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What really happened during the school siege? (Beslan)
Daily News South Africa ^ | September 09 2004 | Staff?

Posted on 09/09/2004 8:16:44 AM PDT by AdmSmith

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They are still fabricating allegations that Aslan Maskhadov was involved.
1 posted on 09/09/2004 8:16:45 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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Western intelligence sources say they are still checking information that some were from Syria or Jordan.

Does this explain Russia's new anti-terror relationship with Israel? If it's traced back to Syrian involvement, the wheels could come off quickly.

2 posted on 09/09/2004 8:20:48 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("The message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing...")
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A South African newspaper? I wouldn't believe it without any outside confirmation... Don't forget who they root for!


3 posted on 09/09/2004 8:23:02 AM PDT by Pitiricus
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"The fact is that some 'militia' with assault rifles decided to free the hostages themselves and they opened fire at that school."

I don't know if I believe that.

4 posted on 09/09/2004 8:23:50 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: 1bigdictator; 1st-P-In-The-Pod; 2sheep; 7.62 x 51mm; A Jovial Cad; a_witness; adam_az; af_vet_rr; ..
FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel ping list.

WARNING: This is a high volume ping list

5 posted on 09/09/2004 8:23:57 AM PDT by Alouette (Pray for the Children of Russia, Israel and the USA)
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Several shakidki, or female suicide bombers, known as "black widows", were reported to be inside.

Dark Irony PING.

6 posted on 09/09/2004 8:26:07 AM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: Rutles4Ever

If the Russians want to go into Syria or Jordan, I suggest, no I insist, we set up places to help them with logistics.


7 posted on 09/09/2004 8:26:48 AM PDT by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.)
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"terrorists were led by four men codenamed Abdullah, Fantomas, the Colonel and Magas"

They are all dead?


8 posted on 09/09/2004 8:28:45 AM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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You are certain that Aslan Maskhadov was not involved, because ____?

(Note: I'm not saying I think he was involved. Unlike you, I don't know who-all was involved.)

9 posted on 09/09/2004 8:31:38 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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I have seen reports elsewhere that a number of Russian Special Forces were shot in the back accidentally by parents who were trying to free their children, that most of the Special Forces fatalities were caused by this.

Putin is said to be trying to keep a news blackout, and has forced the firing of one newspaper editor.

We still don't know everything about the Moscow Opera attack. Russia doesn't believe in a free press.


10 posted on 09/09/2004 8:31:46 AM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: humblegunner
"The fact is that some 'militia' with assault rifles decided to free the hostages themselves and they opened fire at that school."

I don't know if I believe that.


Unfortunately, it is true. Those of us that watched it on TV could see it. The Russian Security forces at the school did not even manage to remove the civilians from the site. Some of the terrorists escaped by mixing with the people outside in the chaos after the explosions.
11 posted on 09/09/2004 8:33:17 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: Old Sarge; Jen; StarCMC

*YAWN*
LOL!

Bug repellant is a good thing.


12 posted on 09/09/2004 8:34:38 AM PDT by MoJo2001 (Psychology: The art of turning stupidity into illness)
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To: AdmSmith; Calpernia; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Donna Lee Nardo; Revel

On the BBC tape, you can clearly hear a man reciting a verse from the Quran in Arabic with a Saudi Arabian accent. You can also hear someone speaking Arabic with a Jordanian/Palestinian accent in the background. There are pretty obvious differences in the dialect. On the longer tape, which was on a jihadi site, you could also hear people speaking in other languages - a woman says something in a language that I don't recognize so it may be Chechen; a man yells at one of the kids what sounds to me like Russian but I don't know enough Russian to even be able to tell if it was a native speaker or if it was accented.


13 posted on 09/09/2004 8:39:14 AM PDT by StillProud2BeFree
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I thought they confirmed that there was at least one Korean too?


14 posted on 09/09/2004 8:41:37 AM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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You are certain that Aslan Maskhadov was not involved, because ____? (Note: I'm not saying I think he was involved. Unlike you, I don't know who-all was involved.)

Washington has urged Moscow to hold talks with Chechen separatist leader Aslan Maskhadov. So far the Russians have not shared any hard intelligence that he was involved.
15 posted on 09/09/2004 8:43:28 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: Calpernia

I think they did too - I was just pointing out what I could make out from the tape :) The bad guys were masked so I am basing completely on audio. One guy did appear to be black but I did not hear him speak on the tape. Wonder if there are any other tapes out there.


16 posted on 09/09/2004 8:44:20 AM PDT by StillProud2BeFree
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To: StillProud2BeFree

I trust your analysis. You have a very good ear.

I was just adding to the article above. I'm surprised the Korean is no longer listed.


17 posted on 09/09/2004 8:46:44 AM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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To: humblegunner
I don't know if I believe that.

Me either.

18 posted on 09/09/2004 8:49:07 AM PDT by Eaker (Deer Camp North Gives a Whole New Meaning to Labor Day Weekend!!!)
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To: StillProud2BeFree

Very interesting, thank you.


19 posted on 09/09/2004 8:55:44 AM PDT by Velveeta (Never forget http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/520255/posts)
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To: StillProud2BeFree
One guy did appear to be black but I did not hear him speak on the tape. Wonder if there are any other tapes out there.

Here's a link to a photo of the man who seemed to be black, though I can only make out his hand. Haven't heard any more about his origins.

WARNING: link to photo of a body

"Dead body of a hostage-taker, supposedly a black man. Filmed inside the school / Frame from the Rossia Channel"

20 posted on 09/09/2004 9:08:25 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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