do not attack and smear people with whom they served just because their recollections are not the same.

13 posted on 09/09/2004 9:58:36 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Proud to be a Reagan Alumna!)
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To: Ethan_Allen1777
I'm a High School student and have had many debates with classmates about John Kerry's military experiences. I was wondering if you could tell me a way to get them to understand that Kerry was not a brave and valiant soldier, without giving a long winded speech which they will blow off without a second thought.

If you haven't read "Unfit for Command" yet, that would be a good starting point. The accounts in it are short and to the point. Taken together, they are extremely damaging to him.

You might suggest that your friends talk to an uncle, father, or other older relative as to whether they were war criminals as Kerry claimed they were.

14 posted on 09/09/2004 9:58:51 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Ethan_Allen1777

Whop em with an club after...so it sinks in. They dont want to hear the truth chum. And tell them the truth is that "John Kerry is a traitor" plain and simple. Then when they point to the usual "Bush avoided going", then say maybe so, but at least he didnt come back and commit TREASON like Kerry did.


15 posted on 09/09/2004 9:59:37 AM PDT by crz
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To: Ethan_Allen1777

You said:
"I'm a High School student and have had many debates with classmates about John Kerry's military experiences. I was wondering if you could tell me a way to get them to understand that Kerry was not a brave and valiant soldier, without giving a long winded speech which they will blow off without a second thought".


Honestly, I don't know that you can. There are two types of people.... Those who can see truth and those who can't. I firmly believe it is a mindset that you are born with or at least aquire very early in life. I have tried to pursuade liberals and I am telling you it is a total waste of time.


21 posted on 09/09/2004 10:21:38 AM PDT by blantz
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To: Ethan_Allen1777

That's easy. Ask them if they don't smell something fishy about a guy who got three purple hearts in as many months of actual combat duty but never spent one day in the hospital for injuries.

Kerry was collecting purple hearts as fast as he could to get the hell out of Vietnam. Most of those he served with were happy to see him go.




24 posted on 09/09/2004 10:53:37 AM PDT by planekT (News Flash! Dems set Guiness Book Record for Continuous Lying.)
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To: Ethan_Allen1777

Just point out that he left his command voluntarily and ask them how many other military leaders that they know of have done the same.


31 posted on 09/09/2004 12:14:15 PM PDT by aBootes (Wake me up when a liberal has an original idea that does NOT involve raising taxes -- gunnygail)
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To: Ethan_Allen1777

Real heroes NEVER brag about their heroism.


32 posted on 09/09/2004 12:18:11 PM PDT by tractorman (A mosque is a mask.)
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