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1 posted on 09/09/2004 7:31:11 AM PDT by ZGuy
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"Rightest warriors". And proud of it.


2 posted on 09/09/2004 7:34:51 AM PDT by sarasota
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"But it's hard enough to get the story right, without holding it hostage to an open-ended negotiation with zealots who believe they already know what the story is."

The leftist zealots in the press have been doing this for years unchecked.


3 posted on 09/09/2004 7:34:58 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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It's hard now even to write for publication without being aware of just how thoroughly what you say is going to be inspected for any trace of undesirable political tilt and denounced by a free-floating cadre of rightist warriors.

Translation in Kerryspeak: "How dare you commoners question what we tell you?"

5 posted on 09/09/2004 7:38:06 AM PDT by Repairman Jack
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Great post. Journalists are beginning to whine. "WAAAAAHHH....WWWAAAAHHH.... I'm being forced to be truthful and balanced". Thank God for computers and the internet. Liberal lies and liars are being spotted and counterattacked almost instantly.


6 posted on 09/09/2004 7:41:01 AM PDT by JeeperFreeper
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If we give prominence to this story of carnage in Iraq, will we be accused of anti-administration bias?

Absolutely, if you insist on using words like "carnage".

7 posted on 09/09/2004 7:42:31 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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If we give prominence to this story of carnage in Iraq, will we be accused of anti-administration bias? And - here it gets interesting - will we therefore owe our readers an offsetting story, perhaps an inspirational tale of Marines teaching young Iraqis how to play softball?


Heaven Forbid that they actually have to tell the whole story instead of the little snippet that suits there agenda.
9 posted on 09/09/2004 7:44:10 AM PDT by Prysson
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This sounds like a buggy whip maker bemoaning that new fangled horseless carriage Mr. Ford was pimping.


10 posted on 09/09/2004 7:45:39 AM PDT by Repairman Jack
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Total blather.

I am a graduate of the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism (in the late 1970s), and while there I was amazed at the extent to which the students and faculty parroted the conventional wisdom of the media (at the time, the students all seemed to believe that Ayatolla Khomenei was a would-be Jeffersonian Democrat who would bring a new era of peace to the world).

This columnist can be pinioned by his own example. Why would the softball game be part of the news? Why wouldn't it be news? Herbert Gans wrote a book called "Deciding what's News", but it really doesn't begin to answer the question. The fact is, the mainstream media (and all other media, for that matter) decide what's news by instinctive feel within very general guidelines.

This journalist wants to be one of the high priests in the temple, making decisions that no mere commoner can fathom. The fact is, this kind of failed elitism is what has brought the mainstream media to the state they are in today.

I don't believe that the bloggers whom he refers to are right-wing as much as they are appalled by the important information that does not get reported, and by the way that other stories are portrayed. They started as a reaction to the failures of the media to cover stories from a fair and balanced perspective. As the mainstream media, led, I believe, by Pinch Sulzberger's New York Times, dug in their heels, the bloggers have discovered that they can function as a source of news themselves.

Moreover, where Free Republic stands head and shoulders over even the best of the webloggers, is that it has a democratic self-correcting mechanism -- the threads. People here have a real instinct for what is news. When an article is posted, other FReepers will read it carefully for bias and comment on any unfair word usage, prejudiced selection of information or other spin. If there is an outright inaccuracy in the article, FReepers will jump all over it to correct the mistakes. What we are doing here is a transparent collection and dissemination of the news in real time.

It is the failure of the mainstream media to recognize their own biases, coupled with the availability of alternative sources of news (and interactive participation) in weblogs and Free Republic, that is killing the media. Today, even if the media were to turn overnight into a fair and balanced vehicle, I think it is too late. By their failures, they have created a viable alternative to their closed system, and information flow will never be the same.


11 posted on 09/09/2004 7:46:44 AM PDT by Piranha
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And - here it gets interesting - will we therefore owe our readers an offsetting story, perhaps an inspirational tale of Marines teaching young Iraqis how to play softball?

That's not newsworthy? It's only an "offsetting story" to placate the "rightist warriors"?

Americans liberating Iraqis IS the story. The fixation on "carnage" is background noise.

12 posted on 09/09/2004 7:47:23 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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"But it's hard enough to get the story right, without holding it hostage to an open-ended negotiation with zealots who believe they already know what the story is."

Oh, quit the dramatics. CNN admitted that they spiked the truth about atrocities in Iraq. Thus, they didn't report the story anyway! I mean how hard was that? And, one more time, the consumers understand that there is no need to trust the MSM anymore since the MSM spins the truth or suppresses it to favor the Democrats. So you can just do as the great Mama T advises - "Shove it."

14 posted on 09/09/2004 7:50:48 AM PDT by Enterprise
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But anybody who enters the profession makes a core commitment to do his or her best to determine and tell the truth.

Where's the BARF ALERT?

15 posted on 09/09/2004 7:51:03 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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The biggest problem with the lamestream media, and they STILL don't get it, is their obvious, blatant, flagrant pro-liberal bias.

Until they wake up they wil continue their march towards irrelevance.

17 posted on 09/09/2004 7:53:04 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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News of great significance becomes not an honest attempt to reflect genuinely contradictory realities

If that were only the case

but a daily bargaining session with an increasingly factionalized public

Bargaining? It should come down to which side can provide the facts to support their assertions, and not relying on the lies of ommission to make one's point.

What a pantload.

18 posted on 09/09/2004 7:53:45 AM PDT by dirtboy (Kerry could have left 'Nam within a week if Purple Hearts were awarded for shots to the foot.)
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I won't be satisfied until newsrooms are under siege from heavy weaponry.


19 posted on 09/09/2004 7:55:42 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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Awwww. Maybe we should send him some cheese to go with his whine...


22 posted on 09/09/2004 7:57:16 AM PDT by mewzilla
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bottom line folks
it has nothing to do with integrity
it has nothing to do with honesty
it has nothing to do with current events(good or bad)

it's $$$$$$$$$$

people will seek the truth..it just so happens when people get both sides to a story, they have a tendency to return to that source.


Doogle
23 posted on 09/09/2004 7:57:25 AM PDT by Doogle (8th AF..Ubon Thailand..408thMMS...."69"...Night Line Delivery,,Ammo Dump)
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It feels so good to see Old Media squirm as it dies a slow, painful and well-deserved death...


24 posted on 09/09/2004 7:57:51 AM PDT by Ogie Oglethorpe (The people have spoken...the b*stards!)
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How easily he excuses the bias that has been the cause of the awakening of the masses to the bald face distortions and slanted reporting of the anti-American communist news agencies.

That segment of zealots contains the majority of main stream Americans who have switched to Fox News to sop up slivers of fair reporting.

It is the minority of zealots, that dare to claim majority status, that makes up the major news networks that hate patriotism, nationalism, and the American culture. Their day is ending, and one cannot help but take pleasure at their discomfort.


27 posted on 09/09/2004 7:58:45 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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"a free-floating cadre of rightist warriors"
This seems to be a step up from right-wing extremists, being a warrior is a good thing, no? Especially when one is right.


29 posted on 09/09/2004 7:59:41 AM PDT by geros
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Once again the Left demonstrates that it expects a complete, unchallenged monopoly or it will whine about how unfair life is.


30 posted on 09/09/2004 8:00:41 AM PDT by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated (Misunderestimated Again Bush/Cheney '04)
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