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West Virginia GOP Elector Robb's Vote May Not Go To Bush
Charleston Daily Mail ^ | September 8, 2004 | Chris Stirewalt

Posted on 09/08/2004 11:01:55 AM PDT by Bonaventure

South Charleston Mayor Richie Robb said today he may vote against George W. Bush in the Electoral College, even if the president carries West Virginia's popular vote.

Robb, long known as a maverick Republican, said he is considering using his position as one of the state's five Republican electors to protest what he believes are misguided policies of the current administration.

"It's not likely that I would vote for Kerry," Robb said. "But I'm looking at what my options are when it comes time to cast my vote."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: blackmailedbydems; bush; byrdsadouche; checkhisbankaccount; corruption; electoralcollege; extortionist; howmuchwasthepayoff; robb; westvirginia; whatsinhiscloset
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To: Bonaventure

When you lay with RINOs, you get screwed...


61 posted on 09/08/2004 11:46:43 AM PDT by Ogie Oglethorpe (The people have spoken...the b*stards!)
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To: Bonaventure
But state GOP Chairman Kris Warner was confident that Robb would come around.

How about ensuring that you don't have to worry about it? Seems like more than just this elector needs to go, the GOP Chairman doesn't sound like he's making himself worthy of the post.

What is up with these Republicans who promote political ass kissing over what's best for the party. The guy isn't even a Republican mayor, he's an independent. To top it off, the GOP selected all those who ran for governor.

Augh.
62 posted on 09/08/2004 11:47:18 AM PDT by kenth
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To: Bonaventure

My aunt lives in South Charleston and says she can't stand that RINO bastard.


63 posted on 09/08/2004 11:51:26 AM PDT by RockinRight (Vote early, vote often)
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To: Bonaventure
There is nothing unusual about "faithless electors" like this fellow -- in about 2 out of every 3 Presidential elections, one of the electors bolts and does something screwy. Happened in 2000 -- most of you probably didn't notice -- when a Democratic elector from DC declined to vote.

There is nothing that can be done legally to prevent an elector from voting their conscience -- it is constitutionally protected. Some of the states have legislation, I think, that attempt to guarantee the elector's decision but I don't think the legislation has ever been tested.

To the best of my knowledge, the best way to protect against "faithless electors" is to do what the parties have done since the beginning -- nominate only the fiercest partisans as electors.

64 posted on 09/08/2004 11:52:10 AM PDT by tom h
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To: comebacknewt
I think there is a pretty good chance that this election could end in a 269 - 269 tie. That means that if this guy goes through with his threat, it would swing the entire election to Kerry.

Most 269-269 tie scenarios have WV going to Jaques Kerry.

65 posted on 09/08/2004 11:53:58 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (If "W" stands for wrong, what does the "F" in John F Kerry stand for?)
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To: Bonaventure
Not sure how accurate this information is as it appears to be a bit dated. But...

List of Electors Bound by State Law and Pledges, As of November 2000

No Legal Requirement. Electors in these States are not bound by State Law to cast their vote for a specific candidate:

WEST VIRGINIA - 5 Electoral Votes

66 posted on 09/08/2004 11:54:07 AM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

It wouldn't be the first time that a state elector went "renegade" and failed to vote for the party's nominee. In 2000, this would have been a disaster. This year, I don't think it's going to be that close.


67 posted on 09/08/2004 12:03:06 PM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: bayourod
"the West Virginia Republican Party chose the top five runners-up from their gubernatorial primary to serve as electors."

BAYOUROD RESPONDED: "Totally irresponsible on the part of the W. Virginia Republican Party. I was involved on selecting electors for several elections and the most important consideration was loyalty to the candidate."

BAYOUROD ADDED: "A person could buy a delegate spot to the national convention but elector positions were not for sale at any price."

I agree. If the W. VA Republican actually did select Electors from the "top five runners-up from their gubernatorial primary," it really was irresponsible---and utterly stupid!

RATS often pretend to be Republicans, and run as Republicans. The only way they can get elected is if they fool the public into thinking they are Republicans.

