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indeed, it seems that most freepers won't be happy until every american has an $8/hr service job. I just do not understand what is wrong with these people.

It's simple. Most of them identify with multi-million dollar corporate executives and at the same time hate the great unwashed scum that comprise working Americans. The fact that most are unsuited for such positions by temperment, training or experience is irrelevent. They live vicariously through the corporate board room.

If we dilute that sector - the more people who move down the income scale, or who hold jobs where their compensation is provided in whole or in part by government (municipal workers, education, health care) - the more Democratic voters we create.

It won't matter in November. Bush will win on the terror issue alone. His lead, while not dominant, will prove to be insurmountable.

The dilution you speak of will have no effect come election day. But George W. Bush will effectively answer to no one come January 20, 2005. If and when the offshoring stampede picks up in earnest during a Bush lame-duck second term, it could very well pave the way for Hillary in '08 with an American version of the European cradle-to-grave socialism now in place in those countries.

"It's simple. Most of them identify with multi-million dollar corporate executives and at the same time hate the great unwashed scum that comprise working Americans."

Oh really!? And who are you, the pearl diver? So you think that we are all country club republicans, huh? We identify with multi-million dollar corporate executives and hate the great unwashed scum. (abuse report). Go away.

"If and when the offshoring stampede picks up in earnest during a Bush lame-duck second term, it could very well pave the way for Hillary in '08 with an American version of the European cradle-to-grave socialism now in place in those countries."

So in your simple mind the POTUS has everything to do with the outsourcing myth you and your minions have created. And you would save us all from cradle to grave socialism. Where did you come from and WHERE are you going? It can't be fast enough.

If and when the offshoring stampede picks up in earnest during a Bush lame-duck second term, it could very well pave the way for Hillary in '08 with an American version of the European cradle-to-grave socialism now in place in those countries.

Only one thing keeps Reagan Democrats and Evangelical Protestants from voting against Republicans - it is strange infatuation of liberals with pederasty, abortion and secularism. Once Dems discover what handicaps them and moderate their stand, they will stay in power for generations!