As far as being able to "buy a delegate spot to the national convention," I have not heard of that, except to say that I understand you could donate money and go to the National Convention, but it would only be as an observer, not as a Delegate. I understand the Candidate, however, can choose people from each state to go (which I would think would be based purely on past loyalty and/or contributions).

As far as Electors are concerned, they are elected at the State Convention during the U.S. Congressional District Caucuses.

On 05 June 2004, my 23rd wedding anniversary and the day that Reagan died, I was elected to follow in my father's 52-year-old-Elector-legacy footsteps, becomming the Elector for my U.S. Congressional District. My father was a 1952 Eisenhower Elector, representing the same approximate area.

Although I was elected unanimously, I worked very hard to secure the votes I needed so that I could overcome the competition and make my dream become a reality.

68 posted on 09/08/2004 12:11:37 PM PDT by Concerned
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To: jsbankston
----Yes Pete, it is interesting that the same people who spoke about the genius of the Electoral College system when Bush won in 2000 while losing the popular vote will now go into hysterics if an Elector does not vote the same way as his state.----

Don't start using DU logic. Unless you can show that conservatives in 2000 were urging Gore electors to vote against the respective wills of their own states, your comparison is mindless.

-Dan
69 posted on 09/08/2004 12:12:30 PM PDT by Flux Capacitor (ZELL MILLER IN '08.)
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To: Bonaventure

And who is the other Republican they like to call a "maverick" when he comes out against the President? ............


70 posted on 09/08/2004 12:13:26 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: bhlewis

I would not bet the farm on it.

In fact, I would bet that he does indeed vote for John Kerry.


71 posted on 09/08/2004 12:16:37 PM PDT by sport
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To: Bonaventure

Making a long story short, there are a few likely scenarios (all iinvolving W.VA.)where we could wind up with a 269-269 tie in the electoral college-in which case it goes to congress where Dubya wins. I's hate to see it come down to this guy's vote.


72 posted on 09/08/2004 12:18:37 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Only Arnold would have the stones to say Nixon was the reason he was a Republican.)
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To: kalt

Ping


73 posted on 09/08/2004 12:19:57 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Flux Capacitor

Hang on! Read the rest of my posts. My only point was that Constitutionally the Electors are not Bound to vote for the same person or party that their constituents voted for.


74 posted on 09/08/2004 12:23:22 PM PDT by jsbankston
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To: Pete

Yup. Youre exactly right. That is the way it works. It would be highly unorthodox for an electoral college member to go against the voice of his state. Back in the late 18th or early 19th century that would probably end up with him wearing tar and feathers if not a piece of hemp rope.


75 posted on 09/08/2004 12:27:59 PM PDT by ChinaThreat
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To: Bonaventure

Someone make him an offer. This dude is for sale.


76 posted on 09/08/2004 12:30:27 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Paul Atreides
I have to wonder if this is his way of getting attention.

My thoughts exactly.

77 posted on 09/08/2004 12:30:54 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: gunnygail; Eric in the Ozarks; sport; Ogie Oglethorpe; Darlin'; ambrose; MinuteGal; Eva; ...
Lothar:

I am Lothar...OF THE HILL PEOPLE! I no like this recreant elector. I club him with big branch. He fall. So sez Lothar...OF THE HILL PEOPLE!

LOTHAR...of the Hill People.

78 posted on 09/08/2004 12:33:00 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid (This tag-line paid for by "Friends of Paul Rodriguez.")
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To: bhlewis
They send the electors a while after the actual election. If his vote matters he won't do something that stupid, but if it doesn't he might do a protest vote.

He is making noise now while it is safe. He would never make the protest vote, whether it mattered or not. It would be a career ender.

79 posted on 09/08/2004 12:36:43 PM PDT by CMAC51
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To: RandallFlagg
Is this legal?

Yes. The Founding Fathers did not completely trust the electorate.

80 posted on 09/08/2004 12:37:29 PM PDT by demlosers (55 days left until the Kerry campaign is put out of its misery.)
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